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No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 1:35:21 AM
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dougdarock
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Hello guys, apart from accelerating the process of recovery, does Whey Protein really help you out with your workouts? I work for about 2 hours every session:
Monday
Biceps, abs & Shoulders
Wednesday
Triceps, abs & Chest
Friday
Back, abs & Legs
I'm 20 and I've been training for around 4 months now the question is: Would I not become as I am if I didn't take Whey Protein? I take 1 scoop in the morning and before sleep; in training day I take an extra 2 scoops right after training. All with milk.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 2:03:30 AM
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Whey protein is nothing special. It's best to use for post-workout, pre-workout but not during the day as it is a fast digesting protein which is not what you want. If you need some help with your diet, I suggest reading the following article.
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_111173/mpage_1/tm.htm
The other thing I see is your friday routine. Having a back with leg workout on the same day isn't highly recommended. If you are doing deadlifts and squats on the same day, it is very taxing, and you may not have sufficient energy to perform both of them on the same session.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 2:57:32 AM
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People usually say to take protein before sleeping so to prevent muscle breakdown, as you will be not eating anything foods for at least 9 hours or so, but personally I don't haven't any protein before I go to sleep. If you are wanting to consume some protein, make sure it is a slow-digesting one, such as casein protein, or even cottage cheese.
I like to eat most of my food, rather than drink them (weight gainers etc), but if you are finding it difficult, as in time limitations, than feel free to get some weight gainer shakes, but some of them are high in sugar. But if you are saying that you don't have the appetite, then slowly eat your way up. Like for example, when I first started, some of my meals were snacks and then maybe after a few weeks, it slowly increased to the point where it is a meal.
Hope this helps
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 1:44:53 PM
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optimumhealth
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Protein usage:
Whey - when you wake up, 1 hour before workout, and within 45 minutes after workout.
Casein - right before bed, and first thing in the morning if you are cutting.
Egg & meat - any time in between your morning whey and bedtime casein.
And as far as your workout goes, you are seriously overtraining and will see little results. Less is more. Let me know if you want a plan designed for you, but let me know what exercises you have access to.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 2:54:00 PM
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vdk_au
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No need to send PM's optimumhealth :D. It's best for him to post on the forums, where everyone can see.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 3:53:05 PM
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optimumhealth
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Is that a pat on the back, or a slap in the face??
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 4:31:24 PM
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vdk_au
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I don't get you. If it sounded offensive, then I'm sorry. But what I meant was it's best for him to post here, and to let the answers be answered here, as others may have the same questions. I learnt a great deal from reading other people's questions, if they were all answered in PM's, I doubt I would have learn as much.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 4:43:45 PM
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optimumhealth
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Alrighty then. Not sure where you were going with your previous post.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/13/2007 4:45:12 PM
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No Quarter
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Agreed. Why make things private when everyone can benefit from advice just as easily.
As for protein, it doesnt directly help your workout, but it boosts your diet which therefore boosts your recovery and growth which will indirectly help you become stronger for next weeks workout.
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/14/2007 5:10:59 PM
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2 HOURS every session? That seems excessive.
Are you taking/eating any carbs after your workouts?
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RE: No difference with Whey Protein or without - 1/14/2007 11:46:25 PM
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dougdarock
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As I said before, I take protein every morning and before sleep, and after workouts on training days. No carbs
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. Btw, I also do curled crunches, straight crunches and leg raises between sets. Do you really think I'm overtraining? cuz this looks a good weekly training schedule for me, and I've seen a really good improvement in about 4 months. 
