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2007/05/23 21:13:46 (permalink)
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Potatoes = good or bad?

someone was telling me how potatoes are bad for you.. and well ive heard the opposite however i have heard that potatoes are almost simple sugars and that they easily become mono / disacharides or w/e and can spike your insulin resulting in a potato = a good way to store some extra bodyfat.
 
this be true or false?????

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/24 03:55:33 (permalink)
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    I am no nutrition expert, but I know potatoes are good for you.
    Starcy carbs bro.
    BTW, what happens to you is really aphaling. I read your other thread, and was shocked by the lack of sleep you've experienced due to insomnia.

    Hope you get well soon, my friend.

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/24 07:24:11 (permalink)
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    I think I heard someone say potatos aren't ideal because of their GI. This would only come into account if you were eating them by themselves though. Hopefully, you eat complete meals (5-6 a day) that include a lean protein as well as your carbs. This meal's GI will be better and that's all you should care about. I would not be hesitant about eating potatos.
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/24 07:37:06 (permalink)
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    Spot on. Gi doesn't matter when you eat complete meals (Lean protein , fibrous carb and complex carb). Potatoes are an excellent source of potassium
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 12:28:16 (permalink)
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    As has been noted, the digestive effect of all foods (including potatoes, which are starchy by nature) is moderated when combined with other foods. Specifically, higher glycemic foods can be measurably subdued when eating protein and/or fats at the same time.

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 12:43:01 (permalink)
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    I love potatoes.
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 14:30:11 (permalink)
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    If you wan't an easy way to gain fat, eat potatos


    Wow. Thank you Professor Atkins.
     
    Just curious, what starchy carbs do you choose?
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 16:15:14 (permalink)
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    If you wan't [sic] an easy way to gain fat, eat potatos [sic]

    Take a lesson about body fat, general nutrition & fitness from Clarence Bass (the last pic is at age 60 ... and he's still setting lifting PRs at his current age of 69). He's pretty darn lean, isn't he? In any event, this is what he has to say about potatoes:

    No discussion of produce would be complete without a word or two about the much-maligned potato. “Potatoes are decent vegetables that have been unfairly criticized,” Nelson and Lichtenstein write. “Their skin is a decent source of fiber, and the fleshy part contains lots of potassium and a reasonable amount of vitamin C, along with other nutrients.”
     
    Potatoes are starchier than other vegetables, and they do contain more carbs. “Think of potatoes as a grain rather than a vegetable,” the Tuft’s professors suggest. “That is, they’re not instead of broccoli; they’re instead of bread, rice, or pasta.
     
    Carol and I often share a big baked potato at dinner, but almost never with butter or sour cream and chives; Balsamic vinegar or non-fat yogurt is our favorite topping. Needless to say, we rarely eat French fries, which are loaded with salt and extra calories—and, according to Nelson and Lichtenstein, often contain trans-fatty acids because of the fat in which they are fried. We steer clear of potato chips for the same reasons.
     
    Any kind of plain, unembellished vegetable or fruit is good. A wide variety is best. Try to include several different colors in each meal; green, red, yellow, make your plate look like a rainbow. For example, sliced carrots and a few cherries or slices of watermelon go well with a nut-butter sandwich at lunch. Broccoli, sweet potato and a green salad with tomatoes enliven any dinner. Use your imagination and you can’t go wrong.

     
     

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 18:53:06 (permalink)
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    Good luck at getting more lean than Clarence (normally at less than 6% body fat, even at 69 years old). As indicated, he eats potatoes (I think I'm safe eating them too). Stand on the shoulders of giants -- learn from the masters that have gone (and are still going) before us.

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 19:02:41 (permalink)
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    Stand on the shoulders of giants -- learn from the masters that have gone (and are still going) before us.

     
    And your mom?
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/26 19:06:49 (permalink)
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    Um ... excuse me? Can you please explain what you mean?

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/27 11:54:22 (permalink)
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    Um ... excuse me? Can you please explain what you mean?

     
    Yah, potatos aren't the best of foods regarding eating healthy. My mom who is a doctor and works with diabetes patients told me this: Eating a potato is like eating a candy bar

     
    Just making your point, we can listen to other health gurus and bodybuilders who have gotten where many of us want to be, or we can listen to BigAce's mom.
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/27 12:58:35 (permalink)
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    quote:

    Um ... excuse me? Can you please explain what you mean?



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    Yah, potatos aren't the best of foods regarding eating healthy. My mom who is a doctor and works with diabetes patients told me this: Eating a potato is like eating a candy bar



    Just making your point, we can listen to other health gurus and bodybuilders who have gotten where many of us want to be, or we can listen to BigAce's mom.

     
    good point cowboy
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/27 14:00:22 (permalink)
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    Thanks for clarifying for me, CowboyMouth. I understand now.
     
    Note that his mom is right about how blood sugar responds to potatoes (and other foods that are higher on the Glycemic Index) -- but it's also true that its effect can be manipulated by including other foods (as previously noted). 
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/27 14:18:40 (permalink)
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    sweet potato's=amazing
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/27 16:16:34 (permalink)
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    Only a few other foods are as wholesome as a potato. Not only does it contain complex carbohydrates, but it also supplies protein and ample vitamins and minerals.

    Potatoe varieties (tubers -- a swollen underground stem, not a root) include:
    • long russet potatoes
    • long white potatoes
    • Round red potatoes
    • Round white potatoes
    Yes, sweet potatoes are a great alternative choice. They are among the most nutritious foods in the vegetable kingdom. They also offer an intense natural sweetness (produced by an enzyme inthe potato that converts most of its starches to sugars as the potato matures). This sweetness continues to increase during storage, and when the potato is cooked. Note that the sweet potato is really not related to the white potato, but is a member of the morning glory family.

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/28 16:41:55 (permalink)
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    I know a lot more curly fry, cheesy fry, potato loving fat asses than skinny ones. I didn't use my mother as a target point for you to use your subliminal insults. Go head, shove potatoes up both holes if you like it, I ain't stoppin you. 


    When we speak of eating potatoes, we don't mean french fries or cheese fries. No one here is going to argue on the fact those products are horrible for your health. A baked potato loaded with butter, sour cream, cheese and bacon is obviously bad for you too. Well, actually the potato isn't, just the crap on top of it.

    When you post things like 'Want a sure way to get fat? Eat potatoes.' or 'My mom, the doctor, says potatoes are equivalent to candy bars', expect to get criticized. This is not good information and can cause confusion.

    Oh and my insult wasn't subliminal. But I am working on this black and white spiral flash program. I've tested it on a few subjects and after looking at it for 5 minutes each walked away muttering 'BigAce's mom is a big potato-head.' Now that's subliminal.
    post edited by CowboyMouth - 2007/05/28 16:45:49
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/28 21:29:03 (permalink)
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    lol..
     
    love how my topic went from potatoes to god knows whos mom.
     
    anyway i KNOW that deep fried potatoes and potatoes with butter n stuff are bad im asking plain old potato cooked on a microwave with no condiments.

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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/29 07:25:47 (permalink)
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    anyway i KNOW that deep fried potatoes and potatoes with butter n stuff are bad im asking plain old potato cooked on a microwave with no condiments.

     
    And I think most of us are saying, please don't be afraid of potatoes. These are a high quality, staple food for bodybuilding. There aren't many better choices for starchy carbs than potatoes - oatmeal and yams are up there. The point is, depending on who you listen to, anything can be twisted to sound good or bad. It gets confusing as you can find online or in books, long detailed reasons why good foods are actually bad.
     
    With enough chemistry one person can write a full article on why fruits are bad for you and you should always cut out any fruits from your diet. Then another article can convince you with just as much chemistry, why this isn't true. This can happen with any food and almost always does. Look at trends in diets throughout the years. There have been diets that say all fat is bad, all carbs are bad, all simple or frutose are bad, even diets saying to limit protein. Hell, there are even diets that tell you to limit water! These are the lose 20 pounds in a week diets you see in super market shelves.
     
    I'm saying you have to watch out for misinformation like this. A balanced diet consisting of carbs/protein/and fat is best. And its best to have high quality carbs and high quality fats. This has been true for a long time and it will continue to be true as more and more fad diets come and go. And I personally am not going to stop eating potatoes because some kid who doesn't know the difference between a plain baked potato, cheese-covered french fries and a milky way tells me I should.
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    RE: Potatoes = good or bad? 2007/05/29 09:10:19 (permalink)
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    BigAce wrote:
    As a GENERAL RULE potatoes are a starchy, fattening product.

    I'm sorry, but this is NOT true as a general rule. Yes, they are starchy, but so are a number of healthy foods. ANY food can be abused, as you point out, but that hardly makes the food a "fattening product". My 83 year old father (who is not a bodybuilder) has been eating potatoes all his life and sports a body that has minimal fat (6'-0" tall, 155-lbs).
     
    I've noted the opinion of one very credible source who IS a bodybuilder (for 50-plus years now). He eats potatoes. Here's Clarence Bass at 69-years old: click

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