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Starting Over - Saturday, April 04, 2009 3:03 PM ( #1 )
I have been gone some while and had 6 different workout journals.. anyway, read this and maybe it will explain a lottle.
 
 
So, I ordered some RPN Havoc, and I have used 3-AD in the past, so I know a little bit about legal PH's.
 
Planning - 8 Week Cycle
 
Havoc Weeks
 
1: 20mg
2: 30mg
3: 40mg
4: 50mg
 
PCT (Gaspari's Novedex XT) Weeks
 
1: 4 Caps
2: 2 Caps
3: 2 Caps
4: 1 Cap
 
Support Supplements while on cycle and post cycle:
 
Anabolic Innovations Cycle Support (Liver and Prostrate Health)
Fish Oil
BCAAS
Sumperpump250
SizeON
Multivitamin
Glucosamine & Chondroitin
Whey Protein (ON 100% Whey)
 
I have read in places an OTC PCT will work. Novedex is simply a great booster and AI, which should make everything normal again plus the tapering down should completely deny gyno.
 
Havoc/Epistane doesn't cause gyno anyway, but just to be safe. A lot of people are doing OTC and ending a great cycle; others are using a SERM because I suppose that's their safety safe.
 
Now, with that being said, someone has to wonder about the diet. First let me explain that in the past 4 months I have been at the forums and away from the forums is because the diet part was kicking my training efforts in the ass.
 
In the "off season" my dumbass ate everything in sight, no nutrient timing, no consideration of wtf I was doing, skipping cardio all because I thought "hey, 3-AD will keep everything ok." Wrong. No magic pill, I wish I would have listened back in the winter.
 
Warm weather started kicking in and I realized.. that I was a strong fat ass Once again, my ignorance in dieting led me astray. So, I did what I always do. I go into carbaphobic mode and take fat burners so my calories were pathetic as were my macros. How to fix? Ha! Pro hormones. So once again, I used 3-AD. I saw no results.. Then I got desperate right after spring break. I attempted the Velocity Diet while being on Slim Xtreme by AX. Big mistake number 2. Finally, in the past three weeks, I started reading, writing and researching.. No longer scared of carbs or fat or too less protein..
 
Carb Cycling
 
My calories switch day to day from higher to lower to moderate, however you want to look at it. Either way, I don't think as most people would; energy in vs energy out. I think of it as targeting your muscles with nutrition.
 
High Carb Days
 
255g Protein
263Carbs
38g Fat
 
Moderate Carb Days
 
255g Protein
210g Carbs
38g Fat
 
Low Carb Days
 
255g Protein
158g Carbs
38g Fat
 
Always 6 Meals per day
 
My carb meals will be ingested in 3 meals. Morning always, post workout, and 90 minutes post workout.
 
On training days, 50% of my carbohydrates will be ingested immediately post work out. The other two 25% percents are breakfast and 90 minutes after the training.
 
On non training days (Low Carb Days) all carbs will be low GI and complex. Most (75%) will be consumed in the morning and the other two meals will be early in the day.
 
 My other three meals will consist of an acceptable protein and fat source. Protein Will be divided equally into six meals. Fat is divided into the three meals that do not include carbs. Easy.
 
After I lift, I will consume BCAAs, then move into cardio. After cardio I will consume ON 100% Whey and SizeON. I was considering possibly mixing SizeOn with orange juice for an ass ton of simple sugars.
 
Hope you are still following. :)
 
The Training
 
TC from T-Nation created a push Pull Program. I once designed a push pull and I absolutely LOVED it.
 
Monday - Heavy Pull; High Carb
Tuesday - Off; Low Carb (I have to work and go to school)
Wednesday - Heavy Push; High Carb
Thursday - Off; Low Carb (Work/school)
Friday - Moderate Pull; Moderate Carb
Saturday - Moderate Push; Moderate Carb
Sunday - Off; Low Carb
 
And the routine looks something like this
 
Heavy Pull:
 
A1. Deadlift 8x3
A2. DB Support Curl 8x3
B1. Weighted Pull Ups 8 x 3
B2. SL Deadlift 8 x 3
C. Weighted crunch 4 x 10
 
Cardio: Racquetball 30 - 45 Minutes
 
Heavy Push
 
A1. Front Squat 8 x 3      
A2. Smith Machine Veragoni Bench Press 8 x 3
B1. Over-head Press 8 x 3
B2. Weighted dips 8 x 3
C. Leg Press Calf Extension 5 x 10
 
Cardio - Racquetball 30 - 45 minutes
 
Moderate Pull
 
A1. Romanian DL 4 x 6
A2. EZ Bar Curl 4 x 6
B1. BB Row 4 x 6
B2. Leg Curl 4 x 6
C. DB Shrug 4 x 6
D. Rear Delt Flye 4 x 6
E. Crunch Variation 5 x 10
 
Cardio
Racquetball 30 - 45Minutes
 
Moderate Push
 
A. Leg Press 4 x 6
B1. Sissy Squat 4 x 6
B2. Dumbell Floor Press 4 x 6
C1. DB Flye 4 x 6
C2. Tricep Extension 4 x 6
D1. DB Lateral Raise 4 x 6
D2. BB Shrug 4 x 6
E. Calf Extension 5 x 10
 
Cardio
Racquetball 60 - 90 Minutes
 
__________________________________________________________________________
 
I am a racquetball junkie. :) Also, Slim Xtreme is a great stimulant; however, the mood effects make me depressed, so I am dropping the fat burner all together. I think my metabolism will be fine on its own.
 
I apologize for a 15 Book poem of a post, but this is how to explain my goal.
 
I hope for this to give me a total recomp so I can begin carb cycling for a bulk in late August.
 
18 Years Old
3+ Years Experience
175 lb
5'9"
Chest: 42"
Waist: 33"
Bicep: 15.5"
Quadricep: 24"
Calf: 14.75"
 
So, I need to get this tuned perfect and need help. Discuss with me?
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Re:Starting Over - Saturday, April 04, 2009 9:13 PM ( #2 )
Low Carb Day

Meals

1: Cytogainer with oatmeal and a cup of strawberries blended.

2: 8 Turkey Slices, 2 Yams

3: 4oz Chicken Breast, 1 Yam

4: 7 Turkey slices, 2 Scoops Isopure Whey

5: Hamburger Patty

6: 2 Tilapia Filets, 4g Fish Oil

Total : 1985 Calories; 37g Fat; 158 Carbs; 255g Protein


Moderate Carb Day

1: 2 Scoops ON 100% Whey, 1/2 Cup Strawberries, Oatmeal - Blended

2: 5 Egg Whites, 7 Turkey Slices, 6g Fish Oil

3: Lean Ham Portion, 6g Fish Oil

4: Pre Workout: Superpum250; 2 Scoops ON 100% Whey
 (BCAAs consumed after lifting)
5: Post Workout: SizeOn mixed with 24oz Natural Orange Juice; Whey

6: Filet Mahi Mahi, Filet Tilapia; 3 yams.

Totals: 2169 Calories, 33g Fat; 255g Protein; 213 Carbs

High Carb Day

1: Cytogainer

2: 8 Turkey Slices; 2 fish oil

3: 2 cans of Tuna with 2 tblspn mayonnaise

4: Pre W/O - 2 Scoops Isopure; Superpump 250
 (BCAAs taken before, after lifting, and after cardio)
5: Post W/O - SizeOn mixed in 32oz Natural Orange Juice; Whey

6: Mahi Mahi filet, 5 egg whites, 1/2 cup cottage cheese, 3 yams

Totals: 2453 Calories; 38g Fat; 267 Carbs; 262 Protein

this will ultimately be what I live off of for the next two months.

Why so much fish, yams, and deli meat? It's all my family buys that is worth it, so I make it happen with what I got.

Oh, I will be supplementing BCAAs like candy. Morning,  Pre, Post, Before Bed, etc.

Multi etc.. see above post.

Some feedback before tomorrow or monday would be awesome.
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Pics, Low Carb #1 - Sunday, April 05, 2009 10:08 AM ( #3 )
 
So this is day one. It's a low carb day. My diet looks exactly like the above. 
http://img3.imageshack.us/img3/2259/s5030145a.jpg
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Here are some beginning progress pictures. This is a 2 week cut coming out off March. I was a major fat ass in the winter, and apparently gained way more fat than I thought. So, dirty bulking = for the birds.
 
I assume that the Havoc cycle isnt a bad idea, so I will begin when the stuff gets here.
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heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 06, 2009 2:15 PM ( #4 )
okay so.. the gym was death today.

Heavy Pull


Deadlift

135 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3
225 x 3

super set with

ez bar curl

65 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3
85 x 3

Straight Leg Dead Lift

185 x 3
185 x 3
205 x 3
205 x 3
205 x 3
185 x 3
135 x 6

super set with

Pull Ups

8 Sets of 3, 3 of the sets +20lb Dumbell

Serratus Crunch

4 x 8 (+25lb Plate)

This doesn't look that hard.. but oh wow.

40 Minutes Racquetball
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Diet Today: High Carb

My diet has been to the t today except I forgot my protein shake pre workout, but I got the superpump250 in thank the lord. now off to dinner.

my havoc hasn't come in yet.. ugh.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 06, 2009 2:48 PM ( #5 )
Hope your cycle goes well. I found havoc to be really mild, probably wish I'd ran it for 6 weeks instead of 5 though.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 06, 2009 4:16 PM ( #6 )
Thanks man. I suppose you will be checking in?

I bought some Cytocarb II today, so now I have a better option PWO than orange juice. It's complex carbohydrate from maltodextrin.

I am going to use this..

Weeks
1: 20mg
2: 30mg
3: 30mg
4: 30mg

for Havoc to see how it goes.

until tomorrow.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Tuesday, April 07, 2009 5:52 PM ( #7 )
Low Carb Day

Uhm, felt full all day long really.. Havoc didn't come in.. Thought about quitting. Oh well. Just another day.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Tuesday, April 07, 2009 7:19 PM ( #8 )
Yeah I be checking in - Have you tried the cycle support? It's a great product but I think I got a nasty batch. Tastes like musty cum.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Wednesday, April 08, 2009 2:45 PM ( #9 )
My Cycle Support tastes like vomit. Like disgusting ass vomit. But hey.. it works.

Havoc came in. I am just doing 10mg for today. Someone in the supplement forum said Novedex wasn't enough. But I mean isn't tamoxifen stupid for this kind of ph anyhow? A basically non androgenic/dominantly anabolic PS followed by a SERM.. I just don't think it's logical. It seems that that would set up delayed gyno. Or maybe I'm too ignorant?

Workout was intense but I forgot triceps.. I dunno how. Whatever.

Incline Bench Press
135 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
155 x 3
DB Flat Press
60 x 3
70 x 3
70 x 3
70 x 3

DB Miltary Press

40 x 3
50 x 3
50 x 3
50 x 3
50 x 3
50 x 3
60 x 2 = fail.. ugh
40 x 3

Front Squat

135 x 3
145 x 3
165 x 3
185 x 3
135 x 3
135 x 3.. Got lazy and stopped. My form was dog **** anyhow.

Calve Press

405 x 12
405 x 12
405 x 12

Racquet ball = 25-30 minutes.

Yeah. I don't like this high set low rep garbage. I'm changing up to 4 x 5-8 on everything.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Wednesday, April 08, 2009 6:49 PM ( #10 )
I had a mirror evaluation recently. Looks like I have definitely lost about 1% bodyfat. My oblique V shape is starting to show and I am fitting into older pants with relative ease.

I then measured my muscular girth and as of yet, everything has stayed the same, except the waist obviously.

I am weighing in at 171 tonight, so I'd say 160-165 is my sweet spot, but definitely too damn skinny. I think this carb cycling will only be needed around six weeks. The first whole week was basically today and I am impressed. I will have one cheat meal tomorrow. :)

As far as Havoc goes, I will be pulsing the dosage.

I will take it 3 times per week. (Wednesday, Friday, Sunday)

1: 10mg, 20mg, 30mg
2 - 8: 40mg

This will eliminate basically all side effect worries, and Novedex XT should be more than sufficient for PCT.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Friday, April 10, 2009 10:46 AM ( #11 )
Yesterday I cheated a little bit, which was mentally motivating.

Today I had a moderate Pull Day

BB Corner Row

90 x 8
135 x 8
185 x 6
210 x 6

Rear Delt Fly (DB's)

30 x 8
30 x 8
35 x 8
40 x 8

(4-0-4 Tempo) Bicep Machine Preacher Curl

55 x 8
60 x 8
65 x 8
45 x 12 (6-0-6)

Romanian Deadlift (Easy Weight)

135 x 6
135 x 6
185 x 6

SL Deadlift (Easy Weight)

135 x 6
135 x 6
185 x 6

Knee Pull Ins

3 Sets of 8

Racquetball 30-40 minutes

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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Saturday, April 11, 2009 9:03 PM ( #12 )
Weighed in this morning at 173, but leaner OMG. Yeah, my waist is around a 32.5" now. So, I am doing something right.
 
today I did a moderate Push.. Kind of late on logging. 40 Minutes of racquetball. Walked at the park a while later..

Anyhow, pumps were good. I felt huge.

Havoc sides so far aren't there. I am extremely sex-driven, though. I dosed 40mg today.

I also had a cheat meal.. Some mexican and ice cream turned into gorge fest '09. I'm bloated but damn I feel good.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Sunday, April 12, 2009 5:03 PM ( #13 )
Well, I ate virtually no carbs today.

I went for a 1.25 mile walk in the park with my little sister, other than that DOMs is kicking my ass, so I took it easy.

Havoc sides so far; obviously DOMs. No cramps or pumps. Popping random woodies left and right. That garbage is annoying. Oh, and my pubertal gyno has been about 85% eradicated. I love this Havoc.

I have been aggressive here lately. I have been more prone to arguments and hands on activities involving violence; either way I'm doing ok.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 13, 2009 2:27 PM ( #14 )
Okay so heavy pull day..

                             Heavy Pull

DB Row
50 x 8
70 x 6
90 x 6
90 x 6

Pull Ups
4 Sets of 8

EZ Bar Curls
35 x 12
55 x 8
75 x 6
95 x 3 SUPERSET 35 x 8

Seated Cable Row
160 x 6
190 x 6
210 x 5
140 x 8

Leg Curl
90 x 6
120 x 6
120 x 6
70 x 12

Deadlift
135 x 8
225 x 6
315 x 2 = Easy but whew.
365 Failed; Managed to get 1/4 up.
250 Failed; Managed to get 1/2 up.
225 x 5

Ab Work

Racquetball 20 Minutes; Steady state walking 20 minutes.

Havoc so far has only gotten me aggressive.. I am though 100% suffering from DOMs. Jesus H. tap dancin' Christ. Soreness will not work out. It's beginning to get extremely annoying. Lethargic. Popping woodies left and right in school. But, I will not be taking it again until Wednesday so, should be all good.

On the up side, I was feeling very beastly today, amazing pumps and getting stronger slowly. Last week 315 on the Deadlift wasn't there at all, so yeah.

Diet today

#1: Cytogainer

#2: Deli Turkey, Cheese Stick

#3: Can of Tuna

#4: Whey + CytoCarb

#5: Tilapia, 2 yams, cup of cottage cheese

Probably two more weeks of this shizzzz and I will be at 8% bodyfat. I am at about 10% right now.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Tuesday, April 14, 2009 5:37 PM ( #15 )
Today was pretty smooth. Dosed 40mg. Definitely feeling and looking different. Waist is 32" now and I weighedi n at 172 today.My chest is perky.. it's odd.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Wednesday, April 15, 2009 1:36 PM ( #16 )
I changed up my routine. I am going to start a Max OT type program with a taste of west side.

Chest/Triceps

Flat BB Bench Press

(Speed Set) 135 x 6 (Warm Up)
165 x 6
185 x 6
205 x 6
(Strength Set) 235 x 1

Incline DB Fly

40 x 6
45 x 6
50 x 6

Smith Machine Incline Bench Press

135 x 6
165 x 6
185 x 6

Close Grip Bench

95 x 6
115 x 6 (Exhausted)

Overhead Machine Extensions

140 x 6
175 x 6

Overhead Dumbell Extensions

50 x 6
50 x 6

Dips

2 Sets of 5

That adds up to 9 Sets  of 4-6 Reps for Chest; 8 Sets of 4-6 for Triceps

10 Minutes stationary bike.

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I am going to begin clean bulking until about the beginning of June to see how my muscle:fat ratio stands.

I gorged today; fxckin hungry as hell. Havoc made me do it. :)
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Aaron's Log - Thursday, April 16, 2009 5:24 PM ( #17 )
no training today.. rest.

sore as hell from yesterday.

tomorrow is legs.

my diet today wassssssssss...

#1: Cytogainer
#2: ON Whey, assload of trail mix, cheese stick
#3: Cottage Cheese, whole wheat roast beef with mustard, almonds and berries, 16oz milk, half of a baked potato (plain)
#4: 5 eggs, cottage cheese
#5: Whey + Isopure + Cycle Support, Cheese Stick, cashews
#6: 3 Eggs

Thats about it.. Adds up to 3000-3500 calories, lots of carbs, lots lots of protein and a great amount of fat. I feel good. I actually look leaner also.. which is odd.
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Re:Aaron's Log - Friday, April 17, 2009 2:52 PM ( #18 )
uhm so today was pretty hellish in training. ME squats are ridiculous, to say the least.
 
Leg Day
Total Training Time: 53 Minutes
 
ME Box Squats (60-90 Second Rests)
 
135 x 10 (Warm Up)
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 1
then exhaustion set in..
295 x 1
295 x fail and stuck on the box; had to bail out
275 x 1
275 x 1
 
My entire body didn't feel pumped or jacked.. just ****in' destroyed. My "swole" ego was shot after this.
 
Leg Extensions
 
130 x 6
190 x 6
240 x 6
 
Leg Curl
 
110 x 6
120 x 6
120 x 6
 
Leg Press Calf Extension
 
225 x 10; 10 Second hold
315 x 10; 8 Second Hold
405 x 10; 5 Seconds Hold
 
Smith Machine Squats
 
225 x 6
225 x 6
Front Squat; 135 x 8
 
Suspended Weighted Knee Pull Ups (35lb DB)
8
6
6
 
Weighted Crunches (45lb. DB)
8
8
8
 
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Diet has been like 75% clean today.. I did cheat just a few minutes ago, but to hell with it, whats it going to hurt.
 
#1: 3/4 Serving Cytogainer + Oats + Strawberries + Blueberries
#2: Cheese stick, cashews, trail mix, and ON 100% Whey
#3: Roast beef on whole wheat with mustard; cup of cottage cheese; spinach; whole tomato; grapes; 16oz milk
#4: The rest of meal #1 + BCAAs
#5: Whey + Cytocarb and Sizeon + BCAAs
#6: Beef jerky and some ice crizzle :) hey, its carbs and protein; virtually no fat.
#7: big ass burger and a tea. oops.
 
That adds up to about 3,000 clean calories; 700 dirty calories. I went a little over today, but the Havoc and raped body needs the food at this point.
 
I can tell this max ot/west side **** is going to get me stronger than piss.
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Re:Aaron's Log - Monday, April 20, 2009 2:44 PM ( #19 )
Personal Record

Today was an amazing day in the gym. I broke a PR of my deadlift being 340. It's 345lb now. The old 340lb was with straps. I hit 345 with nothing but chalk.

Deadlift
135 x 5
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 1
325 x 1
335 x 1
340 x 1
345 x 1
350 x 0 (exhaustion)

Barbell Curls

65 x 8
85 x 6
95 x 4

EZ Curl Barbell Curls

55 x 6
65 x 6
65 x 6 Wide grip

this = pump.

Barbell Row

135 x 8
180 x 6
205 x 6
225 x 6

Pull Down

160 x 6
Close Grip 170 x 6
Widest Grip pump set 130 x 12

Seated Cable Row

160 x 6
200 x 6
220 x 6 (220 is the whole rack.)
90 x 12 into a one arm 90 x 5 on each arm superset.

Ab and Oblique work

No cardio today. Dead tired from deadlifts. Shew lord.

Diet

#1: Cytogainer
#2: 5 Boiled Eggs, Whey, Cheese Stick
#3: 2 Cans Tuna, 2 Eggs, 16oz Chocolate Milk
During W/O: SizeOn
PWO: Whey + Cytocarb II
#4: Tilapia Filet, 2 yam patties
#5: Will be boiled shrimp and a whole plain baked potato
#6: 4 Eggs in a mayo and mustard egg salad

Adds up to
3200-3400 Calories
310-330g Protein
250-280g Carbs
110-130g Fat

95% Clean, chocolate milk was the only dirty all day long.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 20, 2009 3:36 PM ( #20 )
How's the gear going?
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Re:Aaron's Log - Monday, April 20, 2009 3:47 PM ( #21 )
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uhm so today was pretty hellish in training. ME squats are ridiculous, to say the least.
 
Leg Day
Total Training Time: 53 Minutes
 
ME Box Squats (60-90 Second Rests)
 
135 x 10 (Warm Up)
185 x 3
225 x 3
275 x 3
315 x 1
then exhaustion set in..
295 x 1
295 x fail and stuck on the box; had to bail out
275 x 1
275 x 1
 
My entire body didn't feel pumped or jacked.. just ****in' destroyed. My "swole" ego was shot after this.
  
I can tell this max ot/west side **** is going to get me stronger than piss.

LOL, ego destroyed, good for ya.  If you need to on max effort days you can rest longer, but with max OT I understand you don't want to rest too long.  I could see going heavy every minute being a real tough one.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 20, 2009 3:48 PM ( #22 )
Well.. Havoc is simply amazing. My abdominal V is getting clearer each day and I am getting more vascular all while eating caloric surplus.

I am currently at about 180lb bloated and still about 10% body fat, so I think I have lost some fat and gained muscle.

Pumps are unbelievable, plus strength is going up.

Side effects so far.. I have a strange consistency of sperm and getting to climax is a little tough. I think it's because I was high dosing for the past five days. I think my prostrate got a bit swollen so I am cutting down to 20mg ED for three weeks and then 30mg ED for one week and jumping on PCT.
 
I am very veryyyy testy, though. I have almost gotten in a fight with two best friends and Saturday night I considered going and picking a fight just for fun.. but I am of legal age.

I was going to pulse 8 weeks all together, but I find it ineffective.

So, great cycle at low to moderate doses. I can't wait to do an M-Drol/3-AD cycle this winter.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Monday, April 20, 2009 5:38 PM ( #23 )
Lol yeah I had a real temper on that stuff too.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Tuesday, April 21, 2009 12:06 PM ( #24 )
eh, gotta go to work today. hate that place so bad.

diet
#1: cytogainer, as always
#2: cheese stick, whey, shrimp
#3: natural turkey on whole wheat with mustard, cottage cheese and raisins and peaches, 16oz milk, some of my gf's fries and hotdog =]
#4: 3 eggs and two pieces of cheese
#5: will be whey/cytogainer at work
#6: will be whatever i indulge on when I get home at about 8:30 minus carbs.

about 3000 clean calories, and 200 dirties. lots of protein and carbs. whatever. sore and tired today. not in the mood. lethargy is kicking in.


Seo, I am definitely resting longer from now on. I almost died. lol.
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Re:heavy pull; high carb - Wednesday, April 22, 2009 3:06 PM ( #25 )
Weight today: 180.3lb +7lb since Havoc & Max OT/West Side began

I will be measuring this weekend, but I did measure my waist last night and I stand at a 32.5" so my BF is still considerably low for a bulk and a 7 pound gain.

I think the soreness of deadlifts on monday affected this workout, but maybe I am making excuses and acting like a ****because I missed a lift.


Okay so today was chest/tris/calves.. Big **** hole on bench press.

ME Bench Press
135 x 5
185 x 3
205 x 3
225 x 1
245 x Choked; Bad spot, pussed out, wtf ever.
230 x 1
225 x 1
185 x 3
205 x 3

I was pretty well pissed at missing 245, but I know I could have gotten 240 so I'm counting up 5lb on the big press.

DB Flat BP
60 x 6
70 x 6
80 x 4 PR I could never even get 80's once about a week ago, so yep.

Incline Smith BP
135 x 8
145 x 6
Into Flat
185 x 6

Incline DB Fly
40 x 6
45 x 6
50 x 6

Close Grip BP
135 x 6
145 x 6
155 x 5

Dips
6
5
+35lb 3 Reps

Overhead Extension
165 x 6
205 x 5

Then calves were worked hard.. I walked for 10 minutes.

Diet

#1:Cytogainer
#2: Chicken Pot pie biscuit thingie, whey, cheese stick
#3: Cottage cheese + raisins, whole wheat turkey sandwich with mayo, something else but egh I forget
#4: Sizeon and Whey + Cytocarb
#5: Chick-Fil-A 24 nuggets
#6: i dunoo
#7: i dunoooooooooo; will edit these later.
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perry's log - Friday, April 24, 2009 1:56 PM ( #26 )
Weighing in at 182lb today. That is a +11lb gain in the past two week since beginning Havoc. Body fat = unchanged or maybe less. My stomach is flatter and flatter each day and the obliques and shining brighter. MY back is a lot bigger or fuller or something. I look big as **** today.
 
 
 
Today was Legs and ME Squats. I didn't one rep squats today though
ME Box Squats
135 x 5
225 x 3
245 x 3
275 x 3
295 x 3
315 x 3 PR

Leg Extension
120 x 8
170 x 6
200 x 6
240 x 6

Leg Curl
110 x 6
130 x 6
140 x 4

Power Clean
105 x 1
135 x 1
135 x 1
155 x 1
165 x 1

Ab Work

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It suprised me how easily I did 315. I had a tremendous spot (he is learning more and more) and I got it no problem and felt secure. That means my 1RM has gone up =]
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Re:perry's log - Sunday, April 26, 2009 9:04 AM ( #27 )


I'm the swole guy on the far right, lol. The call of the wild looking guy is the one who I am currently helping begin training. He's my new and long lasting partner in crime.
 
Obviously, my senior prom was yesterday. I didn't lift because of pictures so I missed a shoulder day.

I missed a few meals also which sucked, but hey, I had a lot of fun. I guess everyone has one day that is off, right?

Anyway, I took cold measurements this morning

5'9"
181lb
Neck: 16.75"
Chest: 42.5"
Shoulder: 48.5"
Waist: 32.5"
Bicep: 15.5"
Quad: 24"
Calves: 15.25"

Not bad, eh? To have gone up 10lb, I believe I have indeed added weight in the right areas.
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PR's like Candybars - Monday, April 27, 2009 2:18 PM ( #28 )
I hit another deadlift PR today. It was easy too.
 
Deadlift
135 x 5
225 x 5
225 x 3
315 x 1
365 x 1 PR
405 x Fail; it was starting to pull, though!
 
BB Row
135 x 8
205 x 6
225 x 6
 
DB Row
90 x 6
110 x 6 PR
 
Pull Down
130 x 6 Wide
115 x 8 Wider
160 x 6 Close Grip
100 x 12 Widest, leaning back at a 15 degree angle.
 
Wide Grip Seated Cable Row
120 x 6
160 x 6
200 x 6 PR
 
BB Curl
65 x 6
85 x 6
100 x 5 PR
 
Machine Preacher Curl (2-0-2)
55 x 8
55 x 8
55 x 6 Each arm; 55 x 6 both arm super set
=Pump 
 
Ab Work
 
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Diet
 
#1: Cytogainer; Elite Cereal
#2: 1/2lb almonds; whey
#3: SizeOn & Whey + Cytocarb II
#4: 3 Yams, Tilapia Filet
#5: 6 Eggs
#6: Muscle Milk, 2-3oz almonds
 
Thats a lot o' goodies.
 
Currently dosing Havoc at 40mg ED now. Feeling the effects. Vascularity is getting amazing, focus is unbelieveable. This stuff is miraculous.
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Re:PR's like Candybars - Monday, April 27, 2009 2:37 PM ( #29 )
365 to 405 is a huge jump lol, nice job on the 365 though, just work your way up you'll get it especially if 365 was easy.

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Re:PR's like Candybars - Monday, April 27, 2009 3:14 PM ( #30 )
Yeah, for real 385 - 390 next week. Then 405. I will get 4 wheels before I graduate high school. (May 21)
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