Natural Test levels and M1t.

Okay, I keep reading how everyone says that at a young age you have such high test levels already. But in the article I read out of mda's signature about natural test levels, it says that until 30 we all have relatively the same test level. Then it drops about 1% each year after that. So what's the difference between taking it at 18 as opposed to 25? I've seen a lot of random figures on when its okay to take PH's and I really wish someone could publish some real facts on it.

I have been lifting HARDCORE for about 4 months now. Before this I lifted on and off throughout high school, and I am now on MAX_OT. I feel I'm a veteran at lifting even if my size may not show it. I just got over 200 on my bench. I was the kid who started out benching the bar. I have made decent strength gains, and moderate weight gains. I'm satisfied I guess, but not impressed. I have on hand M1t,4AD, and 6oxo. I was thinking about doing a 2 week cycle of M1t, 4AD and 6oxo. Then I would continue to take 6oxo for another 4 weeks before repeating another cycle, if I wanted to or not.

Issues that somebody informed could clear up for me.
1) Once you begin seeing side effects, if you stop taking the PH's, do the side effects subside.

2) What is the long term damage done to you. Ken Caminiti just died. :(. I know he completely abused steroids and coke, but thats not the point.

3) Is estrogen blockers good to take while on cycle, or off.

4) I have 10mg pills and they say take 1 time a day. Everyone here says that u should take it 3 times a day. Should I divide the powder inside into 3 groups? Or take 2 pills one in morning, one in afternoon.

5) Are PH's illegal yet? I'm going on probation for a stupid mistake with Marijuana. I know how they do drug tests on marijuana, but on probation dont they test for all illegal substances? Would PH's show up illegal even tho they are legal? I guess this is a question for those that know how anabolic steroids are tested for, and if that same substance would show positive in PH's.

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Okay, I keep reading how everyone says that at a young age you have such high test levels already. But in the article I read out of mda's signature about natural test levels, it says that until 30 we all have relatively the same test level. Then it drops about 1% each year after that. So what's the difference between taking it at 18 as opposed to 25? I've seen a lot of random figures on when its okay to take PH's and I really wish someone could publish some real facts on it.

I have been lifting HARDCORE for about 4 months now. Before this I lifted on and off throughout high school, and I am now on MAX_OT. I feel I'm a veteran at lifting even if my size may not show it. I just got over 200 on my bench. I was the kid who started out benching the bar. I have made decent strength gains, and moderate weight gains. I'm satisfied I guess, but not impressed. I have on hand M1t,4AD, and 6oxo. I was thinking about doing a 2 week cycle of M1t, 4AD and 6oxo. Then I would continue to take 6oxo for another 4 weeks before repeating another cycle, if I wanted to or not.

Issues that somebody informed could clear up for me.
1) Once you begin seeing side effects, if you stop taking the PH's, do the side effects subside.
With the exception of Gyno and possible liver damage, yes the other sides will go away with time. Gyno will not go away and if your liver is overly sensitive to Methylated products, you can do perm. liver damage.
2) What is the long term damage done to you. Ken Caminiti just died. :(. I know he completely abused steroids and coke, but thats not the point. See comment above. In terms of AAS abuse I have no experience. Others will have to comment.
3) Is estrogen blockers good to take while on cycle, or off. Off cycle. You need estrogen during cycle has it helps with building muscle and they bulking cycle. You need estrogen blockers after your cycle unitl your natural production of Test is back to normal. (3-6 weeks).
4) I have 10mg pills and they say take 1 time a day. Everyone here says that u should take it 3 times a day. Should I divide the powder inside into 3 groups? Or take 2 pills one in morning, one in afternoon. Just take it once a day and be consistant when you take it. If you can take it a few hours before you WO.
5) Are PH's illegal yet? I'm going on probation for a stupid mistake with Marijuana. I know how they do drug tests on marijuana, but on probation dont they test for all illegal substances? Would PH's show up illegal even tho they are legal? I guess this is a question for those that know how anabolic steroids are tested for, and if that same substance would show positive in PH's. I cannot answer this as I am not sure. However, PHs are not illegal at this time (Jan 2005 they are illegal).

I always hear that stuff about test levels and not taking it until your 25. In my personal opinon take more test is good and your girlfriend will thank you lol. And with the cycle thing I think m1t it says take it 3 weeks then take a month off. I took it for 3 months then took two weeks off then got on some not good stuff that we dont talk about here. M1t is great some good gains in strength and size. Side effects were small my nuts shrank but thas normal. The only other thing was I was horney as hell all the time in my opinon closest thing to the real deal you can get. But take two to three a day morning after noon and before train at night worked great.

Sorry Im stupid and didnt read everything above. You dont need estorgen blocker waste of money big waste of money. Its not strong enough to make you grow DDs. Thats straight from gastro the people that make the s!@#.

Ok, Gyno. The ultimate fear of any guy. You said that its unfixable. What about if you stop taking the PH right as you see any gyno happening, and then go on 6oxo. Would that prevent further gyno?

I will be starting at my tittys all day to make sure they dont get bigger ( in a bad way ).

Oh and about perm liver damage. How will you know if your liver doesnt accept methylated products? I don't want to do perm damage but I need ot know what ot look for so I can stop.

Yes if you stop PH as soon as you sense Gyno starting and begin your PCT, it will stop the Gyno from progressing. However, IMO, liver damage is more likely to occur than Gyno with M1T.

What folks need to do is go thru an evaluation of their personal health regarding their liver. Have I ever had hepititas, does liver health issues run in my family, am I anemic, has a doctor ever mentioned that I have low liver enzymes. Things that will make you concerned that your liver is suseptable to further damage. Self abuse is one that folks do not consider (excessive alcohol intake) when considering methylated substances. So it you have no known liver issues and have every reason to believe your liver is healthy, then you should have no worries. Just keep the cycle to no more than 4 weeks and only take the dosage that works for you. Meaning start out at 10mg per day and give it a week before upping the dosage to 15mg per day. I have taken cycles of 20mg per day and found that I had just as good of results on 10mg per day. So by taking only 10mg per day, I have reduced the risk of damaging my liver by half. The only way to accurately diagnose any liver damage 9and to what extent) is with blood work.

i agree with phred if it is your first time just take it slow with M1T take 10mg a day and see how that goes i recomend taking a two week to 3 week cycle if you feel bad stop, but expect to feel tired and iratible unless you take 4 AD with it. drink lots of water and munch on the 6 oxo after you are finished and you should be fine.