Protein Digestion

I heard that every 3 months or so you should clean your intestines from the strands of protein build-up that develops overtime; especially when on a high-protein diet. I believe you should use some sort of laxative, not exactly sure.

Does anyone do this now or even heard about this?

news to me.

anyone has anything on this?

Heard that.. don't buy it. I've also heard or read on sites that say the average person has upwards of 30 lbs of fecal matter in them.. I don't buy that either.

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That's from the marketing materials for the "detoxification" pills.

No, you're not full of crap, the claims are!

ORIGINAL: john23

I heard that every 3 months or so you should clean your intestines from the strands of protein build-up that develops overtime; especially when on a high-protein diet. I believe you should use some sort of laxative, not exactly sure.

Does anyone do this now or even heard about this?

I use a pipe-cleaner or, when I'm really backed up, a plumber's snake.

OMG!

this reminds me of a photo on rotten.com of a long fecal trail they took out of someone. YUCK!!!

Your bowels were designed for one meal in one meal out.. so, if you eat 4 times a day you should be going 4 times a day. If you do not then you are slowly getting backed up.
You see those guys with the large gut? If you push on their gut you'll find that it is rock hard, not full of fat. As soon as they start doing a bowel cleanse their gut shrinks, they are getting rid of all the fecal matter that is stored up. My Uncle did a bowel cleanse, within the first 7 days of being on it he said he was going to the bathroom LOTS and I saw his gut a week later and it had reduced significantly. He has now lost 80 percent of that belly with the bowel cleanse.

John Wayne donated his body to science, when they opened him up they excavated 60lbs of fecal matter from his colon.

So, yes, you should definitely be doing a bowel cleanse of some sort. Have you been noticing your fecal matter becoming smaller and smaller? if you have that means it is slowly building up a wall in your colon and you're only passing part of what needs to be released. Are you noticing that you are going less and less?? If you are that means you are getting backed up.

If you dont want to spend the $$ on cleanse kits, then just up the ol' fibre intake by lots and down tons of water. Make sure you are getting in at LEAST 4 litres a day.

Hope this helps, and good luck.
G.

ps, if none of this works then i'd give the ol' plumbers snake a go!!!

oh, i forgot to mention that you should stay away from the laxatives. If you did some sort of herbal cleanse they are designed to help your bowel function properly vs a laxative that will just 'dump' everything out.. usually resulting in losing valuable electrolytes and water.

If you are plugged up your colon will develop 'pockets' of fecal matter that will in time have a mucus layer covering them, this mucosal layer will not allow the fecal matter to 'go'. So it will stay in your system and in time your body will re-absorb it..gross i know.... a herbal cleanse will get rid of that mucus (depending on if you get the kind that does that). You get rid of that mucus you get rid of that vintaged crap!

A laxative will NOT get rid of that mucus layer. It will instead just 'dump' out your bowels, but completely. It can in essence mess up your proper function of your bowels and almost set you back a few days yet again.

If you want more info gimme a reply and i'll do what i can to help.

Well, remeber, John Wayne was dead, and I'd guess everything wasn't working normally right before he died.

There's a lot of leftover "Road to Wellville" lore floating around, seems those Victorians were just FASCINATED with their bowels. There are also a lot of people selling "detoxification" and "colon clensing" products that are more than happy to keep this kind of talk going.

If there's a problem with your GI tract, odds are you'll notice pretty quickly. Otherwise, I'd worry about other things (IMHO).

Edit: My workout partner had to prepare for a GI medical procedure, so he had to drink a gallon of antifreeze and eat no solids for a day. THat left him with absolutely nothing in his GI track. He did NOT lose anything CLOSE to 60 lbs. Maybe 4 lbs tops.

ORIGINAL: DVST8NG

Your bowels were designed for one meal in one meal out.. so, if you eat 4 times a day you should be going 4 times a day. If you do not then you are slowly getting backed up.
You see those guys with the large gut? If you push on their gut you'll find that it is rock hard, not full of fat. As soon as they start doing a bowel cleanse their gut shrinks, they are getting rid of all the fecal matter that is stored up. My Uncle did a bowel cleanse, within the first 7 days of being on it he said he was going to the bathroom LOTS and I saw his gut a week later and it had reduced significantly. He has now lost 80 percent of that belly with the bowel cleanse.

John Wayne donated his body to science, when they opened him up they excavated 60lbs of fecal matter from his colon.

So, yes, you should definitely be doing a bowel cleanse of some sort. Have you been noticing your fecal matter becoming smaller and smaller? if you have that means it is slowly building up a wall in your colon and you're only passing part of what needs to be released. Are you noticing that you are going less and less?? If you are that means you are getting backed up.

If you dont want to spend the $$ on cleanse kits, then just up the ol' fibre intake by lots and down tons of water. Make sure you are getting in at LEAST 4 litres a day.

Hope this helps, and good luck.
G.

ps, if none of this works then i'd give the ol' plumbers snake a go!!!

Powerhaus, its not just the claims that are full of crap, its this post.

No, distended stomachs are not the result of back up bowels, they are the result of visceral adipose tissue.

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Like I said, the Victorian era fascination with their bowels created myths that still persist.

Your bowels were designed for one meal in one meal out.. so, if you eat 4 times a day you should be going 4 times a day.

Then why is it that if you go to the hospital for anything and they ask if you've had a movement in the last 2 days? So you're saying that a model or star like who eats 5x a day will go 5x a day? IMpossible. That person would spend more time going than doing anything else. Doesn't different nuitrients in food get digested slower or faster? Doesn't the body store more food if it is in starvation mode? Doesn't the body use food as a fuel for iteslf, so depending on your metabolism and nuitritional value of the food, it decides what to use and what to waste?

oh, i forgot to mention that you should stay away from the laxatives. If you did some sort of herbal cleanse they are designed to help your bowel function properly vs a laxative that will just 'dump' everything out.. usually resulting in losing valuable electrolytes and water.

Then why do doctors recommend laxatives to pateints who suffer from being backed up if they are so bad for you? Not that I wouldn't second guess my doctor (especially when he bills me three times for one office visit!) But doctors are generally supposed to look out for your well being. Besides aren't laxatives regulated by the FDA? Who's regulating herbal companies? Themselves? The same companies that can basically say that a pill can make you lose weight without exercise and diet? Again, not saying that all supplement/herbal companies aren't capable of regulating themselves, but there are that certain few.

My workout partner had to prepare for a GI medical procedure, so he had to drink a gallon of antifreeze and eat no solids for a day. THat left him with absolutely nothing in his GI track. He did NOT lose anything CLOSE to 60 lbs. Maybe 4 lbs tops.

Yeah...exactly. I've had stomach viruses many times and my stomach NEVER got smaller.

Unforunately I'd trust TP over you DVST8NG anytime because I trust TP because I've seen the results he and his company get. Not that I will never trust you, but from the above post, I think it suffices to say that there aren't many facts there. Unless, that is, that you can prove them.

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Then why is it that if you go to the hospital for anything and they ask if you've had a movement in the last 2 days? So you're saying that a model or star like who eats 5x a day will go 5x a day?

Just because they think it is 'normal' at the hospital that you have gone at least once in the last 2 days doesnt mean it's normal function.

""Then why do doctors recommend laxatives to pateints who suffer from being backed up if they are so bad for you? Not that I wouldn't second guess my doctor (especially when he bills me three times for one office visit!) But doctors are generally supposed to look out for your well being. Besides aren't laxatives regulated by the FDA?""

Just because a drug is regulated by the FDA, or is prescribed by your dr doesnt mean that it does not have side effects. Yes a dr is looking out for you well being, however it is impossible for a dr to know absolutely everything about everything. They know what they know and few of them have the time to learn about alternative medicines.

Laxatives are designed to stimulate the bowel in the efforts to excrete more mucous materials. In actuality, laxatives do not correct the real problem... but instead they make it worse. By irritating the bowels to expel materials, they are not promoting the natural function of the colon muscles - but are instead assisting in the deterioration of the sensitive intestinal membranes. Laxatives can be extremely habit-forming, and over time will cause the colon to become weaker and lazy.

He did NOT lose anything CLOSE to 60 lbs. Maybe 4 lbs tops

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not EVERYONE with a large gut is due to large pockets of fecal matter in their colon.... visceroptosis is also a definite possibility.

"Not that I will never trust you, but from the above post, I think it suffices to say that there aren't many facts there. Unless, that is, that you can prove them."

well, you are right, i have made a lot of points but did not back them up.. how about quotes from md's?

A very important factor to a properly functioning colon is for it to be able to first absorb nutrients, and second to remove the waste materials from our body before it can poison us. If this matter is not properly removed, autointoxication (the re-absorption of toxic waste) can begin. It does not take long for putrefied waste to absorb through the colon wall into the bloodstream and to begin to cause damage to the other organs as well. Most people think that they do not have a problem with their digestive system, but in actuality a healthy person should be having a bowel movement 2 - 3 times per day. For each meal we eat; we should have one meal out. Due to improper diet and the consumption of junk food, very few people have a normal functioning colon. This is so true that Dr. Harvey Kellog has made the comment , "Of the 22,000 operations I personally performed, I never found a single normal colon."

Problems with the digestive system are among the greatest and most dangerous, but yet relatively ignored, problems within the western countries. Chiefest among the problems are directly related to the large intestines. Most people are not aware how dangerous autointoxication caused from irregular bowel movements and a sluggish colon are to their health. Dr. Bernard Jensen, D.C., Ph.D. states, "the definition of regularity is 2-3 bowel movements per day". The Royal Society of Medicine of Great Britain has published the shocking revelation, "More than 65 different health challenges are caused by a toxic colon."


Once we truly understand that the single greatest challenge our body faces is the effective removal of wastes and toxins, we will never again undermine the importance of frequent, high quality, bowel movements. Once the colon has been cleansed, and is functioning at its optimum efficiency, the absorption of nutrients is also maximized. The longer your body is exposed to putrefying food in your intestines, the greater the risk of developing disease. Everyone would greatly benefit with doing a full bowel cleanse at least once per year, with ongoing colon maintenance when necessary.

If you all still think that this post is full of crap, so be it, not much i can do about that... however, if there is any one group of people you would think would be more open minded to this line of thought, you'd think it would the bodybuilders and fitness minded people. Why? Because look at the amount of $$ spent every month on supplements etc to better our bodies, to get the maximum of everything into our bodies. so, if having a properly functioning colon means a greater absorption of nutrients into our bodies wouldn't it make sense to clean it out and make sure it is functioning at its best?

This is so true that Dr. Harvey Kellog has made the comment , "Of the 22,000 operations I personally performed, I never found a single normal colon."

More than anything this convinces me that Dr. Harvey Kellog (BTW: isn't he the guy that Road To Wellville was about?) has no idea what the word "normal" means. That's a bit like me asserting that cars can fly, but most cars out there are functioning improperly -- in fact, out of the 20,000 cars I saw last year, not a single one was functioning normally.

For a bit more reasonable look at colon therapy, I recommend Gastrointestinal Quackery:
Colonics, Laxatives, and More

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Kellog...exactly, the guy from "Road to Wellville" He may have invented breakfast cereal, but the man was a quack.

Now, if he's never seen a "normal" colon, then how is it he knows what "normal" is?