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PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 12:41:17 PM   
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User Posted Image HI, I NEED SOME HELP!!! I THOUGHT I WAS GOING IN THE RIGHT DIRECTION, BUT YOU KNOW I TALK TO SOMEONE WHO GIVES ME INFO AND THEN I GET ALL CONFUSED AGAIN, WHICH LEADS TO DEPRESSION, WHICH LEADS TO APPLE PIE!!!
I NEED TO KNOW HOW TO LOSE 30LBS(NOT OVER NIGHT) BUT A.S.A.P
FOOD & EXERCISE.
I WAS ON BODY FOR LIFE AND GOING TO THE GYM 5 DAYS A WEEK. I WAS ALTERNATING UPPER, CARDIO, LOWER ETC.  THE FOOD END WAS PROTEIN & CARBS 60/40 RATIO, 3-4 LITRES OF WATER A DAY. THEN I WAS INFORMED THAT EVEN THOUGH I WAS DOING 3/15 CRUNCHES ON A YOGA BALL 5 DAYS /WEEK, THAT I WAS NEVER GOING TO SEE A SIX PACK UNLESS I DROPPED THE FAT. THEN THE APPLE PIE CAME IN!!User Posted Image THEN I GOT MAD AND THOUGHT, I'VE BEEN ON WEIGHT WATCHERS, I THINK I WILL COMBINE THE 2. HIGH PROTEIN WHILE STAYING IN THE POINTS SYSTEM. THAT'S NOT GOING TO WORK.

COULD I LOSE BODY FAT IF I STICTLY DID 30 MINS/CARDIO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND FOLLOWED THE BODY FOR LIFE EATING PROGRAM??? SOMETIMES I FEEL LIKE I AM GETTING FATTER BY THE DAY!!!!User Posted Image
PLS SOMEONE HELP ME OUT WITH A HEALTHY EATING PLAN AND THE GYM IN ORDER TO LOSE MY BELLY FAT!
I DO REALIZE THAT THERE IS MORE THAN ONE ROUTINE OUT THERE, I JUST NEED TO KNOW WHAT IS GOOD FOR LOSING WEIGHT BY SOMEONE WHO HAS TRIED IT AND KNOW'S IT WORKS.
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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:00:39 PM   
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yea i seen you post on the abs forum. Look the weight watchers crap, that stuff will get you losing everything, fat, muscle, friggin skin (jking). Seriously though your doing plenty for cardio, also get plenty of sleep. No meals after eight, keep the carbs very low before you workout, a little fat is ok don't worry, because it helps with normal functions of the body. Take a motabolism enhancer, you might have to alternate between a few to find one that works with your body (ie. lean system 7, hydroxycut, heard great things about both). I dunno if you like milk, but calcium is acid to fat, so skim milk would be very helpful also. Myself I drink 2 gallons a week. Also, if you are really wanting to target fat it is ESSENTIAL to do it first thing in the morning to see good results quickly. That is the peak time when your body is able to burn fat. Hope it helps and good luck.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:15:39 PM   
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ALLRIGHT ALTERSHOCH25 HERE WE GO,
FIRST I WANT TO THANK-YOU FOR REPLYING AND YES I THINK I HAVE BEEN POSTING EVERYWHERE!! LOL.User Posted Image LIKE I HAVEN'T ALLREADY BUT IM GOING TO GO INTO MORE DETAIL. HERE IS A TYPICAL DAY FOR THE LAST 6 WEEKS.
UP @ 4:15 TAKE A NON SYNTHETIC VITAMIN FOR WOMEN ONLY( IT SUPPOSEDLY RELEASES EVERY HOUR FOR 8 HRS.
OUT THE DOOR ON ON MY WAY TO THE GYM( CARDIO DAYS, STRAIGHT TO THE GYM) (WEIGHT DAYS, I DRINK A PROTEIN SHAKE BEFORE I GO)
GET TO THE GYM @ 5:00 AND LEAVE BY 6:00.
MY MEALS : BREAK-PROTEIN SHAKE, SNACK- 1/2C COTTAGE CHEESE WITH AN APPLE, LUNCH- CAN VARY BUT AN IDEA, TURKEY ON BROWN WITH LETTUCE, TOMATO & MUST. SNACK- 1 ORANGE, 2 HARD BOILED EGGS, SUPPER- CHILLI MADE WITH BISON 1-1/2 CUPS. SNACK- COOKIES N CREAM BODY FOR LIFE BAR.
I EAT 6 SOMETIMES 8 TIMES A DAY, ON AVERAGE 3 LITRES OF WATER A DAY. I LOVE MILK AND THATS ALL I DRINK IS SKIM MILK. I ALSO EAT ALOT OF NON FAT YOGART WITH PROTEIN. I EAT ALOT OF BERRIES AND AT THE END OF ALL THIS........ MY JEANS ARE STILL TIGHT AND AFTER 4 WEEKS, I STEP ON THE SCALE AND I GAIN A POUND. I DONT KNOW ABOUT YOU , BUT THAT JUST MADE ME GO ON AN EATING BINGE. THEN FELT LIKE ****.
OH AND IM ALSO IN BED BY 8:30 OR 9:00 AND I TAKE A REDLINE. I BOUGHT IT FROM GATORS GYM. I TAKE IT AS SOON AS I WAKE UP.
NOW WITH ALL THAT IN MIND, WHAT AM I DOING WRONG.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:25:17 PM   
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goodness, it sounds like your on point. The only thing I could possibly imagine keeping the weight from coming off is the carbs, but it doesn't seem the case. Whats your family history of weight like, heavy, light or kind of in the middle. Again, i don't know if you posted it, but your age also. All these things can factor impossible weight loss. What is your family history of hormonal problems like if any, diabetes ect.Another thing that could be the problem, depending on your age is thyroid imbalance. Things such as health issues would make it impossible also. I am just stretching here because your workout out plan sounds very good to me. Oh, and whats your resistance training like?  Let me know.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:31:56 PM   
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I KNOW, THIS IS CRAZY!! I KEEP THINKING MABE IM JUST IMPATIENT. I HAVE LEARNED THAT WEIGHT WATCHERS IS NO GOOD BUT I ALSO REMEMBERED THE SCALE GOING DOWN EVERY WEEK! ALLREADY BEEN TO MY DOCTOR, I WAS HOPING I HAD A THYROID PROBLEM, BUT I DON'T. IM 30. MABE I JUST NEED TO BE A LITLLE MORE STRICT. SHOULD I MABE CUT OUT THE WEIGHTS FOR A COUPLE OF WEEKS? JUST CONCENTRATE ON CARDIO? MY FAMILY GREW UP OWNING RESTAURANTS, DOES THIS ANSWER YOUR QUESTION? HA HA  I AM 5"10 AND I WEIGH 188. WHEN YOU LOOK AT ME IM NOT OBESE BUT I AM CHUNKY!! I HATE IT!  IM TIRED OF HIDING BEHIND HOODIES. I DID DOWNLOAD THE E-BOOK BY MARC DAVID. I SHOULD GET A CHANCE TO PRINT IT TOMORROW.
HEY , WHERE DO I GO TO GET THE INFO YOU SENT TO ME?

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:36:15 PM   
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oh, duh i totally missed that. Ok, if your doing weights and cardio at the same time, it makes it extremely hard for your body to both at the same time(burn fat or build muscle) If your taking in the protein your body will definitely make building the muscle a priority over burning fat. By the way that 1 pound you have gained was muscle, so you probably lost a little fat because muscle is actually heavier than fat. Heh, hit the cardio only and you should notice a huge difference, but don't completely abondon resistance training for a long period of time. When you have reached a sensible goal with weight loss return to weight training to keep your muscle development intact. Keep the diet plan and everything the same your doing fine on that part, but don't worry all your hard work was not in vain. All that new muscle you built will make burning the fat much easier and faster. Good luck and keep us posted.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 1:40:03 PM   
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COULD I LOSE BODY FAT IF I STICTLY DID 30 MINS/CARDIO 5 DAYS A WEEK AND FOLLOWED THE BODY FOR LIFE EATING PROGRAM???


Yes, you probably could.  The Body For Life diet is really pretty sound and balanced.  Nothing wrong with it.  But why give up weight training?  Muscle burns fat.  Having muscle is a good thing.  Besides, weight training strengthens the bones, reducing the risk for osteoporosis.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 2:15:08 PM   
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I dont mean to offend and i have no real backing here as im not a mod or anything, but typing in pure caps is kind of annoying, it sounds like a really strict maths teacher is hurling abuse at me...lol....



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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 4:54:41 PM   
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Sorry about that, im just not a big typer nor fast and sometimes it's easier when i dont have to think about caps on, caps off. lol
Sooner or later i'll learn not to --- anybody off! lol User Posted Image

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/26/2005 6:08:48 PM   
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seven pm or make a topic called BlueNitro he knows his ****, he has lost lots of weight, he has helped many, so have many other people here im just picking one person

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/27/2005 7:34:39 AM   
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Minotaur,
Thanks for the reply. Im one of those people that like to see the # on the scale go down. Also, i have a goal to be smaller(thiner) by christmas. Every year we have a company x-mas party and i am so tired of hiding behind a freakin' winter coat for my outfitUser Posted Image!!! I know im not going to be a size 3 but 20-25lbs i think is realistic and would give me enough of a boost to start feeling better about myself.

Now, one other thing i am confused on is, i have read that you will never get a flat stomach or a six pack unless you trim down the fat first.How true is that? I also dont want to be one of those women that are really thick and stocky.


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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/27/2005 7:42:38 AM   
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Hey, i was so proud of myself this morningUser Posted Image I did 30 mins of interval cardio on the treadmill!!! Im a little stiff but thats allright. Ithink that is what i am going to try for a couple of weeks, is body for life eating(strictly) and the cardio 5 days a week for 30 mins and just see what happens in 2 weeks. The worst that can happen, is it doesn't work and i come crying back to you guys for more ideas. My problem is that i have to start being a little more truthful to myself and stop nibbling here and there!!! I am now writing down all my meals to stay in check with that.
thanks again, whether it be advice, or just chatting it always makes me feel better. Take it day by day right!

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/27/2005 8:11:42 AM   
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I suggest you concentrate on losing fat first, both for your health and for your appearance.  One very good way to do this is to walk 90 minutes per day rather slowly (4.5 miles total) doing a sort of interval training -- go at a comfortable pace (maybe 17.5 min. miles) for four minutes and then shuffle along for one minute.  Recent studies have shown this to be maximally efficient at burning fat.  What you don't want to do is to get into an efficient rhythm amd start burning carbs.

The theory is that your body needs time to break down fat for energy.  The theory might be wrong but the results are solid.  Be sure to stay well hydrated.

This is a very poor way for muscle building or aerobic conditioning, but it is superb for losing fat.  There has been some surprising research done recently about walking, such as:  fat people tend to walk as fast as skinny/fit people.  Once you are at a good fat level, you will want to change your cardio approach completely.

At the same time, use light to moderate weight training and time your eating so that you don't lose muscle mass.  Be sure to get strength training for your abdonimal girdle, such as Pilates.  Get protein in conjunction with weight work.  About the worst thing you can do is go on a low-calorie low-fat diet like Weight Watchers and then go out and take a fast walk every day.  It will burn muscle and lead to yo-yoing -- you REALLY don't want to burn heart muscle.  At 90 minutes you shouldn't have to lower total calorie consumption to lose fat.  Lower the total time to 60 minutes and you'll need to watch calories.

You really have to put in the time, as the fat burn kicks in hard only after about 45 minutes.  Once again, this approach sucks for cardio fitness and muscle building, but it is great for losing fat without losing muscle.

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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/27/2005 9:31:05 AM   
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SmileThanks for the reply.
I do agree with you, but i only have aprox. 60 mins in the gym a day. See im up @ 4:15, out the door by 5:00, @ the gym @5:05 and im leaving by about 6:00am. Now are you saying that it's better to walk leisurly for 4 mins and then walk swiftly for 1 rather than walk swiftly for 1 min and then a fairly quick jog for 1 minUser Posted Image That's what i did this morning and boy did i work up a sweat!!! Also at this point, would i really care about losing a little bit of muscle?
O.K. i get that weight watchers is not goodUser Posted Image today all of my meals and snacks are back to the body for life.In the long run, its harder preparing but i enjoy all of the recipe's from bfl., but i dont count calories etc.
i just follow to a T what his recipes say.
so that's my story and unfortunately i have to stick with it.
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RE: PLS HELP,IM VERY CONFUSED! - 9/29/2005 7:37:18 PM   
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seven.

Your main culprit is probably stress. You need to relax and think positive..you will get where you want to be if you work at it. Studies have shown extra cortisol is secreted due to high levels of continuing stress..this chemical change has been linked to weight gain, specifically, in the abdominal region.

30 minutes of cardio is a moderately good plan..but how hard are you pushing your heart rate while you are doing your cardio?

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