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Starting To Lift - 6/10/2004 6:01:13 PM   
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I am going to start to lift this Monday. I am buying a weight bench and weights this weekend. I plan on getting this benchand this set of weights I am also going to be following a "work-out plan" I got out of a book called Get Strong, By: Jake Steinfeld .

Do any of you guys know a good diet to follow that will help me loose weight and still gain muscle?Smile

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/10/2004 6:16:16 PM   
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Just watch your Fat &Carb intake and do cardio.And eat at least 6 small meals
a day. And take in 1 gram of protein per: body pound.



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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/10/2004 8:11:02 PM   
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Do any of you guys know a good diet to follow that will help me loose weight and still gain muscle?



Im not sure but didnt we have a thread about, losing fat and gaining muscle at the same time isnt possible?

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/10/2004 8:20:29 PM   
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It's possible. I think the general consensus in the BBing world is that it is not the most efficient way to go about either.

But newbies and people with good genetics can do both at the same time. (Still haven't figured out which one I am, hoping for #2 Smile)

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/12/2004 4:50:39 PM   
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Do any of you guys know a good diet to follow that will help me loose weight and still gain muscle?Smile

I meant a way to gain muscle and loose fat, my mistakeSmile

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/12/2004 7:07:31 PM   
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No, we knew what you meant- It's just hard to gain muscle and lose fat at the same time. In order to build muscle, you have to eat a lot of calories every day- And even though you should be eating healthy, clean food, your body will still store some as fat while you pack on the muscle. When you try to lose fat, you basically have to put your body into a calorie deficit- Give it less calories than it needs to maintain your current weight, and it will start to burn the fat as fuel. When you're in a calorie deficit, it's really hard to gain muscle, since you're taking away the building blocks of the muscle itself.
Other than that, the weight bench looks decent- I know you were looking for something that was both affordable and didn't take up too much space. You'll get your money's worth out of it. The weights look nice too- You'll have to let us know what sort of routine that book has you doing.

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/12/2004 7:22:07 PM   
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looks like a really old paperback

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/12/2004 8:14:20 PM   
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Here is the plan for for

Monday And Thursday:

Abdominals

2 trisets of 15reps of Crossover Bicycle + Reverse Chrunch + Long Arm Crunch

Lower Back

2 bisets of 5 reps of Straight-Leg Lift + Upper Torso Lift

Chest
Flat Bench Press of 3sets of 10reps of 70lbs

Biceps
Standing Barbell Curl of 2sets of 10reps of 45lbs

It is still incomplete becuase I have yet to by dumbellsSmile.. I ended up getting a different bar... a Olyimpic one that came with 300lbs for $129Smile but I didn't come with the dumbellsSmile...

I will post Tuesday and Friday's Plan tommorow...

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 11:09:14 AM   
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Chest
Flat Bench Press of 3sets of 10reps of 70lbs


is it already telling you how much weight you should do.. or did you adjust it?

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 11:30:12 AM   
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no I adjusted it

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 3:46:52 PM   
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benching 70lbs seems a little too light, whats your max ?

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 6:16:14 PM   
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currently my max is 110lbs

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 6:24:04 PM   
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Here is the plan for for

Monday And Thursday:

Abdominals

2 trisets of 15reps of Crossover Bicycle + Reverse Chrunch + Long Arm Crunch

Lower Back

2 bisets of 5 reps of Straight-Leg Lift + Upper Torso Lift

Chest
Flat Bench Press of 3sets of 10reps of 70lbs

Biceps
Standing Barbell Curl of 2sets of 10reps of 45lbs

It is still incomplete becuase I have yet to by dumbellsSmile.. I ended up getting a different bar... a Olyimpic one that came with 300lbs for $129Smile but I didn't come with the dumbellsSmile...

Instead of doing this I think I am going to make a plan from scratch and workout 4-6 days a week...
Monday: Back and Abs
Tuesday: Shoulders
Wensday: Cardio (HIIT)
Thursday: Legs
Friday: Chest
Saturday: Cardio

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/13/2004 7:12:07 PM   
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what happened to biceps, triceps, traps.......

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 12:55:49 PM   
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Should I do those all in one day? Or should Biceps be with Legs and Triceps with Back and Traps with HIIT???

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 1:08:53 PM   
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Traps should probably be with shoulders or back. Some people do back/bis and chest/tris, while some do bis and tris together (which would put you at a 5 day split).

Also, I wanted to point out that Straight Leg Deadlifts are more of a hamstring exercise, while regular Deadlift work the lower back, glutes, etc.

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 2:42:56 PM   
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Personally, I always advise against triceps and chest, and biceps and back being done together. Tris and pecs are both used during bench presses, so your tris will be a little weaker when you go to work them, and vice versa- The same thing goes for back and bis. Try doing chest on Tuesday, legs and shoulders on Thursday, and biceps and triceps on Friday.

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 6:39:06 PM   
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So this woulld be better...

Monday: Back and Abs
Tuesday: Chest
Wensday: Cardio~~~ HIIT and Traps
Thursday: Legs and Shoulders
Friday: Biceps and triceps
Saturday: Cardio~~~ HIIT

How many exercises should I do for each group... 10 to 15? or do less exercises and more reps?

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 8:00:59 PM   
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what happened to "Get Strong, By: Jake Steinfeld"

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RE: Starting To Lift - 6/14/2004 8:44:47 PM   
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i think its a better idea to workout at the gym until you totally find out that working out is the thing for you... especially cause you're going in with so much energy... its people that dive in that like 5 days a week that are more likely to quit when they don't see results than those that start slow.
so i really think it be a better idea if you tried a gym out, you will not have to spend so much money on equipment, you will have a better idea of what equipment to buy, and how to use it, especially because you will have a spotter, he can help you with form and save you if you die out...after all you are just starting out..

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