Vario
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Smith Bar Weight?
How much does a smith bar weigh, or approximately weigh in terms of resistence, if you consider the ease that the rails provide? The one in my gym I believe is hammer strength and it's at a slight angle. Im trying to figure out how much weight I am squatting. I will probably switch to barbell when I am more comfortable, but for now, I am using smith.
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It depend the kind of the smith bar, some have a negative weight, so the bar is 0 lbs, some other are 25/35/45 lbs ...
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The bar goes down on its on, so I doubt its negative or neutral. Its probably around 20, but I wasnt positive.
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most smiths are 35 pounds
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Alright, thanks. Just broke above 210 for several reps and I am thinking about switching to barbell.
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The weight varies a lot from machine to machine, and the weight is complicated by the additional inertia exerted by the rail. All that's really important is to gauge realtiave progress, by the number of plates; use a conservative estimate for the bar if you want to include it. The closest approximation would be to use a barbell and compare.
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It says, on our smith machine, that the unweighted bar is 15 lbs.
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most smiths are 35 pounds Thisi s what i have heard as well. Best to just stay away from the smith machine :P
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The weight is typically 15 lbs.
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Now that we've established that no smith bars weigh the same, stay away form the damn smith machine lol.
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usually there'll be a label somewhere on the rack that will tell you
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HAHA im with blitz stay away from the smith inless you are FIRST starting out smith is very good for extreme beginners but after you have lifted for 6 months MAX i stoped using it after 2 months then I would diffentally get off that thing...or any machine think of it this way have you ever seen any good bodybuilders on a machine? i have seen old weak grandpals tho...thats as far as i will go
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yep, i see big muscle men at my gym using machines all the time, well not all the time, but they do incorporate machines into their workouts
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sheep ill go with you on that a little bit you do see bodybuilders on machines on average i will see maybe 1 but thats as far as i will go im not saying that they are ineffective i just dont see machines in the bodybuilding world
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My gym only has a Smith machine, for insurance reasons...  . That'll change, though, when I go back to school in 6 weeks.
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haha that sucks i know a lot of schools that are on machines for "safty" reasons our school has ONLY free weights...and one machine that is for lats, tris,you know what ever you wont to use it for but we never use it coach was thinking about throwing it out he only has it because some of the girls pick weight lifting as a class...i dont mind that tho 
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They're all different. Some say on them and some don't. If you own one, like I do, you can put a scale on the bench and weigh it. Mine is 35lbs. The one at the gym I go to is 25lbs. There is no way that any would be 15lbs b/c then it would be the size of a curling bar. A smith machine is good if you don't have a spot, but aside from that, even though it feels like free weights, it's not and it does not have the same resistance as a completely free barbell.
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Smith Machine barbell lunges rock!
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There is no way that any would be 15lbs b/c then it would be the size of a curling bar. The one at my gym says the bar is 15 lbs. It certainly doesn't feel any heavier.
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Alright, thanks. Just broke above 210 for several reps and I am thinking about switching to barbell.
There is one thing you should know, though. You won't be able to lift 210 in free weights. The smith machine takes a lot of weight off because of the rails. The ROM is also entirely different. Start off low on the barbell and work up.
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