Oly lifting

So I wasnt excited to see according to the chart that shows where youre at on all of the core lifts (beginner, intermediate, advanced, elite) said that I was at the advanced level for everything except my clean, which wasnt even close.  225 when it should be around 275.  I know its just a chart but this definatly shows that I have more strength than Ive learned to use in my cleans.  I want to start working on them and getting serious with my oly lifts but its so weird getting the form down.  Im getting a trainer to help me with them but I think his knowledge is limited as hes a bodybuilder and probably just learned this stuff in college or something but doesnt have any actual experience with it.  Is there anyone who knows alot about oly lifting that could critique a video I put up or have knowledge about how they train?  Ive read alot that they do alot of sessions per week, training everyday sometimes twice a day.   Its summer, Im definatly up for training twice a day, I can even do cleans in my basement and wont have to drive out to the gym for a 2nd session.  I just really wanna get my clean up.

Im thinking about checking out the strenghtmill forums too, I saw a whole section for oly lifting on there.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

I'm not good with olympic lifts personally. But if I were in your shoes I'd go to strength mill and ask Rippetoe for a critique.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

ahhh cleanssss, love them man, do you power or hang? its all about form, you should post a video up if you can

5 RM
Bench Press: 240 lbs
Hang Clean: 225 lbs
16 yrs old
190 lb

goal bench by end of football season : 285

Cleans are awesome, the last month or two i've really been liking them. Like THS said, so much about form. Yeah, they do do alot of volume, because there isn't really an eccentric motion, so they can lift more frequently. But I don't think that would effect you since i'm guessing your still going to do mostly non olympic lifts? Just add it in a couple times a week.

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

in florida highschools we have to compete by doing a C&J so ive done quite a bit of it (although its my major weakness) so there is a chance I and some of my friends could give you some advice after watching your form. Just post some videos and we will see what we should do. Also are you using a hook grip when you do them?

Will do.  I mean, my forms not horrible, but its not on point.  Ill try to get one up tomoro or the day after.

I wanna do them every day, even if it slows down my recovery from squats and deadlifts.  I need to get my speed-strength on par with my absolute strength.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

oh and you squat clean right? You can do more weight that way and bounce out of the bottom.

I would personally post on Strengthmill and ask rippetoe. Within the next year I plan on doing that for all my lifts if I can get a hold of a video camera.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

I think your best bet would be to have someone work on your form in person as opposed to a video critique.  The trainer sounds like a good idea.

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rollingstone where can I find this chart I'm interested in seeing it?

http://www.exrx.net/Tes...ng/StrengthStandards.htm

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

RollingStone


http://www.exrx.net/Tes...ng/StrengthStandards.htm

Woah that has put me in my place :(

Press: I could hit advanced
Squat: between intermediate and advanced
Deadlift: between int. and advanced
Clean: Just above intermediate =/
Bench: between int. and advanced

i wanna get advanced in everything within the next 1-2 years and try to hit elite in most by the time im 30 :D

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

Thanks stone. Man that chart is brutal

http://www.crossfit.com/cf-info/faq.html#General10

World class coaching, theres "worlds fastest lift" - the snatch, and "worlds strongest lift" - the clean and jerk. There both excellent dvd's.
 
For a good trainer I would think your best bet would be to contact a local weightlifting federation and ask them for some recommendations

"No citizen has a right to be an amateur in the matter of physical
training...what a disgrace it is for a man to grow old without ever seeing the
beauty and strength of which his body is capable."

GingerBetty

RollingStone


http://www.exrx.net/Testing/WeightLifting/StrengthStandards.htm

Woah that has put me in my place :(

press:novice
bench:intermediate
squat: might be able to get intermediate
deadlift:novice at best that is sad.
clean:novice easy
 
but I am really close to a lower class where the numbers would be better..still deissapointed..w/e.

Goals by end of 2009:
Bench 205
Squat 255 ATG
Squat Clean 185

"There is no elevator to success, you must take the stairs."

Nm0ney34


Press: I could hit advanced
Squat: between intermediate and advanced
Deadlift: between int. and advanced
Clean: Just above intermediate =/
Bench: between int. and advanced

i wanna get advanced in everything within the next 1-2 years and try to hit elite in most by the time im 30 :D

The elite numbers are ridiculous goals: lifetime goals id say, but ima try and get them sometime in my early-mid twenties.

327 Clean? dayum.  Thats a ****-ton to clean.  If I could do that...Id be so happy with myself.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

yeah cleaning over 300, just makes me flinch atm.

but damn, just imagining the feeling of being able to clean over 300...

im aiming for 235, more if I can next time I max. Thinking about doing it again in about 3-4 weeks before I start the 20 rep squat program.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"