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Friday, November 05, 2004 8:43 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 9 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: Low Protein Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 30 seconds between exercises, 1 minute between supersets Superset 1: Front Dumbbell Raises 25x12;30x10;40x6;45x5;30x14 Twising Dumbbell Press 50x12;60x10;65x5;70x7;50x12 Superset 2: Dumbbell Shrugs 70x12;80x10;85x8;95x8;80x15 Side Dummbell Lateral Raises 22x12;25x8;30x8;35x3;20x15 Superset 3: Arnold Press 30x12;35x10;30x8;40x7;30x14 Rear Dumbbell Raises 30x9;25x7;35x5;25x13;15x15 NOTES: I'm personally impressed with my dumbbell front raises. That is a lot more weight then I started out doing. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, November 05, 2004 8:48 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 9 Workout: Progresssive Load Diet: Low Protein Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 30 seconds between exercises; 1 minute between supersets Superset 1: Reverse Grip Barbell Curls 50x12;70x10;80x4;70x8;65x15 Cable Press Down 150x12;190x10;200x8;200x8;170x11 Superset 2: Twisting Dumbbell Curl 30x12;35x10;50x8;60x3;30x15 Close Grip Bench Press 135x12;135x10;155x8;175x6;135x8 Superset 3: Bent Leg Crunch 12,10,8,8;15 Lying Leg Raises 12;10;8;8;15 NOTES: Overall a good arm day. Nothing spectacular but good. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, November 05, 2004 10:56 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3Week 9 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: Low Protein Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 30 seconds between exercises, 1 minute between supersets Superset 1: Forward Dumbbell Lunges 60x10;65x10;70x4;55x8;35x15 Backward Dumbbell Lunges 35x12;40x10;45x8;40x8 Superset 2: Seated Calf Raises 90x12;125x10;150x8;175x6;90x15 Squats 225x12;245x10;245x8;265x8;135x15 Superset 3: Incline Calf Raises 270x12;270x10;360x8;450x8 Deadlifts 133x12;221x10;221x8;221x8 NOTES: Not doing the greatest on legs. Especially deadlifts. And holding those dumbbells with lunges is ANNOYING. But I do like it. I'm also typing this while on the phone with a telemarker. Just for doing some 90 minute presentation I could be a big winner! Or weiner. Not sure what this lady just said. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, November 05, 2004 11:14 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 4/Week 9 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: Low Protein Bodypart: Back Rest Periods: 30 seconds between exercises; 1 minute between supersets Superset 1: Close Grip Cable Row 190x12;200x8;220x6;230x5 Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 137x12;150x6;150x8;162x6;125x9 Superset 2: Straight Arm Pulldown 140x12;150x10;170x6;180x5;120x12 Close Grip Lat Pulldown 112x12;125x10;150x7;162x5;112x15 Superset 3: Twisting Dumbbell Row 60x12;70x10;75x8;85x4;50x15 Assisted Wide Grip Chin Ups 150x9;160x6;160x8;140x8;140x10 NOTES: These back workouts kill me! I sure wish I could do regular pull-ups but after what I've been doing there is just no way. I'm forced to use the assist machine. Once I tried and I only got like 4 out. Which was too little. There is no doubt thought that I'm a lot stronger in my back. And that is one of my favorite bodyparts to work anyway. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, November 05, 2004 12:00 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 5/Week 9 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: LowProtein Bodypart: Chest/Abs Rest Periods: 30 seconds between exercises; 1 minute between supersets Superset 1: Dumbbell Pullovers 70x12;80x10;90x8;100x4;70x13 Incline Dumbbell Press 70x10;75x10;85x8;90x6;60x12 Superset 2: Dumbbell Flyes 35x12;45x7;50x5;60x5;30x15 Bench Press 155x4;155x7;185x5;185x6;135x4 Superset 3: Exer-Ball Dumbell Crunch 10x12;10;10;25x8;25x8 Hanging Leg Raises 12;10;8;8;15 NOTES: Absoultey fantastic dumbbell presses. Doing the 90's for 6 reps after all I did before, was like the old Max-OT days. And flyes at 60lbs was amazing. My arms were only slightly bent and the stretch was phenomenal. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, November 05, 2004 2:51 PM
Sounds like one grueling routine...I'll be starting it on Monday  Just wondering, how hard is the protein deprivation? What would be a sample meal plan for a day? Thanks!
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Friday, November 05, 2004 3:00 PM
It's different. I felt "empty" and not as fulll but not so bad. And not any weaker then normal. Jeff outlines the whole thing in his book as to the why's of doing this. The hardest part really was just staying away from the things I was used to eating all the time. However, it's not so hard. I just did more carbs, adding in a lot of nuts (peanuts, almonds) and had Thai food and Mexican. Honestly, it wasn't that bad nor that hard. I Just had to concentrate. Put away the shakes, and not eat meat, fish or chicken. I upped my fruit intake big time. That was helpful in many ways. Breakfast: Oats, orange juice, banana Snack 1: Fruit, almonds Lunch: Thai or Mexican (noodles) and fruit Snack 2: Fruit, peantus Post-Workout: Protein shake Dinner: Noodles, salad Snack 3: Fruit, nuts I had peanut butter sandwiches as well. That was a nice switch. And I lowered myself to eating Top Rama like the college days. I actually liked that.
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Friday, November 05, 2004 3:22 PM
I guess I'll know exactly what it's like in 6 weeks  Best of luck to you, I'll be following your journal  .
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Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:42 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 10 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein + 1 Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Front Dumbbell Raises 25x12;30x10;40x8 Barbell Military Press 95x12;115x10;135x8 Superset 2: Dumbbell Shrugs 70x12;95x10;90x8 Side Dummbell Lateral Raises 25x12;20x10;30x8 Superset 3: Dip Bar Shrug BWx12;10;8 Arnold Press 35x12;40x10;50x8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Thursday, November 11, 2004 7:49 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 10 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Barbell Preacher Curl 75x12;75x10;95x8 Overhead Cable Extensions 150x12;160x10;140x8 Superset 2: Twisting Dumbbell Curl 45x12;50x7;60x6 Lying French Press 27x12;40x10;45x8 Superset 3: Exer-Ball Dumbbell Crunch 20x12;20x10;25x8 Full Rotation Knee Raises 12;10;8 NOTES: For the High Protein +1 I asked Jeff what he meant about this. And it turns out, what he suggested was to get a liquid amino and take it 3 times a day for an added protein boost. So that's just what I did. I found Twinlabs Amino at Supplements101 and I've been taking 3 tablespoon fulls every day. Citrus taste. Not bad. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:09 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3 Week 10 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Leg Extensions 140x12;160x10;200x8 Lying Leg Curl 120x12;140x10;150x8 Superset 2: Seated Calf Raises 115x12;125x10;150x8 Deadlifts 177x12 Superset 3: Hack Squat Raises 270x12;360x10;430x8 Seated Leg Press 360x12;450x10;470x8 NOTES: Tried the leg press tonight instead of squats just for a change up. And deadlifts. Without a belt and no grips, it's nearly impossible to do what I could. My grip wants to give out sometimes before I'm ready. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:13 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 4/Week 10 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Back Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Reverse Back Extensions 10x12;25x10;35x8 Close Grip Lat Pulldown 137x12;150x10;162x8 Superset 2: Close Grip Cable Row 190x12;200x10;210x8 Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 137x9;150x7;125x8 Superset 3: Straight Arm Pushdown 120x12;130x10;150x8 Assisted Chin Ups 110x12;100x10;90x8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:19 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 5/Week 10 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Chest/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Incline Dumbbell Flye 30x12;40x10;50x8 Flat Bench Press 155x12;185x10;225x8 Superset 2: Dumbbell Pullover 65x12;80x10;90x8 Smith Press to Neck 135x12;155x10;205x8 Superset 3: Exer-Ball Dumbell Crunch 10x12;25x10;35x8 Knee Raises 9;10;8 NOTES: Love those Smith Presses to the Neck! I know some who hate them. But I happen to find them interesting and I feel the burn! Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:25 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein + 1 Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Front Dumbbell Raises 25x12;35x10;40x8 Arnold Press 35x12;45x10;55x8 Superset 2: Dumbbell Shrugs 80x12;90x10;100x8 Side Dummbell Lateral Raises 25x12;30x10;35x5 Superset 3: Rear Dumbbell Raises 30x12;35x10;30x8 Twisting Dumbbell Press 50x12;60x10;65x8 NOTES: I want to put in some good Nav type verbage but I just don't have the verbal karate skills he does. So I will fall back to my shoulder were not sore but damn I did alright. Yawn. I think Nav has a cool generator. His Optimum posts are hella funny. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:32 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Dumbbell Preacher Curl 30x12;35x10;45x7 Reverse Grip Cable Press 30x12;50x10;70x8 Superset 2: Hammer Curl 30x12;40x10;45x8 Lying Barbell French Press 85x12;85x10;105x8 Superset 3: Bent Leg Crunch 12;10x8 Lying Leg Raises 12;10;8 NOTES: Hammer curls are sort of fun to do when you haven't done them in a while. Turns out, I'm doing better with them then I did on a prior program. One thing I don't like about this particualr phase is the standing around. So much rest. But I can obviously do a lot more weight. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:45 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3 Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Leg Extensions 160x12;170x10;200x8 Lying Leg Curl 110x12;140x10;150x8 Superset 2: Seated Calf Raises 90x12;135x10;160x8 Squats 245x12;275x10;275x8 Superset 3: Incline Calf Raises 160x12;340x10;340x8 Deadlifts 135x12;225x10;275x8 NOTES: Nice squats! Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 01, 2004 7:46 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 4/Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Back Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Close Grip Cable Row 180x12;190x10;210x8 Assisted Wide Arm Chin-Up 100x12;90x10;80x8 Superset 2: Hanging Row 115x12;135x10;145x8 Close Grip Lat Pulldown 137x10;125x10;112x8 Superset 3: Twisting Dumbbell Row 70x12;75x10;65x8 Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 112x12;112x10;125x8 NOTES: Not very impressive numbers on the close grip pulldown. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Thursday, December 02, 2004 12:00 PM
I think Nav has a cool generator. His Optimum posts are hella funny. Glad my tribulations serve to amuse others. Thanks, bro.
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Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:13 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 5/Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Chest/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Incline Dumbbell Flye 35x12;45x10;50x8 Incline Bench Press 135x12;185x8;205x7 Superset 2: Dumbbell Pullover 70x12;80x10;90x8 Weighted Incline Pushup 12;10;8 Superset 3: NOTES: Looks like a no-ab day. When you hit the time limit, that's it. I needed to pay a little more attention to Mr. StopWatch. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Thursday, December 02, 2004 6:17 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 11 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein + 1 Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Internal Dumbbell Rotation 25x12;30;10;20x8 Arnold Press 45x12;50x10;60x8 Superset 2: Dumbbell Shrugs 80x12;90x10;95x8 Cross Cable Lateral Raises 30x12;20x10;30x8 Superset 3: Rear Dumbbell Raises 30x12;25x10;35x8 Twisting Dumbbell Press 60x12;65x10;70x8 NOTES: Don't like cross cable raises for some reason. Not my fav. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, December 03, 2004 7:27 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 12 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Preacher Curl 90x12;100x10;110x8 Cable Pressdown 90x12;100x10;110x8 Superset 2: Close Grip Chin Up 8;8;7 Close Grip Bench Press 135x12;155x10;175x8 Superset 3: Exer-Ball Crunches 12;10 Lying Leg Raises 12;10 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, December 03, 2004 7:30 AM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3 Week 12 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Leg Extensions 150x12;170x10;200x8 Backward Dumbbell Lunge 40x12;50x10;60x8 Superset 2: Seated Calf Raises 90x12;135x10;160x8 Deadlifts 177x12;268x10;268x8 Superset 3: Incline Calf Raises 180x12;360x10;540x8 Squats 225x12;275x10;295x8 NOTES: Much better deads this time around. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:32 PM
damn man, already week 12? it seems like i read this 2 weeks ago :P
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Wednesday, December 08, 2004 4:41 PM
jeff anderson said, Stick with me for a minute and I'll explain. You see, my wife was watching Oprah's show and I just, well…uh…happened to be walking by (no…really!) when I heard a doctor say something that finally turned the light on. He was discussing weight loss and the drawbacks of "starvation diets". The fact is that when people try to lose weight by reducing their calories to extreme measures, their body actually responds by storing more fat in an attempt to survive literal starvation! he said that the muscle grows bigger the same way your metoblism works, some kind of confusing the muscle thing, i cant really find what he exactly said. He says he found a totally dofferent way to grow muscle but what im confused about is that this program isnt any different than any other program : / I dont see where he is trying to confuse the muscle that relates wit the metablism stuff. Does anyone see it? or was it just some quote to get peoples attention and make the reader get curious...
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Wednesday, December 08, 2004 7:53 PM
It's to get you interested of course! And it's different. Look at Nav's journal. Look at this one. It's different from the other programs I've tried. It is confusing (muscle confusion) no doubts. Along with diet and such. It has very unique points that I've seen in no other program.
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Saturday, December 11, 2004 1:13 PM
11Dec04 197 lbs 17.5% BF (I think) LBM 166.1 lbs BF 30.9 lbs total muscle gain 9.3 lbs total fat gain 1.7 lbs neck 16 in chest 42 waist 35 arms 16 thighs 25 calves 15.5 I'm at my highest weight and the lowest body fat I've had since bulking. My guess for the whole muscle/fat thing is this... During my carb phase I messed up. Shortly after I started doing double cardio each day. But when I started this program I was 186 lbs at 15.7% body fat. Corrected the body fat percentage once I read the chart correctly.
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Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:02 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 4/Week 12 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Back Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Close Grip Cable Row 180x12;210x10 Wide Arm Lat Pulldown 125x12;137x10 Superset 2: Hanging Row 100x12;110x10;110x8 Close Grip Lat Pulldown 137x10;150x10;162x8 Superset 3: Straight Arm Pulldown 140x12;150x10;80x8 Assisted Chin-Ups 90x12;90x6;70x8 NOTES: Again. Never thought I'd need the assisted chin-up machine but after this program, I just can't do any good pull-ups towards the end without a little help. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:25 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 5/Week 12 Workout: Hyper-Adaptive Diet: High Protein +1 Bodypart: Chest/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 3 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Dumbbell Flye 35x12;45x10;50x8 Incline Bench Press 135x12;185x10;205x8 Superset 2: Low Cross Cable Raise 30x12;40x10;50x8 Smith Press to Neck 135x12;155x10;185x8 Superset 3: Exer-ball Crunches 10x12;25x10;35x8 Lying Leg Raises 12;10;8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 13 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 2 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Cable Front Raises 60x12;70x10;80x5 Twising Dumbbell Press 60x12;70x9;80x8 Superset 2: Rear Dumbbell Raises 35x9;40x10;45x5 Side Dummbell Lateral Raises 30x6;30x8;30x8 Superset 3: Dumbbell Shrug 90x12;100x9;110x7 Arnold Press 50x9;60x8;65x8 NOTES: Now Arnold Press number impress me! 65 lbs at 8 reps, with good form is damn good for that movement. It's not exactly easy. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 12 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 2 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Dumbbell Concentration Curl 22x12;37x10;45x10 Cable Pressdown 150x12;200x10;150x5 Superset 2: Barbell Curl 95x11;115x6;115x6 Close Grip Bench Press 155x12;185x9;205x7 Superset 3: Twisting Crunches 12;10;8 Lying Leg Raises 12;10;8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:50 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3 Week 12 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 2 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Leg Extensions 140x12;200x10;205x8 Lying Leg Curl 110x12;140x10;160x5 Superset 2: Hack Squat Calf Raises 270x12;360x10;450x8 Squats 225x12;275x10;315x8 Superset 3: Incline Calf Raises 360x12;450x10 Stiff-Leg Deadlifts 205x10;225x8;275x8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, January 05, 2005 3:52 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 4/Week 12 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Back Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 2 minutes between supersets NOTES: This was like the other skipped workout. I got the stinking flu and there was no way I could do this. So I skipped it and will catch up where I left off when I get better. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, January 07, 2005 2:11 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 5/Week 13 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Chest/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 2 minutes between supersets Superset 1: Dumbbell Flye 35x12;45x10;55x6 Bench Press 155x12;185x10;245x4 Superset 2: Incline Dumbbell Flyes 30x12;40x10;50x6 Incline Dumbbell Press 70x8;80x8;95x4 Superset 3: Bent Leg Crunch 12;10;8 Full Rotation Knee Raises 5;6;3 NOTES: By far, it's the worst full rotation knee raises ever. I'm just having a difficult time at this part in the workout keeping my grip. I'm going to use the hooks or the straps next time. As I weight more, it's just a ****trying to do the knee raises, without swinging, all the while having my grip fail. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, January 07, 2005 2:14 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 1/Week 14 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Shoulders Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 90 seconds between supersets Superset 1: Cable Front Raises 70x8;80x8;90x4;75x6 Arnold Press 45x12;60x8;60x8;50x8 Superset 2: Rear Dumbbell Raises 25x12;30x10;35x8;50x4 Side Dummbell Lateral Raises 25x12;30x5;30x8;35x5 Superset 3: Dumbbell Shrug 70x12;85x10;100x8;110x7 Barbell Press 135x8;135x10;155x2;155x5 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Friday, January 07, 2005 4:21 PM
Howdy dude! Been a long time (my fault!). How's your body responding compared to MAX-OT and TP-PT?? Nice to see your site is kicking A$$ as usual.
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Friday, January 07, 2005 8:37 PM
Just as well but different. I don't have the same strenght gains I did with Max-OT but I do feel I'm doing better each time I do a week. More weight, more reps. I also feel that on the OA program, I'm getting more cardio in becuase of the reliance on supersets. Something that Max-OT did not do. I never personally tried the TP-PT. But it sounds similar in the supersets and increased reps. So that by a particular week you are feeling the fatigue! It has been a long time. Too long. Good to see you back. Thanks for the compliment about DB. I think it is doing quite well.
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Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:25 PM
Hi, mda1125, I'm also following the OA program. I just started it last week, and now I'm nearly finished on the second week of my progressive load. I've started the program a few times in the past, about 2-3 times, but due to certain inconsistancies in my life, family problems etc I wasn't able to keep it up. Nor was my diet up to scratch. Anyway, like I said, I started again last week following the program strictly, with a perfect diet and perfect text book form for each exercise. I've already gained 2 pounds of muscle in the first week and I'm due for another weigh in in two days at the end of the second week. Anyway, congrats on following the routine this far. I haven't read all five pages yet, but what has your diet etc been like for these 12 weeks? Have you been consistant with it? How many days have you skipped? etc etc. And how much have you noticed size increase during the hyper-adaptive cycles? And what have your protein deprivation cycles been like? Also, are you folllowing this to gain weight or maintain your weight? I'm looking to gain at least 2 stone before August before I go away. That leaves me just around 8 months. Nice work on the journal by the way, I'll also post in it regular, that way we can keep each other updated. I got to go now anyway, I'll post some more tomorrow when I got some more time. TLS
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Thursday, January 13, 2005 2:40 PM
Thanks! I've been a bit behind in updating what I have written down in my notebook but I plan on finishing up. I'm almost done with the 18 weeks. I've been very consistent. I've only done the exercises listed. And I've only skipped 2 workouts. As far as the diet goes. I wish I had used FitDay more often and tracked my eating. I did well during the bulk phase but screwed up the low protein phase. I'm now doing a lot better on that low protein phase towards the end of this 18 week program. I've noticed the most size on the high protein +1 right after a low protein phase. I've noticed my best strength increase on the low protein, progressive load phase. Following each phase to gain weight. I recommend you start your own journal in the Online Training Journal forum. Like Navigator has. This thread is primary as an ebook review and for any Q&As that people have about a workout or the program. It takes dedication but so far, it's been well worth it.
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Friday, January 14, 2005 5:45 AM
Hmmm. I hate repeating myself. Why does everyone keep calling me Navigator? A navigator is a guy that people hire when they're too incompetent to know where they're going. Naviators don't need to ask for directions. They would rather have that extra 200lb for fuel to go fast. This is getting to be a pretty popular program. Pwolf is starting it and I've had several folks inquire about it. That's what happens when you have a program that actually works. People do your advertising for you.
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Friday, January 14, 2005 12:37 PM
I'm glad this program is becoming more in the open. As of now, it only has a few thousand cult followers and most of the internet world haven't heard of it, read it, or have just dismissed it as another scam of a sort. I'm going to start a journal too, I'm only going to post my measurements up, weight etc. I'm not going to bother will each workouts sets, reps etc because that's not I want to report. I want to report just how much size and muscle gain is possible with this program, and in what time space. It'll be more of a diary for me so that I can keep track of things really.
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Monday, January 17, 2005 5:35 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 2/Week 14 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Arms/Abs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises; 90 seconds between supersets Superset 1: Preacher Curl 85x12;90x10;105x7;125x5 Reverse Grip Cable Pressdown 60x12;70x10;70x8;80x8 Superset 2: Twisting Dumbbell Curl 45x10;50x8;55x4;60x4 Lying Barbell French Press 95x12;115x9115x6;115x6 Superset 3: No Abs NOTES: Seems to me that at the end of major body part workouts, I sure do miss a lot of direct ab work. Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Monday, January 17, 2005 5:39 PM
Optimum Anabolics Day 3 Week 14 Workout: Progressive Load Diet: High Protein Bodypart: Legs Rest Periods: 1 minute between exercises, 90 seconds between supersets Superset 1: Leg Extensions 160x12;190x10;200x8;205x8 Lying Leg Curl 110x12;120x10;140x8;160x4 Superset 2: Seated Calf Raises 90x12;125x10;135x8;155x7 Squats 225x12;245x10;245x8;265x8 Superset 3: Incline Calf Raises 270x12;360x10;360x10 Deadlifts 225x10;225x10;275x8 NOTES: Where Did I Get This Routine? Optimum Anabolics Program by Jeff Anderson
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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 8:55 AM
Missing a Deadlift and an Incline Calf set. Must be a typo, right?
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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 10:24 AM
No typo. Checked my log book. I ran out of time so I bailed. I do remember Jeff saying that if you hit the 60 minute mark, you'd been idle too long. No matter what. Stop what you are doing and leave. I ended up talking to a guy about my deadlift form. After that 3rd set, I opted to quit since I had chatted for like 10 minutes about it.
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Friday, February 18, 2005 8:26 PM
<Smoke Clears> Let's face it,... Anybody who has followed my journal knows that I've been behind in posting my daily workouts. And while that is no excuse I can assure you that I've kept very detailed notes in the actual printouts I took to the gym along with staged measurements. If you have read thru this journal, I think you get the idea of what kind of program it is. Naviator's journal is similar. It's hardcore! So let's go to the bottom line: Week 1 Measurements: 186 lbs 15.7% BF (I think) LBM 156.8 lbs BF 29.2 lbs total muscle gain N/A total fat gain N/A neck 16 in chest 42 waist 34 arms 16 thighs 24 calves 15.5 Week 18 Measurements: 199 lbs 15.7% BF (I think) LBM 167.8 lbs BF 31.2 lbs total muscle gain 11.0 lbs total fat gain 2.0 lbs neck 16 in chest 42.5 waist 35.5 arms 16.25 thighs 25 calves 15.7 Total Gain: 11 lbs of muscle and 2 lbs of fat Notes: This is not a joke. I've gotten several comments in the last stages of this program from people I work out with every day. 80% of them are like "dude... wtf are you doing. You have gotten a lot bigger." One guy who is yoked, I was joking that I was "on the juice." He said it looks like you've been training pretty hard to me. Another comment was that "I was ripping out of my skin." Sure, these were over the top comments but bottom line is, there is a very noticible change. I can tell as well. My strenght is up. I've gained weight even with adding cardio 3-4x a week I'm still increasing. I've also printed out another full journal and I'm doing the program again.
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Monday, February 28, 2005 12:18 PM
Is there any way you could give an example diet for your high protein and high protein+1 phases?
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Monday, February 28, 2005 12:49 PM
Try looking at my FitDay journal between the entry times. I thought I was pretty good about entering that.
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Wednesday, March 02, 2005 10:50 AM
I looked at your journal, but I don't think it keeps data that far back or something because it wasn't there. No big deal. I had another question. In some of your exercise the reps are like 12,10,7,5 or 12,10,6,4 and I was just wondering what was the target reps 12,10,8,8 or was it lower than that? Also, I am a new member and really enjoy your site. It has a lot of great information on it. Keep up the good posts.
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Wednesday, March 02, 2005 1:44 PM
It was 12,10,8,8 and sometimes 15! The program goes thru stages of progressive loads and then hyper-adaptive. So you aren't always going heavy and to failure the whole 18 weeks. Nor are you always doing so many damn sets and reps.
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Wednesday, March 09, 2005 11:45 AM
Which, in your mind, is a more effective program? Max-OT or Optimum Anabolics?
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Saturday, March 12, 2005 1:13 PM
Hard to say I've used both. And I wouldn't give up either. Max-OT was very helpful in getting me to shorten my workouts and get stronger. Optimum Anabolics took that to different level with supersets and variable rest periods. Maybe think of it not in terms of more effective but print out both and cycle between the two. I wouldn't want to just keep doing either of them indefinately. Variety is the key. They are both excellent programs.
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Wednesday, April 27, 2005 7:45 PM
This is after the Optimum Anabolics program. I am on my 2nd time but just fended off a nasty cold. I'm 189 lbs in this picture and I've lost a good handful of fat around my mid-second in the back. Can't see from this picture but I grab daily. [image]local://2/FE96B3F9C0174B5AADBE619963DB6FFC.JPG[/image]
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Thursday, April 28, 2005 2:23 AM
Nice man, thats how i want to look, but i think the face surgery will be costly
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Thursday, April 28, 2005 8:11 PM
I still need to drop a few lbs of fat.. but overall.. I'm very happy. Face surgery is getting cheaper. I'd just opt for the body, leave the face and go for a full body wax! Have you tried this program yet? Or read Naviator's journal as well?
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Friday, April 29, 2005 2:26 AM
Not yet, but I have bought the program, Its just a matter of deciding when i want to take a break like it recommends, and read the book and dedicate myself to it, I read through navs journal, but not all of it, Right not i am deciding i need to work on burning fat, so as of today I'm trying to eat 2200 calories, and 158 grams of protein, i am changing from high weight low rep, to med weight high rep, and i will be adding cardio in, when i'm not tired, and on the weekend when i am usually bored. I think I might track my progress. Which thermogenic's do you recommend?
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Friday, April 29, 2005 8:57 AM
Last one I tried and liked was the Avant Labs H.E.A.T. Stack.
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Monday, May 02, 2005 6:49 AM
what is grabbing? -- - --- - Can't see from this picture but I grab daily.
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MDA, what kind of supplements were you on?
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Thursday, May 12, 2005 12:06 PM
Creatine Protein (Muscle Milk) Fish oil Multi-vitamin Glucosamine Saw Palmetto
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Sunday, May 22, 2005 9:04 PM
Hello I Just received my Optimum Anabolic e-book. It sure seems like a lot of fat to be consuming. For myself it’s 115g of fat per day, my weight is 215 lb. are you following the diet as set forth in the e-book? Thank’s Sonny
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