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Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/30/2004 4:44:40 PM  2 votes
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What a bitch. Why dont you go cry a little more (no pun intended) you big baby. He's been ducking Bertuzzi's appologies since the incident 3 weeks ago. Fare enough, hold a grudge, but the big man was sincere in his appology. What else do you want the man to do, wipe your handicaped ass when you take a dump? What a bitch.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/30/2004 4:51:22 PM   
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whoa...

I somewhat agree with you.. but hmm not in those words.. :o)


But then again, it looks like a good tactic right now to use against the Canucks.

There still isnt an official report on his injuries. You got the best spinal doctors in the U.S. And not one has given a formal report.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/30/2004 10:48:15 PM  1 votes
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I can't believe someone is taking stars away from me on a post in "Out of Bounds". Isnt this a forum where anything goes. The fact that I think the guys a bitch shouldnt cost me my credibilty on this forum. Whoever did that, you're a bitch! Especially when you're not man enough to leave your own opinion. I bet you never even saw the press conference. Sorry if I hurt your virgin ears. I'll try to keep "my" opinions to myself in the future. Phhht.. bitch

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/30/2004 11:37:29 PM   
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God damn Mike...

Burtuzzi's apology was NOT sincere, you are just a fan of his, and you cannot see ANYTHING from ANYONE elses point of view.

He broke his FREAKIN NECK!!! I would'nt apologize to him either, burtizzi is the bitch, not moore.

It is his first press conference since the incident, what the hell do you want? Why the hell should Moore forgive him?

"Gee, even though you were a pussy and attacked me from behind, broke me neck, and ended my career, that is ok, all is forgiven"

NO! Mike, you are NEVER going to get it!! What do you want Moore to do, WALK IT OFF???

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 1:36:56 AM  1 votes
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Hehehe... I love it!!

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 7:38:43 AM   
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Isnt this a forum where anything goes.


Within reason. If you have the freedom to post this stuff.. regardless of it's for Howard Stern flair or you believe it. You have a right to speak your mind within reason (meaning not stepping out of bounds and attacking) then a person has the right to disagree and ding you stars.

Just as much as I've seen some of your posts and given you 2 for the post.

Luckily working in IT, if somebody hit me from behind and took me out because I installed a Windows 2003 Server wrong... I'd have a good lawsuit. I guess I'm glad I'm in a career that violence isn't usually part of the 8 hour day.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 7:58:16 AM   
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Mike,

In order to refrain from "personal attacks", I will make this as diplomatic as possible.

I find your constant defense of Bertuzzi and attacks on Moore to be distateful, and I question your moral reasoning on the subject. You remind me of some fans of Kobe Bryant who persist in calling his (alleged) victim names.

Since there is no point in trying to chage your attitude on the subject, I'm not going waste any more keystrokes.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 8:42:42 AM   
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Jesus H...

Mike look, I'm sure I'm not out of line when saying this but...


All your doing, keeping on this subject, is showing more and more of your ignorance. Look, we get it, you like him and that influences your views. WE'RE NOT GOING TO FEEL THE SAME WAY! Jesus, drop it ok!? Continual displays of ignorance is NOT a way to show what you know. Just STFU and quit talking about this subject.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 9:07:05 AM   
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Pappy, that was a great post! Smile

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 2:25:22 PM  1 votes
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Wow... I've got some haters in here. The point isn't that I'm a Bertuzzi fan. Obviously that plays a roll and I'm glad you guys are keen enough to pick up on that. I simply can't believe the fact that Moore is playing to the hart strings of the public like that. He told the media, exactly what they needed to hear in order to put out the big headlines in the next days paper. The fact that the press conference was planned at the last minute on the day of an important Canucks game seems a little more than a coincidence. The Canucks coming off a 2 game winning streak were 1 point back of the lagging Avalanche and all of a sudden Steve Moore feels up to a press conference. There no doubt in my mind that Moore and his team knew exactly what they were doing when they tried to play the guilt card on the Canucks. Is that poor form or underhanded, yes. But I'm sure any team in the NHL would have used the same tactics. Did Moore mean everything he said in his press conference. Probably not. I'm sure he twisted his words to make the Canucks feel that much more guilty about the situation. Let's face it, Moore, no matter what his situation, is still apart of the Avalanche and will do what it takes to help them win. But publicly ducking an appoligy is something you'd expect from a kid in elementary school, not a professional athlete.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 3:37:45 PM   
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But publicly ducking an appoligy is something you'd expect from a kid in elementary school, not a professional athlete.

Mike,

I'm chiming in here once and then I'm out. Exactly why does Moore HAVE to accept, or even recognize, Bertuzzi's appology?

1) Fact: Moore was sucker punched with no chance to defend himself.
2) Fact: Moore was knocked unconscious and was unable to brace his fall.
3) Fact: Bertuzzi rode Moore down to the ice and either purposely or accidentally caused Moore's forehead to drive into the ice.
4) Conjecture: This is the most likely cause of Moore's fractured vertebrae.
5) Fact: Moore is now facing a DRAMATICALLY increased risk of paralysis. This is due to the fact that the 2 vertebrae will NEVER be as strong as they were before the injury. No one can quantify this increased risk, but unlike a broken arm or leg, if those vertebra fracture again, Moore could suffer paralysis or even death.
5) Educated Conjecture: Moore is more than likely done as a professional hockey player. He MAY play again but the odds are dramatically against it.
6) Educated Conjecture: Moore is 25 years old and was looking at a career that would at least last another 5-7 years and will lose a significant income if he never plays again.

Now given those items, explain to me WHY Moore is required to accept Bertuzzi's appology? Sure it could be perceived by some as a classy move or an insincere acceptance. But would you? Especially considering the short time that has passed since the injury and that Moore probably has no certain idea if he will ever play again?

It boils down to this Mike: Others have pointed out that you seem to be reacting emotionally on this issue and that no opposing point of view or opinion is valid.

Paul

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 4:01:35 PM  1 votes
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Hockey sucks anyways.

I'm done with this conversation now.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 3/31/2004 8:23:02 PM   
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But publicly ducking an apology is something you'd expect from a kid in elementary school, not a professional athlete.


Taking somebody out from behind and possibly ending their career and then later crying on TV...

Is something I expect from a thug on his way to prison not a professional.

Where's the rule that says the guy has to accept an apology? He doesn't. Maybe he just thinks.. God I hate this guy.. and I don't really want to accept his apology.

Mike Tyson apologized for nothing. And he's a pro too right?

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/1/2004 7:34:39 AM  1 votes
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Hockey sucks anyways.


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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/1/2004 8:05:41 AM  2 votes
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Oh sweet Christ on a Stick!

Man, none of us are haters, we just want to see you Can this whole topic and bury it beneath 2000 feet of concrete...Hoffa style, ok?!

I'm now officially ignoring anything associated with Mike0017 and Hockey!

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/1/2004 12:40:02 PM  1 votes
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Its poor form is all I'm saying. It takes a big man to forgive and forget. It doesnt take any kind of man to hold a grudge. Someone said he's 25. Thats a good point because he obviously hasnt been in the league long enough to know the natural flow of these cases.

Cheap shot on star player
Redemption on the ice
Get on with life

You know, if Moore had appoligized for his hit on Naslund, I dont think any of this would have happened. Instead, the Colorado team passed it off as if it was nothing, further escalating the problem. I also know for a fact that Naslund would have taken his appoligy in stride and called off the firing squad.

Moore is only snowballing this incident by allowing it to drag on and it's doing nothing for hockey. It was obviously a bad mark on hockey's growing rap sheet, but theres no reason to prolongue this any further. In my opinion, Moore is simply enjoying his 15 minutes of fame, because his hockey career wasnt going to take him there! And I can guarantee you he wont get there if keeps up this attitude.

He said several times in his press conference that he was being optimistic. If he's so optimistic, why is he doubting his comeback into the National Hockey League. Players have come back from far more adverse situtions than a 3 month neck brace. If Moore ever wants to play again, he will. But don't play it out like he can't bounce back from this.

Once again, it was poor form!

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/1/2004 12:42:46 PM  1 votes
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PS The Canucks passed the Avalanche in the standings last night and are now in first place in their division!

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/5/2004 5:18:54 PM  1 votes
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Hey, I'm finally back up to 14 stars after being gouged for expressing my opinion (and one that a lot of people in Vancouver also share). It sucks though cuz I still dont know who did that.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/5/2004 5:27:12 PM  1 votes
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The last star on this topic really should be taken away...not deserving....unless it was given because of the backlash unleashed on you....if that's the case, then it should be bumped up 5 stars...


Hey I have an idea....look up this topic in say....5 years....and you can see what we all see in your views....and you can laugh at the same idiotic views that we're laughing at right now. I say that because at your age, I had some views (though no where near the Ridiculous views you have with this topic) that seemed stupid now but didnt' then.

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RE: Steve Moore Press Conference - 4/5/2004 5:53:55 PM   
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No... I've thought this one through. If I think this way now, I'll still have the same opinion 5 years from now. You see, I've heard all the reports, read all the papers and seen all the press conferences and news coverage. This isnt an uneducated decision. I truely believe he's a bitch. The media is playing to the ear of the general public (who base their opinion on the media) so I can't expect anyone who hasn't done any extra homework on the subject to agree with me. I'm sure if the media was permitted to, they would be singing a different tune, however, that tune is not good for ratings.

Theres only one person on television I trust to give his full honest opinion and thats Nick Kypreos. A former hockey player turned hockey analyst for Sportsnet. If you ever get a chance to listen to this man, please do with an open mind because he is one of the smartest men in hockey.

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