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My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 4:43 PM ( #1 )
I have been lifting seriously for about 3 months now.  I found thissite about 2 months ago and ever since I have applied a lot ofknowledge I have gathered from you all.  I first just want to say thankyou to everyone.

So I found a 4 day split workout and I have stuck to it for the 3 months.
It goes:
Monday   - shoulders, triceps
Tuesday  - Back
Wed       - Rest
Thursday - Chest, biceps
Friday     - legs

At first I was using a lot of machines but now after reading this forumI have slowly moved towards all dumbell and barbell exercises.

My routine has slowly morphed into these exercises:

Every workout I start with 5 minutes of cardio, then I stretch and thenI do random lifts (power clean, squat, ect.) with the 45lb Barbell towarm up.  On each of my heavy lifting exercises I do one warm up setRuffly 1/2 of my intended weight.
Monday:
Shoulders
Clean & Jerk 5x5
DB OHP 4X12,10,8,6 Increasing weight each set
Sometimes I do 3x10 shoulder shrugs too
Bent over side lateral /w cable 3x10
Triceps
JM bench press or close grip Bench press 4x12,10,8,6 increasing weight each set.
Skullcrushers or rope pulldowns 5x12,10,9,7,5  Increasing weight each set

Tuesday:
Back
3x5 deadlift
5x12,10,9,7,5 wide grip pulldowns increase weight each set
4x6-8 Bent over barbell row
Abs
3xto failure Crunches
3x15 dumbell side bends

Wed:
Rest

Thursday:
Chest
5x5 BB bench press or DB bench press
5x12,10,9,7,5 DB flys
5x12,10,9,7,5 incline DB press or dips to failure
Bicep
5x6-8 alternate hammer curls
5x6-8 Reverse grip BB curls for forearms
3xtofailure pullups

Friday:
Legs
5x5 squat
4x6-8 alternate lunges
3x15-20 Calf raises
Abs
3xdecline weighted situps
thinking of adding another ab exercise here

So this is generally what I have been doing lately.  I am not verystrict with doing the exact same routine everytime I might mix up oneof the isolation exercises a little bit with different reps orexercises. I always do the same compoud exercises.

criticism and suggestions very welcome. Thanks

I am 182lbs 5'8 19 years old about 17% BF:
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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:44 PM ( #2 )
I'm not going to say you won't see progress from doing that type of routine but due to the fact you've only been training for a short period of time, I certainly think you would see more progress by having more frequency in your training.  At present you're only working your muscles 1 X weekly and allowing them to recover for 5-6 days.. Simply said, it's a waste of time that you could be training your muscles.. I would suggest doing strictly compound exercises with a good 3 day full body or 4 day upper/lower split..  If your diet is good you'll see some incredible strength and size gains.
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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 7:54 PM ( #3 )
My diet is pretty great now.  It's everything that people suggest.
Could you link me a workout that fits that?

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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:00 PM ( #4 )
Here's a link to a 3 day fullbody routine..
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/3-DAY-FULL-BODY-m303404.aspx

You might want to do a search here on HST. 
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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 8:45 PM ( #5 )
Also when would a routine like the one I have been doing be best?
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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Thursday, August 28, 2008 10:22 PM ( #6 )
never do static stretches before u lift!

u will not be able to reach ur strength potential
Current: 19, 5'11", 190@7%

bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
Goals: 4plate squat, 5plate dead

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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Friday, August 29, 2008 4:20 AM ( #7 )
Chasm378


Also when would a routine like the one I have been doing be best?


When you are at a level where you're training intensity is off the chart and you're pushing your body to the limits with massively heavy weight and your body might actually need 5-7 days to recover. Basically something the average beginner or intermediate lifter will never consistently do.

The average lifter only needs 36-48 hours of recover time before the same muscle can be trained again. 

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Re:My Routine, Critique welcome - Friday, August 29, 2008 6:35 AM ( #8 )
Just wanted to make a comment on the "Training muscle groups once a week" thing...

It's my understanding that the 36-48 hours rule is the MINIMAL amount of time for rest in between workouts.  However, once a week would allow for better recovery time. 

And quite honestly, when most people say that they train their muscles "once a week", like I do, they're not really doing so.  That's b/c of how certain muscles act as synergists on various other exercises (i.e. anterior deltoids on incline bench).

Just my two cents..
Current 4x7's:
Flat Bench: 305lbs  
Back Squat: 405lbs
Deadlift: 315lbs (Stiff-Leg)

Current 1RM Maxes:
Flat Bench: 345lbs
Back Squat: 515lbs

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