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STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, November 30, 2008 3:55 PM ( #1 )
Is it really true for someone like me who is 5'6  and  121 pounds will stunt their growth if they start heavy lifting now? I've been hearing that for a while so i'm a little scared. Pushups really do get old after a month. I had to stop and start something new.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, November 30, 2008 4:09 PM ( #2 )
No, lifting will not stunt your growth.  The only thing that will determine how tall or short you are is genetics.  A lack of proper nutrition can also be the cause of a person not growing to their fullest potential.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, November 30, 2008 6:32 PM ( #3 )
No it won't stunt your growth, also you didn't put enough !!'s in your title I didn't think it was important.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 01, 2008 6:57 AM ( #4 )
Be sure to make all the movements with good form and you'll be good.

Don't try to be a gorilla and do weights you are not able to lift properly. Train safe
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 01, 2008 7:25 AM ( #5 )
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No it won't stunt your growth, also you didn't put enough !!'s in your title I didn't think it was important.

 
rofl
 
And it wont stunt your growth. I promise.
 
Just eat like a horse and lift properly and you'll grow my man. 

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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 01, 2008 1:26 PM ( #6 )
I just want to point out that everyone who has posted in here thus far is under 5'5.

JK, you're fine.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 01, 2008 5:54 PM ( #7 )
I just wanted to point out i'm 5'6" (: ok like 5' 5 3/4" same thing.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 01, 2008 6:46 PM ( #8 )
also how much do you think i should be able to bench? i havent done anything and i'm skinny but not too skinny. 5'6, 121 pounds, and 14.  if you need a pic i can post one. i'm asking cause i'm buying this weight bench that comes with 100 pounds of weight so i'm wondering if i might need to buy more.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tuesday, December 02, 2008 12:23 PM ( #9 )
if you plan upon sticking to weightlifting i would get more...
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:34 PM ( #10 )
how much more

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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tuesday, December 02, 2008 5:53 PM ( #11 )
A lot dude. If you eat enough and stick to a tough program, your newbie gains will fly and 100 pounds will be nothing in your compound lifts. Get at least 315 worth. That should hold you over for maybe a year, IF you work hard.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:32 PM ( #12 )
Start with the 100 pounds and see if you stick with it. No point in buying a bunch of weights if you are not going to use them.


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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Tuesday, December 02, 2008 6:39 PM ( #13 )
You'll already be able to do more than 100 with squat and deadlifts for sure probably not bench but after 3-6 months bench definitly won't be enough either, I'd say 300 lb. would be good for a while but also I agree no point in investing alot of money before you know you want to stick to it.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Wednesday, December 03, 2008 5:24 PM ( #14 )
thanks guys
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 15, 2008 9:53 AM ( #15 )
Yet


I just want to point out that everyone who has posted in here thus far is under 5'5.

JK, you're fine.



Sir I am 6'3".
 
They dont make a Yet sized chrisshepherd, thank you very much.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 15, 2008 10:36 AM ( #16 )
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Yet


I just want to point out that everyone who has posted in here thus far is under 5'5.

JK, you're fine.



Sir I am 6'3".

They dont make a Yet sized chrisshepherd, thank you very much.

I hear they're  releasing one for the spring break 09 season....

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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:31 PM ( #17 )
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also how much do you think i should be able to bench? i havent done anything and i'm skinny but not too skinny. 5'6, 121 pounds, and 14.  if you need a pic i can post one. i'm asking cause i'm buying this weight bench that comes with 100 pounds of weight so i'm wondering if i might need to buy more.


dude you'll be fine. how much you can bench completely depends on you.. just follow this rule on just about any exercise:
 
-the most weight you can handle(all the way thru) for
3-5sets at 10-15* reps per set >>to get lean and cut
 
-the most weight you can handle(all the way thru) for
3-5sets at 5-8* reps per set >>to get strength and bulk
 
 
 
lol when i was younger i was about 5'6 and 121lbs too, "now im 6'5 and 211lbs" so i'd say that works pretty good.      
 
 
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:40 PM ( #18 )
lmfao
 
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, December 28, 2008 6:54 PM ( #19 )
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3-5sets at 10-15* reps per set >>to get lean and cut

3-5sets at 5-8* reps per set >>to get strength and bulk
  


I agree on the part of lower reps for strength but bulking and cutting have only to do with diet, high reps getting you cut is a hugely overblown myth.  Diet gets you cut, low reps are the way to go.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:07 PM ( #20 )
true, however the fact that slow twitch muscle fiber burns more fat/amino fatty acids as compaired to fast twitch, generaly leads to a more defined view

so if you training low weight high rep.. you're automatically going to lower bf
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Sunday, December 28, 2008 7:48 PM ( #21 )
Muscle fiber types vary in every single person.  Some people are type II dominant (primarily fast-twitch or white fibered) while others are type I dominant (primarily slow-twitch or red fibered).  You can't change this it is all genetics.  Most bodybuilders are predominantly white fibered, their body fat is in the most elite category.  The key is to figure out what dominance you have and adjusting your rep range to suit you more properly.  White fibered dominant people usually respond best to low reps while red fibered dominant people respond best to higher reps.

Basically what this means is that training high rep low weight doesn't make you burn any significant amount of fat over low rep heavy weight.  You can't just pick what muscle fibers you want to use but you can pick what exercises will better benefit your musculature.  As a note:  predominantly red-fibered bodybuilders are extremely rare, as are white-fibered marathon runners. 
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 5:26 AM ( #22 )
Lifting weight will make you grow more, not less. it naturally rasies your bodies level of hormones, like GH and testosterone.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 6:33 AM ( #23 )
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Muscle fiber types vary in every single person.  Some people are type II dominant (primarily fast-twitch or white fibered) while others are type I dominant (primarily slow-twitch or red fibered).  You can't change this it is all genetics.  Most bodybuilders are predominantly white fibered, their body fat is in the most elite category.  The key is to figure out what dominance you have and adjusting your rep range to suit you more properly.  White fibered dominant people usually respond best to low reps while red fibered dominant people respond best to higher reps.

Basically what this means is that training high rep low weight doesn't make you burn any significant amount of fat over low rep heavy weight.  You can't just pick what muscle fibers you want to use but you can pick what exercises will better benefit your musculature.  As a note:  predominantly red-fibered bodybuilders are extremely rare, as are white-fibered marathon runners. 


you can reduce or enlarge the number of type I or type II muscle fibers in the body.  If you train specifically for a marathon of a long period of time your type II muscle fiber will atrophy while the type I will grow and the opposite is true as well.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 10:01 AM ( #24 )
No, you can only enlarge the fibers, it is called hypertrophy, but you would still be dominant in one type.  Hyperplasia is the forming of new fibers and it is of yet still considered a myth.   You cannot create new types of muscle fibers, only make them bigger.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 3:31 PM ( #25 )
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Lifting weight will make you grow more, not less. it naturally rasies your bodies level of hormones, like GH and testosterone.

lifting weights doesn't make you grow more (height wise) look at yet (:

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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 3:57 PM ( #26 )
Conelly, there is so much evidence, and so many reports linking weightlifting to higher natural levels of hormones.  These hormones make you grow.  Therefore... if you're still with me, lifting makes you grow.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 7:20 PM ( #27 )
[/quote=Chalky Palms]

No, you can only enlarge the fibers, it is called hypertrophy, but you would still be dominant in one type.  Hyperplasia is the forming of new fibers and it is of yet still considered a myth.   You cannot create new types of muscle fibers, only make them bigger.


 i give this one to palms.. he's right, Hyperplasia refers to an increase in muscle size(hypertrophy) due to an increase in the number muscle fibers. and while studies on animals do display possible "spliting" in response to long-term, intense and heavy resistance training, it has not difinitivly been proven so.
 in a sense, an individual is indeed genetically pre-disposed to a dominance of either type l or ll. for one to cause any aspect of their physique to atrophy in hopes of benifiting in some other way is irresponsible to say the least.
there should be a healthy ballance depending on the individuals disposition.
 
however "palms" i still insist that slow-twitch burn more fat on an equal scale, as they require an oxidative metabolism of energy, as well contain a larger mitocondria and related enzymes , with more blood capillaries and "intercellular fat"
 
just look at two prime representitives of each categlory
 
a marathon runner (dominatly type l)
and a power-lifter (dominatly type ll)
 
who has all the muscle (trained just about daily) but is still fat...? a power-lifter everytime! and calorie consumption is relativly equal in both cases.
 
 
dont you think it's best to train every aspect or ones anotomy? at least with this kid here. the best thing he can do is train every bit of his body; naturaly some groups may need more trainging than others, considering his own make-up, yes, but that way when he's older he is perfectly set up for whatever type of training he wishes to further persue?
 
i think so
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 7:21 PM ( #28 )
quote didnt quite come out right there did it!?
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 7:49 PM ( #29 )
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i give this one to palms.. he's right, Hyperplasia refers to an increase in muscle size(hypertrophy) due to an increase in the number muscle fibers. and while studies on animals do display possible "spliting" in response to long-term, intense and heavy resistance training, it has not difinitivly been proven so.
 in a sense, an individual is indeed genetically pre-disposed to a dominance of either type l or ll. for one to cause any aspect of their physique to atrophy in hopes of benifiting in some other way is irresponsible to say the least.
there should be a healthy ballance depending on the individuals disposition.
 
however "palms" i still insist that slow-twitch burn more fat on an equal scale, as they require an oxidative metabolism of energy, as well contain a larger mitocondria and related enzymes , with more blood capillaries and "intercellular fat"
 
just look at two prime representitives of each categlory
 
a marathon runner (dominatly type l)
and a power-lifter (dominatly type ll)
 
who has all the muscle (trained just about daily) but is still fat...? a power-lifter everytime! and calorie consumption is relativly equal in both cases.
 
 
dont you think it's best to train every aspect or ones anotomy? at least with this kid here. the best thing he can do is train every bit of his body; naturaly some groups may need more trainging than others, considering his own make-up, yes, but that way when he's older he is perfectly set up for whatever type of training he wishes to further persue?
 
i think so


hey bro, good to see you know what you are talking about and have made an intelligent reply.  I agree with you on everything except one part, and that is that I believe the fat burning differential between the two fiber types is really negligible.  You compared powerlifters to marathon runners which does fit your case but it isn't really that great of an example.  Like I said, Bodybuilders are almost always type II dominant, I'm sure you would agree that they are among the leanest people on earth.  You will rarely see a type I bodybuilder or type II marathon runner, they both are lean, yet they have different dominance with regards to their muscle fibers.   With that being said I agree that every individual should strive to stress their body to its limits no matter what fiber type dominance they have, but the fact is some people are just genetically gifted and others are genetically doomed.  Such is life.
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Re:STUNTED GROWTH!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!! - Monday, December 29, 2008 8:00 PM ( #30 )
ha cool.. dont you hate it when ppl get into HUGE discusions saying things they just made up 2 minutes ago! lol it's awsome when someone eles know what their saying.

in all honesty i think the whole slow twitch burns more fat is proboly blown out of preportion due to confusion of the actual source of the "fat" substance being burned off. 
i mean basically the difference is that fast twitch burns up fat as soon as glusose is in the blood, as compared to slow twitch using primarily pre-stored glycogen
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