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Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 7:57:51 AM
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motokouk
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Hey,
Ok I'm cutting right now current calories per day are avrg of 2050, main Q is if my fat % lowers or my weight do I need to increase my calories accordingly? I used the calorie calculator this morn put my new weight in and it showed I need to increase by about 100..Is this optimum? Do I basically need to increase as I get leaner?
Please help me out! Thanks!!!
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 7:59:59 AM
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David1991
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if u lose weight u most likely have to decrease calories not increase. unless u gain muscle
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 9:25:51 AM
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motokouk
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Hmm..It just I am a little extra HUNGRY, so I figured it was due to bodyfat decreasing. I'm confused now. Don't really want to decrease cals, might lose some muscle? Or is this my only option? Aren't I essentially gaining muscle by reducing my body fat? It's being replaced by muscle no?
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Height / 5'10
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 10:38:43 AM
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David1991
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Hmm..It just I am a little extra HUNGRY, so I figured it was due to bodyfat decreasing. I'm confused now. Don't really want to decrease cals, might lose some muscle? Or is this my only option? Aren't I essentially gaining muscle by reducing my body fat? It's being replaced by muscle no?
just because ur hungry doesnt necessarily mean u dropped body fat. and just because u decrease calories doesnt mean you'll lose muscle. has ur weight changed and have u actually checked ur bf%?
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 10:55:30 AM
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motokouk
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I don't know what my bodyfat is in all honesty, I've been going off how it appears and how thick it feels ha ha! Not optimal I know. Just looking at Dan mirage guide he suggest to drop 250 cals if your not losing fat or gaining muscle, what do you say? I do need a proper test though. I've gone from 72kg to 71kg since last week, 71kg being my current weight...What would you suggest. Here's my critique physique from last week I'm thinking maybe dropping 150?
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Critique_my_cut_progress_3months/m_376958/tm.htm
Any help would be amazing!
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 11:02:58 AM
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David1991
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o yea i saw those. it does seem like ur getting leaner but its hard to suggest something when i dont really know ur losing. my suggestions for if u lost all fat would be completely different than if u lost mainly muscle
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 11:04:43 AM
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motokouk
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Hmm, it's hard I have the acu measure caliper test would that be any good? It's a one point caliper.
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April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 11:08:33 AM
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motokouk
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At the mo I've basically added 3 HIIT sessions after weights and 20 min jogs on the non HIIT days, calories have stayed the same at around 2050 avrg. I'm just a bit stuck as to what I should do to create optimum results. Quicker results essentially
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Height / 5'10
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 12:32:52 PM
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motokouk
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The probarbly not accurate acu-measure calipers had me arwnd 10.5% ...What should I do? Drop a few cals?
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Height / 5'10
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 2:05:58 PM
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Hmm, it's hard I have the acu measure caliper test would that be any good? It's a one point caliper.
use the 3 point method. http://www.linear-software.com/online.html
as for cardio i would do HIIT on off days and the 20min steady cardio after lifting
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 2:22:08 PM
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motokouk
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Ok will try that and report back :)
Should I drop some cals? I'm thinking of adjusting my carb intake too, lower it.
My ratios are based on my 2050 cals
Fat 25-30ish
50-60gram
Carb 38-40ish
200-230gram
Pro 30-35ish
160-180gram
Typical meal plan is
8.30
cup oats
ON 100% whey mixed in
12.00
2 whole eggs scrambled on wholemeal pitta
3.00
Half a tin of tuna
mixed into quinoa teaspoon olive oil
Pnut butter
workout 5-5.45 on avrg
6.00-7(Post workout)
meat , with broccolli, string beans brown rice/ptatoe
10.00-10.30
ON 100% whey and 14 cashews
Do you reckon I drop some of the carbs later on? possibly the pitta or rice with pwo?
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Height / 5'10
Weight /
Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 2:24:10 PM
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David1991
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i just kinda glanced over it but it looks good. i would get some more vegetables in though. have u tried carb cycling?
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 3:05:50 PM
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motokouk
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Haven't tried carb cycling, would you advise this for me and my goals?
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 3:18:42 PM
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David1991
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Haven't tried carb cycling, would you advise this for me and my goals?
yea, its been the most beneficial for me when it comes to fat loss
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 3:32:06 PM
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motokouk
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Just reading the article..Seems like my I've been cryig out for this for a while! Do you follow the No carb rule? I can't imagine doing that!?thanks :)
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Height / 5'10
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Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 3:42:04 PM
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David1991
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Just reading the article..Seems like my I've been cryig out for this for a while! Do you follow the No carb rule? I can't imagine doing that!?thanks :)
what article are u talking about? theres a lot of different methods to carb cycling
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 4:14:33 PM
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motokouk
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I;m reading the twin peaks one. What is your programe that you follow. The high carb days don't sound nice at all! I get bloated off the carbs I consume now! Any suggestions?
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Height / 5'10
Weight /
Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 4:22:38 PM
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David1991
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I;m reading the twin peaks one. What is your programe that you follow. The high carb days don't sound nice at all! I get bloated off the carbs I consume now! Any suggestions?
man i havent read over that one in over a year. if i remember it doesnt involve counting calories or macronutrients so if that fits ur style go for it.
personally i've never done it, i follow one outlined to me by tom venuto. its more strict though, as far as how much u have to count calories and everything
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 4:36:08 PM
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motokouk
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I'll look at that one too, essentially I want to aim for a certain amount of calories, I like it that way but regulate how much carbs I get so to not get too many..Argh!! Can you outline what you do?
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Height / 5'10
Weight /
Feb 2008 - 167 lps
April 2008 - 156 lbs
May 2008 - 154 lbs
Age 22
BF- Your guess is as good as mine!
Stack - ON100% whey, BCAA, and food!
Currently : cutting until may 16!
Starting my bulk as of June 2nd
Starting weight 154 lbs 10-12% bf
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RE: Q about fat loss and calories - 5/2/2008 5:09:38 PM
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David1991
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I'll look at that one too, essentially I want to aim for a certain amount of calories, I like it that way but regulate how much carbs I get so to not get too many..Argh!! Can you outline what you do?
i'll try to give u a good but brief explanation
you do 3 days of low carbs (40-45p/25-30c/25f), followed by 1 days of high carbs (25-30p/45-50c/25f).
-dont eat complex carbs after the 3rd meal, only vegetables (on low carb days
-on high carb days u can have complex carbs in all ur meals but i usually limit it to the first 5
thats basically it for the nutrition. im assuming u know what quality foods to eat.
then theres of course the cardio aspect
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