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PH side effect thread - 10/13/2004 8:18:57 AM
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nickflnj
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I have thought about the idea of taking PH's but the problem is I'm too scared of the side effects. I'd like people to list what PH's they've taken and list any side effects experienced, or if you had none at all. Also, I'd like to hear some thoughts about possible reasons why you think side effects came about, such as "I took high dosage" or "I didn't take proper supplements off cycle", or if you thought to did everything perfectly and still got side effects, etc....this would help me alot in learning more about this stuff. Thanks.
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RE: PH side effect thread - 10/13/2004 8:54:16 AM
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BigJon
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I had a really bad temper when I took andro for 3 months during high school. I also blame it for me being 5'10.5 as opposed to the 6" I may have been. I want to take it again though because since I'm older my body and emotions will be more controlled.
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RE: PH side effect thread - 10/13/2004 10:52:41 AM
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Naviator
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I took Ergopharm 1-AD 3 morning, 3 night, and I was lethargic and pissy. If I felt like sex it was like pushing a big noodle into a keyhole. I got meeself some nice acne, too. I believe it was about a three week blast with a heavy dose of 6-OXO at the end. By the time I finished the 6-OXO I got sick and lost all my gains. It was good for something to make me smarter and poorer, but that's about it.
Methyl 1-Test is a much better experience. The first time was Legal Gear(I think), and it was unbelieveable on a 10mg capsule in the morning and one at night. Within a week I was gaining a pound a day, still energetic, good-natured, and building tents with my pants all the time. I now use IDS because of the cost, but I think the first stuff is more potent. I never go more than 15 capsules on a cycle and always at least two weeks off. Check your nuggets to make sure they are eggs and not garden peas, too. Now for the nasty side effects...
Cramps happen ALL THE TIME!! They hurt like my personal puppeteer thinks he's being cute. When your foot scrunches up on a motorcycle zipping down the highway you have a unique situation, ladies and gentlemen. I could be grunting out a set of heavies and stop dead because some unused extremity decides it wants to join the party.
Tightness is out of control because your tendons become steel cables. Ever had an itch in the middle of your back that put you in the looney bin? Well, now the itch on your shoulder or the small of your back will make the nice men in the white coats come a-runnin. Invest in one of those claw-on-a-stick things and don't plan on smell checking your feet if that's your thing.
During the first week your natural testosterone is still high, so plan on acting like that pit bull with the little pink thing hangin out. You'll be humping people's legs, chasing cars, and as soon as you smell women's deodorant your eyes turn red and you start to growl. Sound like fun? It's hard to be cool when you want to bust through a brick wall to get to the female on the other side.
I almost hurt myself because my strength increased so dramatically. The bones and cartilage do not develop at the same rate!!! Remember this!!! This is like dropping a Hemi 426 into a Geo Metro. If you are squatting super heavy and feel something in your back start to separate give the weight to the spotters an d go down. I **** you not, listen to me, cause some dumb **** out there is going to hurt himself pulling a stunt that I am warning about here and now. It's really motivating to be able to put 50lb onto your previous max and bust it 3 or 4 times, but trying to find out your ultimate ape power max is just bad headwork. Do not even f***in go there.
That's all, folks. Hope I helped. Choose wisely.
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RE: PH side effect thread - 10/13/2004 5:27:14 PM
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Weapon X
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19-nor by Ergopharm made my recovery go through the roof!! Even at really small dosages... it also leaned me out big time. Stopped taking it like the third or fourth week because of nipple sensitivity.
1-AD and 4-AD gave me the same feeling as the last 1-ad post... also gave me nipple sensitvity emiadetley.... may not have taken a long enough break after the 19-nor experience. Also, never really took the Anti-E precation... I belive some people are naturally prone to the nipple sensitivity deal.
Took a long time off from PH's because I was disgusted with the sides.... found a site that sells a research Nolvadex and ordered some. From there I went on a two week cycle of 1-TU by Nutrex with some really low doses of liquid Nolva just to be on the safe side... followed that two weeks with T-Bomb 2 (Contains tribulis and a bunch of Anti-E agents...) by MHP, 6-OXO, and ZMA. Took the 6-OXO for ten days and plan on using the T-Bomb 2 and ZMA for three weeks... so that's 2 weeks on and three weeks PCT. Awesome strength and aggression in my workout during those two weeks... a really slow and gradual decline of aggression, but most strenght remained. No sides reported except for a slight loss of libido during the end of the 2 weeks... picked up right away after starting PCT. This is a very conservative cycle and for those worried about libido problems you could even go with a over the counter libido aid, like Horny Goat Weed or something... sounds stupid, but it's good to have all your bases covered.
I am really curious bout the M1T myslef... from what I found on another site, someone wrote this when it first came out....
"Mehtyl 1 test is basically brand new. I try to be as much help as I can. It is a very harsh product on the body as far as prohormones go. Do not use more than 10mg per day unless your over 250 lbs. and even then I would wait till your second cycle before going to 20 mg. The nice thing about M1-T is the fact that it is inexpensive. BB.com has it for $45 for 80 tabs. Remember 80 tabs is 80 days worth!! But you will need other vitamins and supplements for overall body health. They will be as follows- milk thistle, NAC, potassium, hawthorne berry, coQ10, mybe saw palmetto. I will leave the dosages up to you. More info on bb.com. Expect much size and strength from this product, do not stay on for longer than 2 weeks. After the cycle make sure to get 6oxo in you right away, unless something better comes around by the time of your cycle. Also make sure to get some 4-AD in you at relatively high dosages to combat lethargy. Hope this helps and let me know about your results!!"
That's some good advice, because alot of the aids he recomends would take care of some of the sides.... potassium for the cramps, milk thisle for the liver, prostate aids and so forth. These are all things that can be found at any convenience store or whatever, so they might be good to research and pick up. Look forward to hearing some more stories... that last post had me laughing.
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RE: PH side effect thread - 10/14/2004 1:34:07 PM
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nickflnj
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Is 19-nor the same as nordiol? There are so many different names for this stuff, it's so confusing. BTW, thanks for the reviews.
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