Anyone know much about mike mentzers approach to working out?

Apperently he only worked out like once every 4-7 days and was only does 1-2 sets to failure, its kind of interesting seeing as he was huge and did like way less work compared to all the other big bodybuilders of that era

his version of HIT sucked IMO. he basically wouldnt work the same muscle for 12 days and when he did he only did a few sets. HIT can be used effectively but i think the routines posted about how he trained suck

lol, well when your big as that dude let me know what your opinion is till then lets just stick to facts.

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lol, well when your big as that dude let me know what your opinion is till then lets just stick to facts.

the facts? ok what "facts" do u have backing up that thats a superior way to train?

real smart just basing ur opinion off of how big a person is...

ORIGINAL: Creation

Anyone know much about mike mentzers approach to working out?

Apperently he only worked out like once every 4-7 days and was only does 1-2 sets to failure, its kind of interesting seeing as he was huge and did like way less work compared to all the other big bodybuilders of that era

OMG! We should all go and train like Mike Mentzer now. I've wasted so much time.

If I remember it correctly, he is the pioneer of pre-exhaustion method in training.
 
I don't know about him training one muscle group every 4-7 days with 1-2 sets until failure. I also remember reading about him saying he believes calories are calories. It does not matter where it comes from (carb/prot/fat).
 
Well, there are a lot of methods to build muscle. IMO, every person should train the way he or she believes best.

David you responded with a retarded answer i wasnt asking your opinion i was asking if anyone "knew" anything about the way he trained

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David you responded with a retarded answer i wasnt asking your opinion i was asking if anyone "knew" anything about the way he trained

well the answer was just as good as the question

and what do u think "he basically wouldnt work the same muscle for 12 days and when he did he only did a few sets." is?

number 1 thats not correct i know enough to know that he didnt rest for 12 days he did 4-7 days and endless he hit plateaus he would add a few more days of rest.

he would rest 4 days between workouts but his workouts were in splits so it was a while before he would do the same muscle again.

http://www.musclenet.com/mikementzerheavyduty.htm look at that, he goes 16 days without hitting the same muscle gain. completely ridiculous IMO

there we go thats the kind apost i was looking for david ;p

hmm its interesting i will say, but i dunno all in all it comes down to genetics everyone recovers at a different pace i think his workout can work for anyone but obviously your going to have to hit the weights with some BRUTE strength and go to true failure

We do know that when you train to complete failure it takes more than 72 hours to "fully" recover.

i may acutally try this after my 12 week of Iforce

This is going to get taken badley, but I have to know....

You seem to always look for a gimmick, Creation, all the supplements (+), the bizzar routines you are interested in?

Don't take this the wrong way (how else can you take it ), are you a really hard gainer or something?

Are you making any progress? 

ORIGINAL: thehardway

This is going to get taken badley, but I have to know....

You seem to always look for a gimmick, Creation, all the supplements (+), the bizzar routines you are interested in?

Don't take this the wrong way (how else can you take it ), are you a really hard gainer or something?

Are you making any progress? 

There are a couple boys in this thread to which that could apply...

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ORIGINAL: thehardway

This is going to get taken badley, but I have to know....

You seem to always look for a gimmick, Creation, all the supplements (+), the bizzar routines you are interested in?

Don't take this the wrong way (how else can you take it ), are you a really hard gainer or something?

Are you making any progress? 

There are a couple boys in this thread to which that could apply...

I agree with both of yall, hardway and ripped. Its hard not to look for that magic easy button though. For about the first 14 months of my training I was positive I just needed to find that magic routine, or that magic supplement.

Was actually a relief when I realized all you really have to do is eat enough to feed 3 people and workout for years.

The thing is.. with some of these early HIT workouts.. you look at Mike Mentzer and think..

I can do that!

But you fail to realize that nobody I personally have witness in any gym, including myself.. has ever trained as hard as Mike Mentzer appears to have trained.

His system worked for him.  That's all that truly matters.

If you even wanted to train like Mike, you've need to put forth the effort.  I don't honestly think most of us are capable of truly taking a set to absolute, mind-blowing failure.  Momentary muscular failure or positive failure with a buddy helping on a rep...

Sure.  But 100% complete effort to 100% complete failure?

I experimented with that 1 set to failure training.  I never put forth the true effort necessary.  I just didn't feel up to it, I didn't have a spotter and it wasn't my style.

Many newer programs and ones after took those ideas and adapted them 9 ways to Sunday.  Everything works to a degree for everybody.  But how well it works for you depends on several factors.

One of which is intensity.  Mike had a unique style.

Simply following his routine is not enough.  You'd need to understand the intensity the Mike put forth.  It makes total sense he could or would only train that way with long periods of a body part layoff.  It's not possible to do what he did and come back a day and half later and repeat.  If you could, then you didn't put forth the effort he did.

I've read a lot of his stuff along with Daren, Boyer Coe.. etc.  Those guys trained at a level you just don't see a lot.  Pure, focused energy.  There are people who can and do, but it's rare and infrequent.

Most of us tend to workout more frequently at a lower overall intensity so that we can repeat the process and still chit chat in the gym. 

Nobody can argue that Mike's style worked for Mike.  He found what built him a massive physique and he stuck to it.  That's how we all should work.  Striving to find our ideals for our own body types and applying the fundamentals we've learned over time to our situations.