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Rippetoe - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 9:06 PM
I've read his book, and I have to say it's quite detailed. However what I don't get is in this video of him performing the squat, it's nothing like how he describes how to execute a squat properly. His looking down while performing his squats?
 
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwXy8Dlgvzo
 
 
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RE: Rippetoe - Tuesday, July 01, 2008 11:49 PM

ORIGINAL: vdk_au

I've read his book, and I have to say it's quite detailed. However what I don't get is in this video of him performing the squat, it's nothing like how he describes how to execute a squat properly. His looking down while performing his squats?

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qwXy8Dlgvzo




He is squatting exactly the way he describes it in the book. Read the chapter again.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 3:57 AM
Far be it for me to criticize Mr. Rippetoe but it appears when he's coming out of the hole, his upper torso is leaning forward just a tab bit much.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:07 AM
I saw a video on youtube of rippetoe instructing a girl on how to do a deadlift. What he told her was different to the instructions in starting strength.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 5:10 AM
He does emphasize the "eyes down".  He says to look at a point 6 feet in front of you on the floor while you squat.  He goes into great detail about that in the book.
 
Also, he really emphasizes lots hip drive (basically your hips should be moving in a direct vertical line up and down as if there was a rope attached to your butt, and someone was pulling you up by the rope).  The hip drive, along with the low bar position, along with the fact that the bar is supposed to remain directly over mid-foot throughout the squat would explain the forward lean.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:29 AM


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

Far be it for me to criticize Mr. Rippetoe but it appears when he's coming out of the hole, his upper torso is leaning forward just a tab bit much.


It is only his head that is dropping. If you look at the torso, it's fine.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 7:30 AM


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I saw a video on youtube of rippetoe instructing a girl on how to do a deadlift. What he told her was different to the instructions in starting strength.


So?
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:40 AM
I've looked at it a couple of times and I'm still seeing his torso bend forward a tab bit too much.. it's very noticable when he comes out of the whole, 1/3 up..and he does it on just about every rep.  Maybe this is the proper way he instucts it to be performed but it looks as if it could be an issue with heavier weight. ?
 

ORIGINAL: coldfire


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

Far be it for me to criticize Mr. Rippetoe but it appears when he's coming out of the hole, his upper torso is leaning forward just a tab bit much.


It is only his head that is dropping. If you look at the torso, it's fine.

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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 8:56 AM
What do you mean "so"? Was my post not a valid contribution to the thread? I was only agreeing with the thread starter. I thought this was a forum. Don't be a pr1ck.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:01 AM
yea he does seem to bend forward a lot. i do that sometimes too though, not that that makes it any better. why does he stop at the top for so long?
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:08 AM
As long as you maintain the tight lower back with the shoulders back and chest out, bending over a lot is not a problem. 
 
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:25 AM


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

I've looked at it a couple of times and I'm still seeing his torso bend forward a tab bit too much.. it's very noticable when he comes out of the whole, 1/3 up..and he does it on just about every rep. Maybe this is the proper way he instucts it to be performed but it looks as if it could be an issue with heavier weight. ?


ORIGINAL: coldfire


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

Far be it for me to criticize Mr. Rippetoe but it appears when he's coming out of the hole, his upper torso is leaning forward just a tab bit much.


It is only his head that is dropping. If you look at the torso, it's fine.



Please explain how you decide what is leaning too much.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:27 AM


ORIGINAL: quickfinch

What do you mean "so"? Was my post not a valid contribution to the thread? I was only agreeing with the thread starter. I thought this was a forum. Don't be a pr1ck.


I don't see how it was a valid contribution to the thread.
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 9:51 AM
I'll try....
 
From my understanding when performing a squat, when the hips are pushed back, the upper torso will naturally fall forward.  The lifter should maintain that natural arch/bend as the knee's start to come into the lift..
 
When Rippetoe extends his hips back, his torso falls naturally forward as it should and his back does maintain the slight arch.. again as it should but from when he's assending from the from the hole, about 1/3 up, his torso appears to comeinto play before his hips are fully back into position which almost makes the squat work more of the lower back..
 
Another factor I'm considering is the angle of the shot.. maybe it would be easier to see this if the shot had been taken directly from the side instead of a 45 deg? 

ORIGINAL: coldfire


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

I've looked at it a couple of times and I'm still seeing his torso bend forward a tab bit too much.. it's very noticable when he comes out of the whole, 1/3 up..and he does it on just about every rep. Maybe this is the proper way he instucts it to be performed but it looks as if it could be an issue with heavier weight. ?


ORIGINAL: coldfire


ORIGINAL: smoundzou

Far be it for me to criticize Mr. Rippetoe but it appears when he's coming out of the hole, his upper torso is leaning forward just a tab bit much.


It is only his head that is dropping. If you look at the torso, it's fine.



Please explain how you decide what is leaning too much.

There is never enough time to do everything, but there is always enough time to do the most important thing

 
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RE: Rippetoe - Wednesday, July 02, 2008 10:05 AM
He is all about the hip drive.  Whereas a lot of people worry about not "Good morning the weight up", he doesn't worry so much about that as much as he is concerned with strongly pronounced hip drive.
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