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RE: Shoes?? - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 7:03 AM ( #31 )
Another advantage of chucks is that they're cheap as hell and you can buy them anywhere. You can also afford to get two pairs in two different colors and go all Punky Brewster on everyone's asses.
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RE: Shoes?? - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 11:07 AM ( #32 )
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:05 AM ( #33 )

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Hmmm, okay then. I just recommended chucks because they have completely flat feet and no compresiveness. For standing exercises that require perfectly flat feet on the ground like squats or overhead presses, chucks work wonderfully. I don't know what to recommend in your situation though.


Those exercises don't require perfectly flat feet on the ground. There is a reason olympic lifters have shoes with heels.

This little heel helps you get deep into the bottom of a squat, and provides more quads involevment in squats and deadlifts which helps you to get out of the hole.

Powerlifters usually use chucks because of the wide stance, which is a bit different and does not benefit from a heel.

 
I didn't know that.  I use a wide stance when I squat because it takes the pressure off my knees, so chucks are perfect for me for getting my feet flat. 
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:15 AM ( #34 )
Actually, now that I think about it, a slightly raised heel might help my squats, because a big source of discomfort for me is the sensation that I'm gonna tip over backwards, which makes me want to lean forward too much instead of getting my butt out and down, which puts all the wrong kind of stress on my back.
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:30 AM ( #35 )
IMO, you would be better off training your hams and glutes to be your support for not falling over backwards.  Raising your heels is just kind of a way around the problem, but it doesn't actually fix it.  There's nothing wrong with leaning over either, just as long as the bar is over the middle of your feet and you maintain the arch in your back. 
 
I noticed in your sig that you are trying to work on your squat form.  If you haven't already, buy Starting Strength by Mark Rippetoe.  It teaches you every single little detail to look for and correct for a perfect squat.  It really helped me a lot, because I've been having problems myself. 
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:27 AM ( #36 )
I've added it to my Amazon wish list... I know you've also done some things out of New Rules of Lifting by Lou Schuler - do you recommend that book also?
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:37 AM ( #37 )

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I've added it to my Amazon wish list... I know you've also done some things out of New Rules of Lifting by Lou Schuler - do you recommend that book also?

 
Absolutely.  I've been on that program for almost 8 months now.  I'm taking a little break now because of a knee injury (due to poor squat form), and I'm doing Rippetoe's full-body routine with light squatting in the meantime.  In January I'm gonna start back up on NROL.  It's one of the best programs I've ever seen, IMO.  It's not just one routine, it's a whole series of routines.
 
Next on my list is "practical programming" by Mark Rippetoe.  That's another book about strength training. 
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:08 PM ( #38 )

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I've added it to my Amazon wish list... I know you've also done some things out of New Rules of Lifting by Lou Schuler - do you recommend that book also?

 
You asked for briheads opinion  (for whatever that is worth), but seriously NROL great read solid routines, I like many of the contributing authors (or the other people cited), and have looked into their methodolgy before ever getting that book, and they are a pretty serious and respected group.
 
Definate results on the program, and very hard workouts.
 
If your at all intersested in working the body as a whole, and being functually strong, as well as putting on mass, definately get the book! 
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 2:42 PM ( #39 )
Oh, I'd forgot you were also reading that one. Well, of course, your opinion counts for more than brihead, even if you're just a girl.

OK, NROL makes the wish-list too.
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:19 PM ( #40 )
Ya for a girl, I guess her advice is okay. 
 
I bet if I ever met you in real life Harddog, you'd probably just bodyslam me, kick me in the ribs a few times, jump on top of me and punch me in the face like 5 times (but it wouldn't hurt).
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:25 PM ( #41 )
looks like the guys are a bit intimidated by the strong chick...........hmmmm.
I would look twice at her back pic in her avtar, I would say she is pretty strong looking and yet still a girl, I would say don't **** with her.
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RE: Shoes?? - Thursday, December 20, 2007 5:35 PM ( #42 )
Lol, key word looking.
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
 
I'm glad I'm safely at home where she can't hurt me.
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RE: Shoes?? - Friday, December 21, 2007 12:14 AM ( #43 )


ORIGINAL: brihead301


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ORIGINAL: brihead301

Hmmm, okay then. I just recommended chucks because they have completely flat feet and no compresiveness. For standing exercises that require perfectly flat feet on the ground like squats or overhead presses, chucks work wonderfully. I don't know what to recommend in your situation though.


Those exercises don't require perfectly flat feet on the ground. There is a reason olympic lifters have shoes with heels.

This little heel helps you get deep into the bottom of a squat, and provides more quads involevment in squats and deadlifts which helps you to get out of the hole.

Powerlifters usually use chucks because of the wide stance, which is a bit different and does not benefit from a heel.


I didn't know that. I use a wide stance when I squat because it takes the pressure off my knees, so chucks are perfect for me for getting my feet flat.


You should try it with normal stance (shoulder width) and low bar. It takes the pressure off the knees without eliminating quads involvment.
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RE: Shoes?? - Friday, December 21, 2007 5:27 AM ( #44 )
I've been trying it that way coldfire, but the only way I don't feel any pressure on my knees is by doing it wide stance.  The quads are still worked no matter what stance you use, just not as much with a wider stance.
 
I developed tendonitus in my right knee from going too heavy too fast before, so now I do everything I can so that to involve my hamstrings, glutes, and adductors.
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RE: Shoes?? - Friday, December 21, 2007 1:29 PM ( #45 )

ORIGINAL: Italianangel

looks like the guys are a bit intimidated by the strong chick...........hmmmm.
I would look twice at her back pic in her avtar, I would say she is pretty strong looking and yet still a girl, I would say don't **** with her.
Linda

Coming from you Linda that is a huge compliment!

Unfortnately I do look stronger than I am. But certainly I can take Butthead301 any day. the harddog comment was a good one, but you didn't really think I could let that slide, now did you? 
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