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Nitric Oxide - 1/27/2008 1:18:41 PM
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flykindaguy
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Hey,I just reacently heard about taking Nitric oxide Supplements and i was just wondering what NO does to help your muscles out and how it does it?
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/27/2008 1:20:07 PM
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Take L-arginine(NO) in cap form prior to bedtime. Promotes release of natural growth hormone. Supplementing with it prior to exercise is actually detrimental.
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 8:22:19 AM
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If I'm right I think you're referring to products like N.O. Xplode right? If you are then I would tell you I've had nothing but good experience with that product, although its pricey. Its basically a big caffeine rush and it helps to keep you mentally focused on your workout. if you're one of those people who is easily distracted or has days where they don't feel they are getting the most out of their time at the gym then I would suggest this. I take it and I feel a lot better about my effort at the gym afterwards.
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 10:31:48 AM
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How is it bad to supplement it prior to exercise? All NO supplements are pre-workout supps.
In other posts you recommend NO supplements for pre-workout.
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 12:02:22 PM
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Dan Posted this:
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DO NOT TAKE ARGANINE WITHIN 4 HOURS OF YOUR TRAINING!
Use it before bed! (Not NO's with astimulants though!)
L-Arganine (the main constituent of your NO) supresses the growth hormone spike you should get from just good hard training!
That is the latest real research on it. No BS.
Effect on Growth hormones of pre or post workout arganine:
Just training Gives the highest
Just arganine gives the next highest
Arganine + training gives the lowest
Apparently the body has a feedback loop so it will take only 1 GH spiking event and the next event causes a negative feedback.
Training alone causes the highest spike!
L-Arganine before bed will give you all the NO benefits you want for the next day+
Most NOs on the market are really too low in dose (4-6 grams L-Arganine) to obtain the proper training effect, they are mostly stimulants (caffeine) and really, that is not what you want when bulking! Even though it feels good, it is counter productive for optimal growth!
Save the stims for the cutting when you will really want them!
Thread is here:
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_332361/mpage_2/tm.htm
Wait wtf... so I shouldnt take my animal pak with my last meal before my workout, its about 2 hours before my workout. Animal pak has arganine in it.. :(
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 6:18:29 PM
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I know about the Dan Mirage NO supp thing....Now heres the thing....NO supps deliver a pump with nutrients flowing to the muscle and blowing it up....Let's say your doing bi's and you take a NO supp and your bi's are pumped as hell. Now how is this not muscle not growing??
No one said you wouldn't get a pump,or that your muscle is not growing(BTW A"Pump" has nothing to do with "growing" your muscle,it's simply lactic acid buildup,being forced into the muscle.)Oh yeah,Muscle does not grow during exercise but during recovery.
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No disrespect to Dan Mirage but I mean he posts one thing and everyone jumps on his d*ck and believes it with no further information. I dont mean to be rude but I had to get it off my chest. 
No disrespect??????
that statement was ALL ABOUT DISRESPECT.....JEEZ...Did you even bother to click on the link I posted and read the original thread????
Obviously not....
Dan Mirage is a legend here and you'd do well to read anything and everything he's posted lately!
He knows his SH!T! He works in the industry, and will forget more about sports nutrition,supplementation and bodybuilding than you and I will ever learn!
Take advantage of the opportunity to pick his brain when given a chance...instead of ridiculing and second guessing his knowledge!
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 6:41:37 PM
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mattsuzuki16
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Well damn, I just bough some 'Shock Therapy' two weeks a ago and I've been loving it.......
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 6:45:19 PM
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Yea same here
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/30/2008 7:05:18 PM
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flykindaguy
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shock therapy is NO right?
does anyone know if its better than nitrix?
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/31/2008 3:29:52 AM
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triggamayn09
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Nitrix is a pill and take about a week to feel effects but you get great pumps from my experinece pills and powders are diff. games nitrix is the best pill form NO ive taken and powder form is Shock therapy with the pills you do not feel any immediate energy burst as most powders give you
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/31/2008 11:08:07 AM
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Tommy_Boy420
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ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
I know about the Dan Mirage NO supp thing....Now heres the thing....NO supps deliver a pump with nutrients flowing to the muscle and blowing it up....Let's say your doing bi's and you take a NO supp and your bi's are pumped as hell. Now how is this not muscle not growing??
No one said you wouldn't get a pump,or that your muscle is not growing(BTW A"Pump" has nothing to do with "growing" your muscle,it's simply lactic acid buildup,being forced into the muscle.)Oh yeah,Muscle does not grow during exercise but during recovery.
quote:
No disrespect to Dan Mirage but I mean he posts one thing and everyone jumps on his d*ck and believes it with no further information. I dont mean to be rude but I had to get it off my chest.
No disrespect??????
that statement was ALL ABOUT DISRESPECT.....JEEZ...Did you even bother to click on the link I posted and read the original thread????
Obviously not....
Dan Mirage is a legend here and you'd do well to read anything and everything he's posted lately!
He knows his SH!T! He works in the industry, and will forget more about sports nutrition,supplementation and bodybuilding than you and I will ever learn!
Take advantage of the opportunity to pick his brain when given a chance...instead of ridiculing and second guessing his knowledge!
alright, dont get your panties in a bunch here! OK here...i got superpump about two months ago finished it, it was nuts, whatever..I lifted more in the gym. yeah i know you dont grow in the gym thats general knowledge. Now if i lifted more in the gym, how am i not going to grow from that during recovery. Lifting more is not going to make me grow? Hmm...That sounds werid.. And yes i have read his post because i posted in that right after he put the study up. And hey bro, I know the dude knows what his shxt but whats wrong with second guessing? I mean he got the link from a website, and we all know the internet isnt 100% reliable. I see you are still bitter from the Cowboys loss.....GOOOOO BIG BLUE!
P.S. I didnt mean to be disrespectfu to Danl. so if i came off like that well then let it be
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/31/2008 11:29:16 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
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ORIGINAL: bulkingup
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ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
I know about the Dan Mirage NO supp thing....Now heres the thing....NO supps deliver a pump with nutrients flowing to the muscle and blowing it up....Let's say your doing bi's and you take a NO supp and your bi's are pumped as hell. Now how is this not muscle not growing??
No one said you wouldn't get a pump,or that your muscle is not growing(BTW A"Pump" has nothing to do with "growing" your muscle,it's simply lactic acid buildup,being forced into the muscle.)Oh yeah,Muscle does not grow during exercise but during recovery.
quote:
No disrespect to Dan Mirage but I mean he posts one thing and everyone jumps on his d*ck and believes it with no further information. I dont mean to be rude but I had to get it off my chest.
No disrespect??????
that statement was ALL ABOUT DISRESPECT.....JEEZ...Did you even bother to click on the link I posted and read the original thread????
Obviously not....
Dan Mirage is a legend here and you'd do well to read anything and everything he's posted lately!
He knows his SH!T! He works in the industry, and will forget more about sports nutrition,supplementation and bodybuilding than you and I will ever learn!
Take advantage of the opportunity to pick his brain when given a chance...instead of ridiculing and second guessing his knowledge!
alright, dont get your panties in a bunch here! OK here...i got superpump about two months ago finished it, it was nuts, whatever..I lifted more in the gym. yeah i know you dont grow in the gym thats general knowledge. Now if i lifted more in the gym, how am i not going to grow from that during recovery. Lifting more is not going to make me grow? Hmm...That sounds werid.. And yes i have read his post because i posted in that right after he put the study up. And hey bro, I know the dude knows what his shxt but whats wrong with second guessing? I mean he got the link from a website, and we all know the internet isnt 100% reliable. I see you are still bitter from the Cowboys loss.....GOOOOO BIG BLUE!
P.S. I didnt mean to be disrespectfu to Danl. so if i came off like that well then let it be
Whatever man,
how is me sticking up for one of the MOST KNOWLEDGABLE members at DBB,have anything to do with "football".
anyway,believe whatever you want.
I'm stating facts ,just as dan was!
you guys seem to think just because you get a caffeine buzz from your NO supps that it constitutes "building muscle"....LOL....drink a cup of java before you go to the gym....HaHaHa...it does the same thing and it'll save you a few bucks too!
ya know I was just thinking about how things on this forum had started to get alot better since Bobbi had become more active,not so many juvenile,teen age,masturbation threads...hell even the marraige proposals to ros and Linda had slowed down a bit....
But just when you think things are getting cool again....
some ^sshole comes along disrespects everybody,and makes me wonder why I even bother trying to help anyone out.
OK the "Tommyboy 420" believe whatever you want to believe,since you'd already posted in dan's original thread,you,out of everybody should have been aware of this study and the results which allude to lowering growth hormone levels. If you're getting great results by doing what you're doing....keep doing what you're doing.
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4-7-2008...........181
5-19-2008.........184
5-25-2008.........186
6-17-2008..........189
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Jane
ooookkkkkkaaaayyyyyy!!!!!!!! I like you I like you.
ARE YOU HAPPY???!!!!!!????!!!!
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Original: YET
HAHAHAHA. Put that in your sig. It'll be tits!
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RE: Nitric Oxide - 1/31/2008 11:58:33 AM
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Tommy_Boy420
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quote:
ORIGINAL: bulkingup
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ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
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ORIGINAL: bulkingup
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ORIGINAL: Tommy_Boy420
I know about the Dan Mirage NO supp thing....Now heres the thing....NO supps deliver a pump with nutrients flowing to the muscle and blowing it up....Let's say your doing bi's and you take a NO supp and your bi's are pumped as hell. Now how is this not muscle not growing??
No one said you wouldn't get a pump,or that your muscle is not growing(BTW A"Pump" has nothing to do with "growing" your muscle,it's simply lactic acid buildup,being forced into the muscle.)Oh yeah,Muscle does not grow during exercise but during recovery.
quote:
No disrespect to Dan Mirage but I mean he posts one thing and everyone jumps on his d*ck and believes it with no further information. I dont mean to be rude but I had to get it off my chest.
No disrespect??????
that statement was ALL ABOUT DISRESPECT.....JEEZ...Did you even bother to click on the link I posted and read the original thread????
Obviously not....
Dan Mirage is a legend here and you'd do well to read anything and everything he's posted lately!
He knows his SH!T! He works in the industry, and will forget more about sports nutrition,supplementation and bodybuilding than you and I will ever learn!
Take advantage of the opportunity to pick his brain when given a chance...instead of ridiculing and second guessing his knowledge!
alright, dont get your panties in a bunch here! OK here...i got superpump about two months ago finished it, it was nuts, whatever..I lifted more in the gym. yeah i know you dont grow in the gym thats general knowledge. Now if i lifted more in the gym, how am i not going to grow from that during recovery. Lifting more is not going to make me grow? Hmm...That sounds werid.. And yes i have read his post because i posted in that right after he put the study up. And hey bro, I know the dude knows what his shxt but whats wrong with second guessing? I mean he got the link from a website, and we all know the internet isnt 100% reliable. I see you are still bitter from the Cowboys loss.....GOOOOO BIG BLUE!
P.S. I didnt mean to be disrespectfu to Danl. so if i came off like that well then let it be
Whatever man,
how is me sticking up for one of the MOST KNOWLEDGABLE members at DBB,have anything to do with "football".
anyway,believe whatever you want.
I'm stating facts ,just as dan was!
you guys seem to think just because you get a caffeine buzz from your NO supps that it constitutes "building muscle"....LOL....drink a cup of java before you go to the gym....HaHaHa...it does the same thing and it'll save you a few bucks too!
ya know I was just thinking about how things on this forum had started to get alot better since Bobbi had become more active,not so many juvenile,teen age,masturbation threads...hell even the marraige proposals to ros and Linda had slowed down a bit....
But just when you think things are getting cool again....
some ^sshole comes along disrespects everybody,and makes me wonder why I even bother trying to help anyone out.
OK the "Tommyboy 420" believe whatever you want to believe,since you'd already posted in dan's original thread,you,out of everybody should have been aware of this study and the results which allude to lowering growth hormone levels. If you're getting great results by doing what you're doing....keep doing what you're doing.
ahh bro, cant we all just be friends!!! And it has nothing to do with football, im just pumped for sunday and i had to poke fun. ;) and just a side note, theses NO products have a bunch of sh!t in them besides caffeine, so i dont think coffee would really do the same. but hey what do i know, im just an @sshole who disrespects people on the internet because im a teenage douche bag. lol. this is pointless!
< Message edited by Tommy_Boy420 -- 1/31/2008 11:59:34 AM >
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