Novedex XT bros.

Anybody use this or have an unbiased opinion about it?

Share your thoughts...

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

Just picked a bottle up. Need to get through my cycle of HDROL. Then onto that. Will be a few weeks, but i'll let you know.

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mav, I thought we went over this...

no lol. tribulus.
i switched, i want to take this, my bad. i am really wondering what the cycle is on this stuff, WD.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

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no lol. tribulus.
i switched, i want to take this, my bad. i am really wondering what the cycle is on this stuff, WD.

 
This is where I got the info on the cycle
http://www.buildingbrawn.com/index.php?SubvendorID=320&ProductID=840011
 

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I predict it does a whole lot of nothing for you but take your money. Let me know if I am wrong though. I think you would benifit from MStak much more.

So now you ARE suggesting it? MStak, that is. I just need to compare the ingredients, but they both seem to have alike properties??

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

You were asking about stak, I think you should take Mstak.

Your constant interest with all these test boosters and such sparked me to research this...

I found some interesting things, I got this off another site...maybe take it into consideration...

"Novedex XT, which contains ATD, definately needs to be tapered down. If you don't, you will get an estrogen rebound effect that could possibly give you gyno. Also, I wouldn't go above 50 mg of ATD (~2 caps of Novedex) daily. If you take more you could eliminate most estrogen in your body which is fvcking terrible (scientifically speaking).

When I took ATD, libido loss was slight at 50mg ED. If I was single, I probably wouldn't have given a sh*t. I ended up taking bulk maca extract at 9 g ED (upon the gf's request) and that seemed to take care of the problem.
If you decide to run a cycle of Novedex XT, here is what I'd recommend. For a one bottle, 4 week cycle:
Week 1-3 => 2 caps daily
Week 4 => 1 cap daily"

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

NMoney- I thought this stuff promoted Libido? I just take an interest because it is interesting that there is legal stuff out there that can put your testosterone levels sky high. I just thought this stuff was okay considering is just boosting your natural level, but so does regular Trib and ZMA. I wonder how much significant the difference is between the two.

ALso, Novadex is promoted as a PCT so, it should lower Estrogen levels, not raise them???Correct??

Tribulus does not have the same estrogen effects as you mentioned Novadex eh?

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

NMoney- I thought this stuff promoted Libido? I just take an interest because it is interesting that there is legal stuff out there that can put your testosterone levels sky high. I just thought this stuff was okay considering is just boosting your natural level, but so does regular Trib and ZMA. I wonder how much significant the difference is between the two.

ALso, Novadex is promoted as a PCT so, it should lower Estrogen levels, not raise them???Correct??

Tribulus does not have the same estrogen effects as you mentioned Novadex eh?

 
Thats the way I read it. He did state It was someone elses post he found. So who knows how accurate it is??

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Yea WD. I have been looking at this product for a while now. I take an interest in Test Boosters, I dunno, I just do. I have researched a lot of them, along with PHs too. Am I going to ever take a PH, MAYBE when I am 24 or 25. If that. I was just interested in a product that can raise test levels naturally, and has no drawbacks, and Novedex seems to be the one. Tribulus has worked for most, but not in terms of gains or weight, but just a more potent sex drive lol. Novedex seems to be the safe and most used natural test. booster, that is why I take an interest in it. I have looked at Mstak as jeep mentioned, but I think Novedex is the best product for NT Boosters IMO. I was just asking input about the product and if you have heard about side effects.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

Your constant interest with all these test boosters and such sparked me to research this...

I found some interesting things, I got this off another site...maybe take it into consideration...

"Novedex XT, which contains ATD, definately needs to be tapered down. If you don't, you will get an estrogen rebound effect that could possibly give you gyno. Also, I wouldn't go above 50 mg of ATD (~2 caps of Novedex) daily. If you take more you could eliminate most estrogen in your body which is fvcking terrible (scientifically speaking).

When I took ATD, libido loss was slight at 50mg ED. If I was single, I probably wouldn't have given a sh*t. I ended up taking bulk maca extract at 9 g ED (upon the gf's request) and that seemed to take care of the problem.
If you decide to run a cycle of Novedex XT, here is what I'd recommend. For a one bottle, 4 week cycle:
Week 1-3 => 2 caps daily
Week 4 => 1 cap daily"

don't them make something that keeps that from happening?

hell, why not go ahead and buy viraloid and 17 HD?  haha

Yea Boomer. Novedex does not have any ATP in it. It can't. It is a PCT. Those are concocted to lower estrogen levels...hmmm

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

ok lemme try to explain this...

First it is not marketed as a PCT, some people however have used it in their PCT. It is marketed as a standalone cycle.

Nolvedex is an estrogen blocker, IT LOWERS ESTROGEN...the whole reason I posted that quote is because it is important.

there are 3 ingredients in Nolvedex xt

1. 3-hydroxy-4-androstene-6,17-dione—also known as 3-OHAT (in the form of a THP ether)
2. 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione—also known as "ATD"
3. Hesperitin—a flavonoid


See atd? companys like to reword things to sound like they are something else...

the whole issue of gyno is what COULD happen to someone. If you take 4 pills of this stuff every night, you can essentially wipe nearly all of the estrogen out of your body. You then cold turkey, and the issue of gyno has a good chance to pop up.

he talks about tapering, which would mean say week 1 - 4 pills, week 2- 3 pills, week 3 - 2pills, week 4 - 1pill.

but in the above post is just a recommended cycle, of only taking 2pills for most of the cycle, so you dont totally eliminate your estrogen...

I read about a lot of this stuff. I was on the brink of taking some stuff like 2 years ago but decided not to. Even when taking stuff like this, you need to make sure you get your facts.

You can use this as an estrogen blocker/test booster by itself. Maybe gain a few noticeable pounds, but if you dont take precautions it could all just be a waste.

this can also be used in PCT for something not very strong.

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

you are awful young to be taking a test booster.
 
But w/e, if you're gonna do it you might as well get some advice.

Money- We are talking about the same thing right...Gaspari's Novedex XT?? I did not think it has andro in it, weird...

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

Same thing, yes sir

I know there is also nolvadex, different things.

Im not telling you to not take it, just be careful with these kinds of things...nothing too serious can come out of this product, but there are lots of things out there that can really hurt you if you dont know what your doing.

If you want a regular test booster try a tribulus product, just realize that this will raise your test and lower your estrogen.

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

Money- We are talking about the same thing right...Gaspari's Novedex XT?? I did not think it has andro in it, weird...

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

Yea WD. I have been looking at this product for a while now. I take an interest in Test Boosters, I dunno, I just do. I have researched a lot of them, along with PHs too. Am I going to ever take a PH, MAYBE when I am 24 or 25. If that. I was just interested in a product that can raise test levels naturally, and has no drawbacks, and Novedex seems to be the one. Tribulus has worked for most, but not in terms of gains or weight, but just a more potent sex drive lol. Novedex seems to be the safe and most used natural test. booster, that is why I take an interest in it. I have looked at Mstak as jeep mentioned, but I think Novedex is the best product for NT Boosters IMO. I was just asking input about the product and if you have heard about side effects.

 
I might do this on the next cycle. I'm set with what I have for the next few weeks. I'd like to see which one is better. At 47 I know when I get a boost. So does the wife....LOL

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Money- We are talking about the same thing right...Gaspari's Novedex XT?? I did not think it has andro in it, weird...

 
It says non- androgenic on BB.com product description.
 
Tribulus will increase libido (but you prob wont see any strength gains), Novadex could significantly decrease it, libido that is.
 
If it increases your test, which it probably wont(you are like 18 right?) then you could see some gains. I wouldnt
 
mess around with it, you are probably not going to see anything drastic except a possible decrease in libido if you are taking to much.
 
Actually, maybe it is worth a try...let me know how it goes. lol

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Yea WD. I have been looking at this product for a while now. I take an interest in Test Boosters, I dunno, I just do. I have researched a lot of them, along with PHs too. Am I going to ever take a PH, MAYBE when I am 24 or 25. If that. I was just interested in a product that can raise test levels naturally, and has no drawbacks, and Novedex seems to be the one. Tribulus has worked for most, but not in terms of gains or weight, but just a more potent sex drive lol. Novedex seems to be the safe and most used natural test. booster, that is why I take an interest in it. I have looked at Mstak as jeep mentioned, but I think Novedex is the best product for NT Boosters IMO. I was just asking input about the product and if you have heard about side effects.

I might do this on the next cycle. I'm set with what I have for the next few weeks. I'd like to see which one is better. At 47 I know when I get a boost. So does the wife....LOL

 
The third cycle of Mstak I took at the end of it made me get the worst stomach cramps. When I stopped taking it, no more cramps. I have never heard of this before so I dont think it is common. It was a pretty good product.
 
You could look into animal test as well, it is suppose to be very good as well.

ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

ok lemme try to explain this...

First it is not marketed as a PCT, some people however have used it in their PCT. It is marketed as a standalone cycle.

Nolvedex is an estrogen blocker, IT LOWERS ESTROGEN...the whole reason I posted that quote is because it is important.

there are 3 ingredients in Nolvedex xt

1. 3-hydroxy-4-androstene-6,17-dione—also known as 3-OHAT (in the form of a THP ether)
2. 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione—also known as "ATD"
3. Hesperitin—a flavonoid


See atd? companys like to reword things to sound like they are something else...

the whole issue of gyno is what COULD happen to someone. If you take 4 pills of this stuff every night, you can essentially wipe nearly all of the estrogen out of your body. You then cold turkey, and the issue of gyno has a good chance to pop up.

he talks about tapering, which would mean say week 1 - 4 pills, week 2- 3 pills, week 3 - 2pills, week 4 - 1pill.

but in the above post is just a recommended cycle, of only taking 2pills for most of the cycle, so you dont totally eliminate your estrogen...

I read about a lot of this stuff. I was on the brink of taking some stuff like 2 years ago but decided not to. Even when taking stuff like this, you need to make sure you get your facts.

You can use this as an estrogen blocker/test booster by itself. Maybe gain a few noticeable pounds, but if you dont take precautions it could all just be a waste.

this can also be used in PCT for something not very strong.

 
 
Bottle infront of me, right off the lable-
 
Supplement Facts
6,17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol
3,17-keto-etiochol-triene
3',5,7-trihydroxy-4'-methoxyflavone
 
I think we are talking two different animals here??

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Tribulus WILL NOT lower your estrogen, but keep it where it is. It does not have any estrogen blockers in it like Novedex does. Therefore, since tribulus will only increase your libido and raise your natural testosterone and not fxck with your estrogen levels, then I really do not see the harm in taking tribulus??? Novedex, now I can see the harm. I do not want to lower my estrogen levels so I will continue to do my research on it and then decide if I am going to take it or not.

My main question is, Trib. does not lower estrogen levels, but raises test and increases libido, so I do not see the side effects of having to deal with low estrogen while taking Trib. since it has no evidence of lowering it. So, I can take it solely for the purpose of raising my natural test levels- which leads to strength gains, which leads to size, and I will not have to worry about the estrogen thing right???

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

Apparently they are the same thing,
 
http://bodybuilding.ultimatefatburner.com/novedex-test-booster.html
 
Check that out, maybe that will help explain it.

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

Tribulus WILL NOT lower your estrogen, but keep it where it is. It does not have any estrogen blockers in it like Novedex does. Therefore, since tribulus will only increase your libido and raise your natural testosterone and not fxck with your estrogen levels, then I really do not see the harm in taking tribulus??? Novedex, now I can see the harm. I do not want to lower my estrogen levels so I will continue to do my research on it and then decide if I am going to take it or not.

My main question is, Trib. does not lower estrogen levels, but raises test and increases libido, so I do not see the side effects of having to deal with low estrogen while taking Trib. since it has no evidence of lowering it. So, I can take it solely for the purpose of raising my natural test levels- which leads to strength gains, which leads to size, and I will not have to worry about the estrogen thing right???

 
If your test is low then it will bring it back to normal, that in itself will increase strength. But that is only if it is low, which would be unlikely cause your like 18-19 right? 

Read that link Redjeep posted thats where I got the information. The ingredients on your label is just different names for what I posted.

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ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34

ok lemme try to explain this...

First it is not marketed as a PCT, some people however have used it in their PCT. It is marketed as a standalone cycle.

Nolvedex is an estrogen blocker, IT LOWERS ESTROGEN...the whole reason I posted that quote is because it is important.

there are 3 ingredients in Nolvedex xt

1. 3-hydroxy-4-androstene-6,17-dione—also known as 3-OHAT (in the form of a THP ether)
2. 1,4,6-androstatriene-3,17-dione—also known as "ATD"
3. Hesperitin—a flavonoid


See atd? companys like to reword things to sound like they are something else...

the whole issue of gyno is what COULD happen to someone. If you take 4 pills of this stuff every night, you can essentially wipe nearly all of the estrogen out of your body. You then cold turkey, and the issue of gyno has a good chance to pop up.

he talks about tapering, which would mean say week 1 - 4 pills, week 2- 3 pills, week 3 - 2pills, week 4 - 1pill.

but in the above post is just a recommended cycle, of only taking 2pills for most of the cycle, so you dont totally eliminate your estrogen...

I read about a lot of this stuff. I was on the brink of taking some stuff like 2 years ago but decided not to. Even when taking stuff like this, you need to make sure you get your facts.

You can use this as an estrogen blocker/test booster by itself. Maybe gain a few noticeable pounds, but if you dont take precautions it could all just be a waste.

this can also be used in PCT for something not very strong.

Bottle infront of me, right off the lable-

Supplement Facts
6,17-keto-etiocholeve-3-ol tetrahydropyranol
3,17-keto-etiochol-triene
3',5,7-trihydroxy-4'-methoxyflavone

I think we are talking two different animals here??

6'3"  @213

Squat 1x20x275

press:200, Deadlift:475, Bench:300, P.clean:235, Squat:385

"The only failure that is final is to stop trying to improve"

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

NMoney- I thought this stuff promoted Libido? I just take an interest because it is interesting that there is legal stuff out there that can put your testosterone levels sky high. I just thought this stuff was okay considering is just boosting your natural level, but so does regular Trib and ZMA. I wonder how much significant the difference is between the two.

ALso, Novadex is promoted as a PCT so, it should lower Estrogen levels, not raise them???Correct??

Tribulus does not have the same estrogen effects as you mentioned Novadex eh?

no its not. it can be part of a pct but it isnt enough. but i guess it depends on what your cycling and for how long.
Also, it can be part as a pct because you are 'suppressed' or 'shutdown' from whatever hormone you ran. if your just running it as a stand-alone, i think it will lower estrogen for no reason. at least when cycling a p.h. or something, it can be useful. not just running it for the hell of it.

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if you're gonna go big, might as well buy some viraloid and 17 HD

if you really gonna go big, the legal way, get pheraplex or epistane. or do em both haha

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if you really gonna go big, the legal way, get pheraplex or epistane. or do em both haha

hahaha might as well!