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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Thursday, July 02, 2009 5:19 AM ( #481 )
uuughhhhh... went to weapons again last night, got inn the last round of pre test weapons work with people who can correct me.. I got it... I will practice ovre the long weekend, and I will decide then if I want to take my home staf to test rather than my school staff... I probably take the home one in it's just a little lighter.

Had a grown up watch my snake tiger.... my snake strikes are WRONG... great, one of the main movements.. I was corrected, actually the correction makes more sense...so hopefully i can ingrain them in the next few days... I will have the correction checked tonight.

So I gave up.... I new an increase was out of the question, I started b day to high.So I let all lifts ride at the previous weight, even understanding I was dropping 2 reps... coupled with the 15 sec less rest, and the fact that I haven't been able to make my targets... cutting suxs.
supre sts 45 rest after pair
Deads 3 x 10 @ 177
 Static Lunges 3 x 12 @ 30lbs each db

Romaininan Deads 3 x 10 @ 117
Curls 3 x 10 @ 15 lbs DB

Pendley rows 3 x 10 @ 62 Ok that should have gone up.....lazy hardway
 reverse flys (or really I guess rear lateral raises) 3 x 10 @ 12

my hips all ****ed up, again... this time i thinkit was the lunges... They felt different, actually felt a lot better than usual, on my knee (my knees been bothering me a lot... fu stuff moer than anything else I believe).... I have been working on that, and my misguided hips, stiff flexors... all that crap... seriouslt I can barely walk now.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, July 06, 2009 9:35 AM ( #482 )
Thursday night had a free spar with Carlos, but we did a slow motion one... I was dizzy... forget a meal on Keto and you suffer. Double checked my snake tiger correction... Regular class, sparred with Wendy, nothing new.

I am not feeling good at all about ANY of my tests this time around...I am rather unsettled about everything. At least I am carbed up.

Practiced Friday for an hour.  I met up with a friend from Kung fu at a block party I attened.... my BF was playing, my kung fu friend was playing... small world Philly, gets you every time (you know I spent 6 hours going back and forth between 2 bars, I only drank diet coke... yuck... but I wanted something with some kind of falvour, other than just seltzer, which I do drink regularly)... So Chris re corrected my snake tiger, the snake strikes and explained the application to me, better than any one else prior, shame because he is taking a few years off from Kung fu (deal with some family stuff)... I like Chris, I am gonna miss him, but he'll be back... I think.  
Worked yet more on my stuff Saturday, and got a light lift in on Sunday, in addition to practicing my forms... I wonder If I am gonna test in spar.


Oh and I think I ****ed up Keto... One little label not read, one little assumption (stupid half half... when I had been hitting the light cream... no carbs verses, like 13 carbs per serving)...SO I am either  up this week, or at the same ... So one miss step, and already admittedly lackluster recording of macro's this week, and the whole thing is for naught... Such a dumb ass sometimes... 

tis ok bikini is not gonna happen anyway... not in time... but still a huge amount of fat ingested for no good reason
  ... 60 sec rest
 squat to push press 2x 15 @ 52
 Romanian deadlift bent over row 2 x 15 @ 62
 db curl to arnold press 2 x 15 @ 15 (last weeks number was wrong...twas 12's this week up to 15's)
 leg raises 2 X 15
elbow to knee 2 x15
crunches hip up 2 x 15
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, July 06, 2009 10:35 AM ( #483 )
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because for the first time I felt him in my torso... But yeah the energy was much stronger in my arms, much more enveloping, and it flowed through and into my torso... my hips opened up in a way that they don't usually (although i would like them to, and have been working on it) and I was all swively....lower, and very, very fluid,  it's cool... I guess we are connecting, and i am getting better at letting him in, or he is more comfortable, with coming into me...




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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, July 07, 2009 10:03 AM ( #484 )
Yea it does
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, July 07, 2009 11:28 AM ( #485 )
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I forgot to mention I hung with my dead buddy last night at home... he shows up frequently, for no reason... especially after class.

well, some sort of breakthrough happened... because for the first time I felt him in my torso... (I really wonder what you all phantom readers, have to think about all this, probably thinking poor whack job). But yeah the energy was much stronger in my arms, much more enveloping, and it flowed through and into my torso... my hips opened up in a way that they don't usually (although i would like them to, and have been working on it) and I was all swively....lower, and very, very fluid,  it's cool... I guess we are connecting, and i am getting better at letting him in, or he is more comfortable, with coming into me... Any way we did a lot of stance work together, and spinning, the arm patterns have been the sam,e ones we have been working on... I think he is trying to help me with my spin kick... poor misguided fool : ) I <3 my dead buddy....yuppers nut job..

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Ok, I am assuming that your dead buddy is a spirit (Ghost) that comes to your home. Or is it an old friend that shows up, eats you out of house and home and has no job?? 
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, July 07, 2009 1:23 PM ( #486 )
Get your hands out of your pants Virt... you to ripped!

Yes Wet Dawg, I explained somewhere ages ago in this journal... I was given, by my master Phan a dead, 1000 year old kung Fu master of my style, he takes over my body and teaches me Kung Fu.... My school's background is a Mystic Taoist tradition. I wish I was joking. That is what Spirit Class is, in a nut shell. Very interesting, since I didn't believe it, til I saw it, well til I saw people doing things they are not really physically capable of. So I have a dead guy, he is my buddy, and we are bound together in some sort of way, as I progress, I will get to a point where he will possess me completely, and i won't remember, but that takes some years, now I can just feel him push me around... no fooling. I am not suggestible, I don't feel like I am manufacturing an experience, but if that floats DBB's boat, it's cool, that is how I would justify it if it was someone else i am reading about, quite honestly... Being a non spook, atheist kinda girl.

Well I blew all my forms...

Snake tiger -I screwed up on side of my snake strikes, I caught myself doing them wrong, and then repeated to do them right, and then forgot where I was in the form....1 spin kick was off target, however, I landed in the right spot, for the next kick, and it wasn't a sloppy mess.

 Verdict from Phan EXCELLENT test... because I am one of the few who show good character (so my snake moves look like how snakes strike, my tiger looks like how a tiger attacks), good tempo (like a real fight, with pauses and bursts), and power! He said I have improved from last test, and that is what the tests are about he knows I know the form, so how much better do I move from last time.

Staff- I screwed up a flip, I don't know how I missed it, I don't have any problems with the flip???? But alas, I did, I also screwed up the jump strike at the end... I should have faked it instead of jumping, but whatever... The kicker is that when I began learning the form, I could always hit that jump. now that i have the form down, I screw that all up.

Phan said excellent!!! He said he "I admire you because of how hard you worked for your weapon, everybody else gave up, but you work for your form"
SO many people told me how well I did with the staff. that it was really fluid and very good, good beyond my experience.

Spar I TESTED IN SPAR! I spared between form and weapon, I can't make it on Thursday, otherwise I would have liked to wait. I didn't want to test after hurting myself. So Phan asked for volunteers, 3/4 the way through, jus no one was moving, and save the senior students, he does not necessarily make people free spar if they don't want to ... it's your choice, but you won't completely learn our style with out it. ... Any way, he was busting on our Asian girls, asian girl spar... no asian girls don't spar.. mum won't like... mum doesn't allow... (yeah and their mom does not allow), so I just called out, I'll fight, Phan... So he called out for a non sexist combatant... (Kung fu is the polar opposite of pc, but but much more accepting that most pc people) no body moved... and then Allan said he could use the practice... I was so happy.... I have fought Allan a lot, I like Allan, and he is not 5 years my beter just 1 year... much better. We fought, it was a solid draw...I think, I was sloppy I didn't use my forms well... but I didn't lose, and since it was my first test in free spar, I did great... I know someone told me they really enjoyed my spar...

So Phan made it a point to tell me my test was really really good, after it was all said and done.... Nancy and Jackie told me I had the best expression of EVERYBODY... (crazy since Ausim is testing for his red sash), with Hector trailing me (also nuts he won his tournament 2 weeks ago), and then the one girl who doesn't like me as 3rd most expressive (can't remember her name all of a sudden, although she has been better with me recently). Carlos came up to me to tell me my staff was really outstanding (due in a large part to him.. I might add) I got knuckle punches and a thumbs up from Phan as I left for the night...

I can't believe I blew everything that badley and yet did so well... And none of these people are stingey with criticism, 9not by a long shot), so my school isn't a positive reinforcement love fest, far from it... nor is it overly militant, agressive or strict... we have a nice balance, but trust me Phan is honest about peoples forms, adn will clearly describe how displeased he is, when he is.  SO I DID GOOD!
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, July 08, 2009 3:05 PM ( #487 )
supersets 45 sec rest between pairs

 Front squats 2 x 10, 1x7  @ 102 jumped the gun
Bench press db 3 x 10 @ 35

 Overhead press (start from chest) 3 x 10 @ 42
 overhead squats 3 x 10 @ 42

close grip palms in db Bench press 3 x 12 @ 30
triceps kicks 3 x 10 @ 30
meh for working out staring at 1 am not so bad... especially after yesterdays work labour
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Friday, July 10, 2009 9:11 AM ( #488 )
Have not been able to make Kung fu... all week after test... I ahve been rushing to get all of the work I need to do done before my vacation, which is now up in the air... I might be done tonight, might come in  on Sunday, or might be here monday and tuesday well see... but my schedule has been bad in addition, so I just  can't get there in time..  

Super sets 45 sec rest between pairs
Deads 3 x 10 @ 177 (got them all in, finally!! I couldn't take losing another rep)
 Static Lunges 3 x 10 @ 35lbs each db (UP ****er)

Romanian Deads 3x 10  @ 122 (UP)
Curls 3 x 10 @ 20 lbs

Pendley rows 2 x 10 1x 9 @ 72 (up couldn't get the last one, and probably the last 3 were ugly to say the least)
reverse flys (or really I guess rear lateral raises) 3 x 10 @ 12


Finally got some increases...
might be my last journal entry for a couple weeks, but i'll be back. I think i am going to got the gym... there is one down the street from my beach house, the week that I am away... kinda excited to lift in a gym... but I am not putting any pressure on myself.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Saturday, July 11, 2009 1:57 PM ( #489 )
just made it to spirit class, and the half hour before. Worked with Joe, an English woman, about 2 months behind me... we figured out Long Dragon together with the help of phan... Works killing me.... I am here todaty possibly tomorrow, and then Monday... and that is gonna be it... they'll have to deal wuth this crap all by themselves!
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, July 13, 2009 10:45 AM ( #490 )
I just went to Dover this past weekend but didn't think to say anything to you until we were on our way. We drove right past philly.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Thursday, July 30, 2009 10:59 AM ( #491 )
That sucks ripped, we could have met up for lunch!

So I'll make it short, because considering how verbose I am, this entry could take me all day... if I did a full play by play...

I swam, a lot.... the ocean was with me... very gentle, for a change... big azz swells, though, but no real strong current, and no smack downs... so lots of bobbing, ducking under, all that good stuff...

Went to their little gym... nice gym. No squat racks, or power cages, only smith machine... So I stuck to my usual squats (overheads, and fronts), my only disappointment. Got to use the lat tower... and dip station... got some decline sit ups in... basically tried to get the to play with the "good" machines, and eqiptment" that I don't have access to. Really enjoyed working out in a gym, even though there were people there..  I represented the ladies, well... as I am the only one I saw who really used the free weight section... no negative vibes from any of the dudes... I thought I might max iout or push some limits, since it would be safer to do it there, I had a 23 fold reason for deciding not 1, I didn't want to use ****ty form, and if I maxed as I progressed up the form would suffer to some degree. I didn't want to invite people to tell me not to do or did you know, or really give them any excuse to criticize, or make people think I did not know what I was doing... and I was on vacation, so I got in got it got done, not really stressful workouts, but enoght actually to leave me with DOMS the next day, and sweaty and out of breath through out the course of my most taxing exercises. And figured that is enough, and it was.

I got an 80 min deep tissue masage (oh man... I could go on for an hour about my massage, and my "malibu Ken" massaure), and a facial/peel.

Kung fu on the beach, a couple times.

Kept CKD, hate CDK, and did not county the calories, I probably gained a couple pounds... (2 ice cream cones, but that was really it... oh and only one scotch). I will stick with quite frankley because I am afraid of stopping at this point... bod looks good, certainly still no bikini, but what I want to happen is happening.

Off week form weights Kung fu every day this week minus yesterday. Kyle said he was watching me and I am getting cursive all of a sudden, that is a VERY good thing.

Need to figure out what I am doing next week... I feel more compelled to get a gym membership... after Spa Kuru.... but, but, but a new bicycle... but, but I want both damn it... selfish lady I am.

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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Friday, July 31, 2009 1:09 PM ( #492 )
Fu fine, Phan is on vacation. Class runs class. I ended up calling a bunch... I hate that, again I will complain there are many other students my senior who should step up and run some stuff, who just don't.

Free spar, worked with Dave for a while... We played King of the Mountain, he was king, I tried to knock him off his square.. I did 3 times... he probably thwarted my rebellion, 75 times... ; (

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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, August 03, 2009 10:13 AM ( #493 )
ok, work came back at full speed, never made it to Kung Fu on Friday,....


Saturday bare bones until I figure out what I am doing for realzies... went back to 2 heavies, and I think... 1 coulter conditioning circuit, a week. left room for increases, so for a couple weeks I think I'll stick with this... I don't have all my new bicycle money, too much of it went to vactaion... leaning more towards just getting a gym membership. Instantly reminded why I don't like lifting these kinda numbers (or where they will be soon) in my living room...
 
adequate rest between sets 2 minutes +

front squat 5x3 @ 107 (the squat is not the problem, the clean to position is.. I had taken a long time off from seriously challenging cleans, and it is evident in my form and ability, 107 was hard and sloppy)

bench 3 x 5 @ 40

power cleans 5 x 3 @ 87 boo could have been heavier, left room to go up. since 20 pounds more was so awkward... however, I think by this point my form was back to where iot should be... so maybe the cleans to the front squat won't be so bad next time through, and I can get that weight where it is supposed to be.

chins 2 x2 1x1 that is all I have any more... wasn't I up to 12 at some point... errhhh... my own fault.



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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 9:30 AM ( #494 )
Do the challenge of the week Hardway!

And isn't the ocean off philly freaking cold?
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 11:15 AM ( #495 )
I'm gonna do it, probably tonight... the results are going to be horrific... I honestly don't know if I'll even post the time... I don't even think my tread mill  goes fast enough to "run" a competitive time", on it's own.. with out me plodding on it, HA! seriously!

Yeah the NJ beaches ( I am assuming that is what you mean, unless your talking about the ones in Delaware on the bay or what not) are a bit cold, especially since you used to live in Florida!

Where were you?

last night

Weapons, work my stick, and helped Alexis with her snake tiger.

Home lift 2 min rest straight sets...

Clean and press.. 5 x3 @ 67

Deadlift 1 x5 ramping 157 x 5 167 x 5 177 x5 187 x 5 197 x5 (god I suck! any more)

Bent over rows 3 x 8 @ 72

reverse flys / calf raise (no platform or anything ) curls .. all together 3 x12 @ 12 ha! just was bored waiting to recover from the flys and kept moving, and that is what happened.


Had a solid session with dead guy... at like 1 am, I think he has me doing a 5 element form, because it seems like we have been working on stuff piecemeal, that he put all together in one long complicated form, with tiger, bird and dragon hand.


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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 12:39 PM ( #496 )
Aw post the time, mine is going to suck too.

And we were in Rehoboth but we didn't get in the water. Even when I lived in Miami I didn't spend a lot of time in the water now that I think about it...
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Tuesday, August 04, 2009 1:02 PM ( #497 )
Rehobeth is supposed to be a really nice beach... I have never been. I am an ocean junkie... I love it, when it's cold even, although my second littlest toe on my right foot, gets instantly numb, and cramps up every time (and I mean every time) I get into cold water. Got at least 2 hours swimming in everyday I was in the outer banks... (but the water was admittedly much warmer down there).

We'll see how I do... the only thing that doesn''t worry me is the situps... I haven't done push ups in quite a while... they used to be part of my standard warm up.... hmmm.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:23 AM ( #498 )
I think all my hip flexor/ hip girdle flexibility work is paying off, my kicks are getting markedly better.. and becoming more consistent, and apply able. That has been my major focus of late... besides vanity.... really boring and tedious focuses... Any time i m doing something that deals with the either weight on my heals (which is also a reoccurring problem both with weights and Kung Fu) or the spread of my hips, that is what I concentrate on... I think that is also why I let all my lifts be relatively light, so I can focus on the spread... foot placement, proper balance... I am still not right, but better... and yeah kicks definitely better.

Had a really hot sweaty class... really pushed speed at certain points, which is something I have begged off from in the interest of having clean clear articulated and coorrect/precise movement and placement. But, worked up a serious sweat. Nothing earth shattering.

too tired by the time I got home to do the challenge.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 10:42 AM ( #499 )
Hardway, how's kung fu going for you?  Do you really feel that it teaches you how to defend yourself in a street fight?  Or is that not what it's all about (I apologize, but I don't know anything about kung fu)?

Also, do they focus a lot on conditioning?  That's the main reason I really like MMA is because of how much time they spend on conditioning.  It's like 65% conditioning/35% learning to fight.  And of that 35%, THAT in and of itself is a great cardio workout, especially the sparring. 

Just wondering if you wouldn't mind giving me your thoughts on the kung fu, unless you already did somewhere, then post a link to it please.  Thanks!
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 3:13 PM ( #500 )
I'm warning you... it's gonna be a long answer.

Kung fu is going really well! I am very happy I went with the style I choose (was pressured into taking because of my friend, who studied there), and the school I go to.

It is difficult to talk about Kung Fu in general terms. There is a HUGE variety of different styles.... they range from the very aesthetically beautiful to watch full of acrobatics, and dance like moves (like wu shu, which is the "official" Kung Fu of communist China... but it is a pretty useless style when it come to really fighting, as it is more closely related to Chinese Acrobatics, than a true fighting style ) to the ugly and more practical... like Hung Gar (I think that is a good example). My style is a really well rounded one that is geared toword the practical... it is also quite pretty, but very little acrobatics... and our kicks do not go above chest height.

So I will talk about the style I study. It is a 5 animal (elements) style's and I believe as well, it shares ancestry with Shoalin / White Crane / long fist techniques... It's origins are very old... but over a 1000 years it has been really influenced by a lot of different styles, and has evolved to the point iti is at now... I'll pm you the link to my school there are 2 articles about my school and my master, from Inside Kung Fu magazine... I just don't want to put it up for the rabble, although I think I have once already on this site... He can better explain the origins and the focus of what I study. If your at all interested.

ANYWAY.....

Yes, I really feel confidant about potential "street fights"... We not only train for the one on one but for multiple attackers as well... Which is a nice touch... not that I am really well prepared for an attack... but I am getting there. My style is very complicated, and not easy to learn, it takes time.

A couple months ago, I was shoo-ing a homeless man away from a victim of violence vigile, he just wouldn't leave the crying people alone....He is nothing but a  drunk pain, and as he was asking me "ohhh why do you look so aggravated (because of him, obviously), baby what can I do to help you", he starts rubbing my tricep... Before I could even finish my "If you really want to help me out, the first thing you can do is stop touching me", I noticed I had unconsciously adjusted myself into a in fight stance (although from his angle I know he did not know that I was "gaurded", it was a very innocent, and non threatening posture). Also, a catalog of moves had flipped through my head, at an instant... I didn't think about it, necessarily, It was like a flip book was just swished through my head... and I knew if he clamped down on my arm... it was gonna be monkey neck throw... which is an arm/elbow break, with a cross kick to the knee, back of the wrist to the chin/ jaw, grab the back of the neck pull neck down while bringing a hard knee to his chest. all this was in place before I finished my sentence... and not to mention the much simpler things I knew with no problem I could pull of, if that somehow back fired or he changed his position. NOt that it came to that... but there was no question to my readiness.

Other things of note when it comes to how confident on the street I feel... Kung Fu is a really dirty fight style... It's not clean, it's not really meant for a ring, so we don't think about landing punches for points or anything like that, we think about breaking bones, clawing out eyes/ tendons, ripping flesh, hitting people in the throat, and other soft spots, and grabbing and twisting off nads. . there is also less aggressive more defensive / deflective portions of our style... those that do come or are more directly influenced by the Crane systems. WHere force deflection, redirection, and the "annoy your opponent to death", parts of my style come from, very useful on opponents much larger than ones self. 

The way we learn.... and conditioning.... We do forms a LOT of forms.... Forms are elongated expressions of the fight movements... It is a choreographed fight with multiple attackers who are not there. That is where the bulk of our daily class conditioning... takes place, but it is a mix of cardio, and flexibility, and agility work... but all choreographed. The conditioning is directly proportional to the work you put into it... We will never ever do sit ups or push ups (as a class that is), we really don't do even enough just straight kicking or punching drills, a lot of us complain about that (as we all suck, and those who don't know the rest of us do ; ) ) That is the most important thing we test on... From what I understand from talking to people who have studied a variety of martial arts, that is pretty indicative of a Chinese system, they are very form heavy... with the slogan "a good fighter has good form". Now we form spar daily, where we go through a set pattern of attacks and replies. Depending on your partner it can be a conditioning work out. But if your trying to figure out the application then it is not giong to be.

Once a week (thursdays), it's fight night... That is an optional class it's free sparing, and that is purely just free for all fighting. that is our most seriously taxing night. No pads, no gear, no time limit, several fights just going on all around you at once. This is also where we get to really practice and try to figure out how to implament what we are learning. I have gotten f'ed up, from going to fight night. Not everybody attends, but honestly to learn my system, you need to do it all forms class, free spar, weapons, and spirit class (that you can just read about in the link... I have tried to explain it here and I talk about frequently in this journal, but yeah read the article, yes it is Nut Noodle, kookie pants stuff ...

weapons is difficult and fun, conditioning as well... I am learning the staff now, and will be for quite some time... But I am looking forward to, short double sticks, swords (single and double), spear, the Chinese (can't remember the name, you use it to cut the legs off of horses... mmmhmmm really useful in todays society, I know), knives... really looking forward to 3 section staff... just because it's bad ass to watch. few others...


Also I fight with my BF quite a lot, for fun... he grew up in west philly projects, he also spent years hanging out with and around although never belonging to outlaw bikers/ bike clubs.... Pagens, warlocks, outlaws, wheels of soul.... I must admit I have gotten a lot better at fighting him... the cries of those little feet, frequently emminate form the kitchen. I am also a good deal faster as my striking/blocking speed has increased (that is one of the things kung fu in general is known for, we are neither the hardest punchers or kickers... but we are the fastest), so I can effectively rush him, fast enought that he can only back up and ward off blows... If it was for real he would KILL me, quite effectively, but he would actually have to work at it...

So lighter on conditioning than what you do, harder to learn...
Did I answer your question?


 
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 05, 2009 9:09 PM ( #501 )
It's late, and I'm kinda drunk, but I will read this tomorrow while at work.  I'm looking forward to hearing about it.
 
EDIT: Yup, just read it.  That did answer my question.  That sounds pretty bada** as far as the "dirty" style goes.  I like that.  I like how it's 100% fight training.  That's the thing about my MMA class is that we do so much running, body weight exercises, circuit training, pylometrics, etc... in order to get conditioned.  Then again, being able to last in the ring for a couple 5 minute rounds definately requires an excellent level of conditioning.  Then again, stepping into a ring also requires a ton of actual fight training!  Sparring is, by far, the best way to condition for a fight though.  There's some expression that goes something like, "In order to get conditioned for a sport, you have to actually do the sport itself: swimmers must swim, boxers must box, wrestlers must wrestle, etc...."
 
But ya, that does sound really interesting.  While I'm loving MMA, I'm still open to learning other fight styles too.  Even basic Tae Kwan Do, which I took when I was like 10 and had no interest in then, I'm interested in now.  I guess it's an age thing, but martial arts are really cool!
 
I'll check out that link too, thanks.
 
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Thursday, August 06, 2009 11:58 AM ( #502 )
You know, the lack of conditioning work at my school is definitely a minus.... or at least if I look at it objectively... Many of our students do not work on conditioning or strength on their own.. (but actually those who don't also don't practice on their own either...). So I guess maybe in my mind, on second thought it comes to a draw... and there are a lot of different reasons why people come to learn Phan's style (although it does annoy him just the least little bit, because he says frequently... the is a real MARTIAL ART.... it's fighting, not dancing, or New Age nonesense.... funny considering the "spirit" stuff, he does not like people who only want the spirit side)... not necessarily to fight, or for self defense, although those of us who are serious do want to learn really how to fight this way, in addition to all the other benefits...

But, I do like that the vast majority of time spent is working on pure Kung Fu, fighting.. I can condition myself at home...

There are a ton of really interesting Martial Art styles, they varry so widely... and many take so long to learn well... it's hard to decide exactly what one, you would like to study.

Did the push part of the challange... them were some piss ppoor push ups by about 40, and after... and I mean piss poor... I could have taken longer and did them better, but I wasn't watching my timer... was worried... it would end up being 12 minutes, and not able to get to 100, my abs are also very sore, still from my last workout on vacation WTF I did 3 sets of decline sit up with like a 10 pound plate, and my abs have never been the same... really bothered me on my chin ups Saturday... guys I took a week off .... have been back on board a week , and they still hurt. so my abs were actually the limiting factor on the push ups... they kept giving out... ... (I sold myself a little short) so it was 4:47 for 100 push ups... BF didnt get home in time to hold my legs for the sit ups. Tread mil dying, I am not sure it's gonna make it through a for time run, but I will try.

 did a modified coulture circuit... 57 lbs  3 x 8 no rest til all exercises complete. 60 sec rest
Chin ups 1,1,1 (seriously was going to skip them but did just 1 each set, really hurt my abs after the push ups. )
push press 3x8
bent over row 3 x 8
good morning 3 x 8
static lunges 3 x 8 (each leg)
hang clean to front squat 3 x 8
RDL 3 x8
pretty sucky but had some kind of push press form breakthough I dodn't even know I needed...


Oh Bri..P.S ... the music and editing on the link are terrible.... and you only get to see tiny parts of what we do...
P.P.S Bri, You don't stand a chance...  


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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Friday, August 07, 2009 10:40 AM ( #503 )
Last night fights, only one... I have alter plant duty, while Phan and Jasper are away... so I had things to do other than fighting....

Got in one fight however... It was with a very new guy. He has been trying out a bunch off different types of Martial and Mixed Martial schools, over the past several years... Although he hasn't stuck around anywhere more than a month, but he is really happy at my school, so he has committed, he has been around for more than a month  with us... He is bigger than me by about 30 pounds, and 5 inches, but a trim build... I was a bit apprehensive about sparing with him.. since he is so new, also since he has backgrounds in other disciplines... I was worried how I would fair...

We sparred for about 7-10 minutes, he landed, 1 punch, 2 kicks, and took me down once (although he dropped me, I was trying to do an application I am not comfortable with, best place to try stuff like that is with someone less skilled, and I did back roll out of it, he didn't follow me down, I was on my feet and in a adventagious position, but yeah I walked right into it).  HOWEVER I can say that I totally dominated him, I was totally in control of our fight... I kicked him square in the knee cap as many times as he punched/ kicked /took me down, combined. I beebopped and scatted all over his torso.  Just kept working the body : ) . I am super pleased to say he couldn't touch me... I could block him all day long, and he was TRYING, TRYING hard to hit me... : )

Forms class was alright not pleased with my performance,  at all... I felt off.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, August 10, 2009 6:45 PM ( #504 )
tread mil bit the farm basically, the noises the thing is making so could not complete the challenge, never did the sit ups after I figured that out.

Fridays Kung fu... helped Phan's 2 girls a lot... Had a lot of fun it was more of a work out playing with them then class was that night.

Nice spirit session, over heard Phan and Ray, talkign about my spirt form, said it was quite pretty.

front squat 5x3 @ 107 (better cleans this week) bench
5 x 5 @ 40 (brought this back to a 5x5... no spotter, got keep it manageable
 power cleans 5 x 3 @ 87 boo
chins 3 x2

should hit the increase next week,

Home lift 2 min rest straight sets...

Clean and press.. 5 x3 @ 67
Deadlift 1 x5 ramping 157 x 5 167 x 5 177 x5 187 x 5 197 x5 (god I suck! any more)
Bent over rows 3 x 8 @ 72
No accessories, had to go to work late no time

Should be able to increase everythign next week me hopes... this week it felt totally do able
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 12, 2009 1:51 PM ( #505 )
Kung fu last night was fine... Feel like I am finally getting more comfortable with calling forms, and warm ups... nothing to do with my performance though.

Kicks have gotten better... at the cost of my hip... really got to write more about that... very worried, but back to thinking it is a small deep muscle tendon issue.

this morning...
this was supposed to be my circuit day, but I did the challenge instead, so just ended up doing a mixed bag.

hang clean 3 x 8  @ 72

deadlifts 3:00 flat, 162 lbs, 38 reps (I had to sit down for like 3 minutes after wards)

military press 67 lbs 3 x 5, 2 x 4 + 1 failure push press

Front squats (just to lazy to change the weight ) 67 lbs 2 x 20



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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:34 PM ( #506 )
I have been thinking of starting a MMA class. Hopefully at my age I can still bend like I need too. Is this the place you go HW?
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Wednesday, August 12, 2009 2:42 PM ( #507 )
No, I only study pure Kung Fu, not MMA... maybe Bri goes there... or that might be where King Bill Raymond teaches/ trains... I am super jealous of their conditioning lifting equiptment... I'll pm you the link for my school... now no stalking, I know you already figured out where I work...

What I learn is very old...

Don't worry Wet Dawg... if your not bendy enough now, you will be in a few months, if you pick up a fighting skill.... should be fun for you considering your wrestling background.  
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Friday, August 14, 2009 10:23 AM ( #508 )
Thursday night fights... I only sparred with Lamont... when I asked him to dance... he was " yeah come'on even though your gonna beat me all up". that's cool since he is my skill level... people are recognizing my dominance....  MUHAHAHAHAH!!!! ok that was fun.. yeah I did win the spar... but I ma also the one who got hurt...(funny truth to fighting win or loose, almost always get hurt, even if it's just sore or bruise, and not activity ending) he blocked a front kick... I am getting much better at kicking in situations, finally figured out how to chamber my leg to throw them on target, when my opounant is close. : ) but, I don't know, it was either I hit his shin or a hard part of his hand my toenail jammed back... cut the nailbed or sides or somehting.. I ended up bloody, again (when did I turn into such a bleeder?). it didn't end our spar, but I knew it when it happened. when we finished is when I saw the blood, and of course once the addrenilin of the spar wears off, the pain comes in.. SO that was my only spar.

When class started proper I was throbbing, so I had a hard time with some stances, but muddled through. Form spar with Micheal, very basic, basic fighting techniques... Phan was all around dissapointed at the sheer amouint of grappeling that has been happening, our sparring in general is not in a good place for our style. Mike and  were ahving a blast... until the absolute second to last time though... he blocked my kick I let out a squeal of pain, GOOD NIGHT! MAN THAT HURT, hit the same spot.  Made it through the last 5 minutes... both Lamont and Michael felt bad... but i cracked micheals ribs.. so he owed me one any way... limpy today.  But I'll make it.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Saturday, August 15, 2009 4:17 PM ( #509 )
Kung fu last night was good, sort of... Jo was there she is my buddy, who I only see like once a month, same skill level, she is 3 months behind me (we don't test together, hers is 3 months after mine), we have been working on long dragon together... we have a pack, because Phan and other students have changed that form on us so many times... that we will only practice it together, a month before the test we will show it to Phan again, so he can correct (ok change it )one last time... but we are sticking to the same moves... so we got to check in to make sure we were still on the same page... I taught her some more staff, we get on well.

I got corrected BIG TIME though... Phan is unhappy because i am too constantly powerful and linear , I need to be more fluid and dance like with bursts of power.... heavy sigh, he said I was doing closer to Karate.... he is very unhappy with where are sparring has gone... we don't use our forms well. I;m new damn it...   : )... It's a problem, I know exactly what he is talking about I will work harder.
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Re:My ramblings, the endless journey - Monday, August 17, 2009 10:01 AM ( #510 )
Saturday night I had a charley horse so bad in my thigh... I screamed for 3 minutes, I was worried someone was going to call the police... and now I have no vioice... note to self... hydrate, hydrate, hydrate... I don't EVER want to go through that again...


front squat 5x3 @ 112 (the squat is not the problem, the clean to position is, still, but better).
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