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Eating oatmeal at night

Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?
 
Thanks guys! I really appreciate it
 
p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 06:04:01 (permalink)
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    A nighttime snack is a good idea, but eating food with a high carb content is not.  Your body does not burn many carbs at night, so most of them will be stored as fat (assuming that you're getting plenty carbs during the day.  Your body does, however, continue to make use of protein and fat).  You can - and probably should - plan a low carb nighttime snack in your diet, just be aware that those calories count.  As for a low-calorie snack just for fending off hunger.. broccoli, peanut butter (just a bit!), and about 500ml of water works pretty well for me. 

    Not sure if that will help much for the dizziness, though.  That doesn't sound right, does anyone else get dizzy while cutting?  How many kcals are you getting each day?
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 06:45:07 (permalink)
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    Getting about 2000 calories per day. Would you say a peanut butter sandwich is fine? (BTW I just realized I prolly gotta up the green tea too hehe)
     
    I think the heat here in the Philippines contributes to the dizziness. Hunger+heat = dizzy carlos

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 07:18:14 (permalink)
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    If you're exercising at night then carbs would be fine and potentially beneficial but if you're exercising earlier in the day I would limit carbs at night unless you handle them well.
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 12:47:57 (permalink)
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    Why dont you have an egg/ham/cheese, over a salad?

    Or low fat/no fat Yoghurt with some fruit/berries?

    Carrots with a yoghurt dip? (You can pretty much stuff yourself with carrots and not **** up your diet)
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 14:37:27 (permalink)
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    2000 kcal seems pretty low especially if you're quite active, which I'm assuming you are.

    I try to keep nights as low-carb as possible whether I'm bulking or cutting.  I do have some rice with dinner cos I usually work out in the evening.  But IMO carbs should be avoided for nighttime snacks.  Which means no bread (i.e. sandwiches).  Personally wouldn't go for yogurt or fruit either.
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 15:02:43 (permalink)
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    Just a suggestion, but water is a good natural appetite suppressant so when you start craving carbs you could drink a lot of water instead.

    Anyway listen to snatchula.
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/13 15:15:41 (permalink)
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    appetite suppressant so when you start craving carbs you could drink a lot of water instead. Anyway listen to snatchula.
    great words....

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/14 05:01:57 (permalink)
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    Hey guys thanks for the advice! Will try the yogurt instead of the oatmeal!

    Snatchula, oh so 2,000 is a bit low? Hmm... About how many should I be getting? 2,500? True, I am quite active, I train 6 days a week, 2x a day for 5 of those
     
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    173 cm
    80.2kg
    14.3% BF
     
    Just started cutting last week, hope to get that 14.3% lower!
     

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/14 06:18:30 (permalink)
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    Cottage Cheese is great for late night snack.

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/15 00:25:25 (permalink)
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    2000 kcal is definitely low, especially with so much training. You're probably burning well over 3000 kcal per day. With such a high caloric deficit, you run a risk of losing more muscle than necessary. I'm guessing this is a major shift in your diet, in a very short period of time. Your body will try to adapt to that, so it is likely that after some time your fat loss will slow down dramatically. Not to mention that your energy levels, and thus athletic performance, likely will suffer greatly. It is generally recommended to shave calories off of your intake slowly, over a period of, say, a couple weeks. Going from an athlete's diet one day to a 115-lb girl's diet the next is not a good idea.

    What was your diet like before?

    I plugged your stats into a calorie calculator, which says you're burning around 3250 kcal/day. Of course this depends on how long and hard you're training. Training twice a day, I think you're probably burning more than that. But going by that number, 2500 kcals would get you about 1.5 lbs fat loss per week, which would get you under 10% bf in two months. Most people recommend a 500 kcal daily deficit. That would get you there in about 10 weeks.

    If I were you I'd try about 2750 kcal/day for a couple weeks. Take measurements before and after, and if you're not happy you can cut a little more. I would NOT go below 2500 kcal/day with your activity level.

    How much time do you have before you weigh in?

    What is your goal for fat loss?

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/15 05:12:02 (permalink)
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    snatchula

    2000 kcal is definitely low, especially with so much training. You're probably burning well over 3000 kcal per day. With such a high caloric deficit, you run a risk of losing more muscle than necessary. I'm guessing this is a major shift in your diet, in a very short period of time. Your body will try to adapt to that, so it is likely that after some time your fat loss will slow down dramatically. Not to mention that your energy levels, and thus athletic performance, likely will suffer greatly. It is generally recommended to shave calories off of your intake slowly, over a period of, say, a couple weeks. Going from an athlete's diet one day to a 115-lb girl's diet the next is not a good idea.

    What was your diet like before?

    I plugged your stats into a calorie calculator, which says you're burning around 3250 kcal/day. Of course this depends on how long and hard you're training. Training twice a day, I think you're probably burning more than that. But going by that number, 2500 kcals would get you about 1.5 lbs fat loss per week, which would get you under 10% bf in two months. Most people recommend a 500 kcal daily deficit. That would get you there in about 10 weeks.

    If I were you I'd try about 2750 kcal/day for a couple weeks. Take measurements before and after, and if you're not happy you can cut a little more. I would NOT go below 2500 kcal/day with your activity level.

    How much time do you have before you weigh in?

    What is your goal for fat loss?


     
    My diet before wasn't regulated at all... 4 meals a day and snacking... Real bad stuff hehe. The weigh in is May 1. Trying to stay in the middleweight division 76.1- 82.0 kg ( Medio - Middleweight) the problem is that the weigh-ins are with the Gi and headgear ON. So that's about 5-6 lb's for my Gi cause of the weave + the ear protectors. I dunno if going to the lightweight division (70.1- 76 kg ( Leve - Lightweight)) is  very realistic...

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/01/16 00:12:35 (permalink)
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    I don't understand.  If you want to stay in the middleweight division, you don't even need to cut.  Maybe a couple pounds for the equipment, but that's all.  Definitely not worth starving yourself over.

    If you do want to drop down to lightweight, you'd need to lose about 6.8 kg.  If that were all fat, it would leave you at just over 6% bf, which I imagine would be pretty difficult.  But some of the weight loss likely will be lean mass, especially if you stick with that awful 2000 kcal diet.  You can drop a fair amount of water weight in the days leading up to the weigh-in.  I'm sure you're well aware that the weight loss doesn't all have to be fat.  I don't think dropping down to lightweight is completely out of reach, if indeed that is what you want to do. 
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/02/01 12:22:34 (permalink)
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    CarlosJesena

    Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?
     
    Thanks guys! I really appreciate it
     
    p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.


    if you want the absolute best bedtime snack, go out and buy yourself some cottage cheese and mix in fruits like pineapple or strawberries or peaches with it.  i could eat that stuff alllllll dayyyyy lonnnng
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/02/01 16:30:45 (permalink)
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    CarlosJesena

    Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?

    Thanks guys! I really appreciate it

    p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.


    if you want the absolute best bedtime snack, go out and buy yourself some cottage cheese and mix in fruits like pineapple or strawberries or peaches with it.  i could eat that stuff alllllll dayyyyy lonnnng



    not good advice! you want to avoid simple sugars and carbs for that matter like the plague before u go to sleep

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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/02/01 16:36:46 (permalink)
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    CarlosJesena

    Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?

    Thanks guys! I really appreciate it

    p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.


    if you want the absolute best bedtime snack, go out and buy yourself some cottage cheese and mix in fruits like pineapple or strawberries or peaches with it.  i could eat that stuff alllllll dayyyyy lonnnng



    not good advice! you want to avoid simple sugars and carbs for that matter like the plague before u go to sleep


    cottage cheese by itself has about 6 grams of sugar and a good amount of protein....the casein in cottage cheese is really good before going to bed because it basically turns to gel in your stomach and is absorbed slower.  the sugars from fruits aren't going to hurt that much at all....if you eat a small amount of pineapple or peach with cottage cheese it's pretty good for you.  nothing close to the plague.  i could name 1000000 worse foods to eat before you go to bed
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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/02/01 17:05:44 (permalink)
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    CarlosJesena

    Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?

    Thanks guys! I really appreciate it

    p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.


    if you want the absolute best bedtime snack, go out and buy yourself some cottage cheese and mix in fruits like pineapple or strawberries or peaches with it.  i could eat that stuff alllllll dayyyyy lonnnng



    not good advice! you want to avoid simple sugars and carbs for that matter like the plague before u go to sleep


    cottage cheese by itself has about 6 grams of sugar and a good amount of protein....the casein in cottage cheese is really good before going to bed because it basically turns to gel in your stomach and is absorbed slower.  the sugars from fruits aren't going to hurt that much at all....if you eat a small amount of pineapple or peach with cottage cheese it's pretty good for you.  nothing close to the plague.  i could name 1000000 worse foods to eat before you go to bed
     

    i never said that cottage cheese before bed is bed

    I eat cottage cheese before i go to sleep every night.

    But advocating eating simple sugars like fruit before u got to sleep is just no the best idea. I dont care if they are low GI



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    Re:Eating oatmeal at night 2010/02/01 20:54:13 (permalink)
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    CarlosJesena

    Hey guys, is eating oatmeal at night (to stave off that evening hunger) ok? I'm trying to cut weight (I hate Brazilian Jiu Jitsu competition weight classes ) but I'm having difficulty with the hunger pangs (I get dizzy and can't focus on homework hehe). So if oatmeal at night isn't ok, any advice for me?

    Thanks guys! I really appreciate it

    p.s. I forgot to say, I've got my diet in check and no sugary drinks/soda at all.


    if you want the absolute best bedtime snack, go out and buy yourself some cottage cheese and mix in fruits like pineapple or strawberries or peaches with it.  i could eat that stuff alllllll dayyyyy lonnnng



    not good advice! you want to avoid simple sugars and carbs for that matter like the plague before u go to sleep


    cottage cheese by itself has about 6 grams of sugar and a good amount of protein....the casein in cottage cheese is really good before going to bed because it basically turns to gel in your stomach and is absorbed slower.  the sugars from fruits aren't going to hurt that much at all....if you eat a small amount of pineapple or peach with cottage cheese it's pretty good for you.  nothing close to the plague.  i could name 1000000 worse foods to eat before you go to bed
     

    i never said that cottage cheese before bed is bed

    I eat cottage cheese before i go to sleep every night.

    But advocating eating simple sugars like fruit before u got to sleep is just no the best idea. I dont care if they are low GI


    the effects of the simple sugars found in fruits and their effects on the body are minimal.  honestly, it's not going to make much of a difference at all.  and it's not like i said to eat a whole pineapple or peach....so the sugar would be in minimal amounts
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