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M1T - 1/17/2005 2:46:18 PM   
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i need some help with m1t! how long do i stay on it for? the bottle says 2-3 weeks but i have heard of people staying on longer.
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RE: M1T - 1/17/2005 3:20:42 PM   
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Nobody really knows, at the necessary testing has never been done.

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RE: M1T - 1/18/2005 6:52:43 AM   
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Why do you want to try Methyl One-Test? What is your age, diet, and exercise routine? Have you checked the other discussions relating to this topic?

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RE: M1T - 1/18/2005 9:05:58 AM   
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The vast majority of people buying and using products like M1T don't need them. But since your using it, you might as well go ahead and buy some 6-0x0 and some tribulus to help your body start producing its own test once your done with the M1T cycle.

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 8:20:06 AM   
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i need some help with m1t! how long do i stay on it for? the bottle says 2-3 weeks but i have heard of people staying on longer.


I take it you've already taken the plunge and purchased some without actually finding out what it is you're getting, correct?

Providing your diet and training is solid, it's advisable not to do more than 2-3 weeks at a time, probably less than three cycles a year because of liver toxicity.

Start with a low daily dose (5mg) and assess how it affects you. If you feel the need to go up in dose, maybe try 10mg, but be very careful. just because it is/was legal does not mean it is not a dangerous compound.

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 1:56:52 PM   
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I also have a bottle of M1T that I will be stacking with the VPX Liposomal EQ (1,4 Androstediene-3 diol 250 mg).

I already have been in a bulking phase taking in approx 3500 calories a day for about 3 months now. I'm 5'7 and just topped 175 and want to hit 185 before I start cutting.

My diet and lifting routine are in perfect shape but do have some questions in regards to taking supplements in my off cycle.

I have already purchased the 6-OXO and milk thistle but would you recommend taking something to also boost natural Test.? I am looking at the BBS MuscleJack (Longfolia Jack and Tribulus) or either the Nutrex Vitrix (Tribulus and Logfolia Jack blend).

Also I have read that it's best to gradually minimize the dosage of the PH's the last 3 days and then start the 6-OXO on the last 3 days as well continuing for another 7 days and then drop to half the dosage. Or should I just do a 2 week cycle and then the next day start with the 6-OXO?

And my last question is; should the milk thistle be taken while on the pro hormones or in the off cycle?

Thanks again,

Eric.

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 3:09:10 PM   
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i took this product for 2 weeks at 10mg per day. no huge gains at all!!! it did however make me lethargic and irritable. i am sticking to protein and creatine from now on. in my opinion it's not worth taking. i have seen better results from increasing my caloric intake and cell tech.


FYI: 24 years old, working out for 6 months, 5' 8" 188 lbs. 13% bodyfat. started out 6 months ago at 162 lbs. and 20% bodyfat.

always looking for suggestions and help...

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 4:19:47 PM   
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Hmm... I did the 1Test a while back and gained 12lbs, kept 8lbs..

I will take a before and after picture and a 3 month picture and let you guys determine for yourselves.

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 4:33:04 PM   
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I have already purchased the 6-OXO and milk thistle but would you recommend taking something to also boost natural Test.?


During the cycle or for post-cycle?

there's no point using something like that during cycle. The M1T is strong enough to give you gains.

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Also I have read that it's best to gradually minimize the dosage of the PH's the last 3 days and then start the 6-OXO on the last 3 days as well continuing for another 7 days and then drop to half the dosage. Or should I just do a 2 week cycle and then the next day start with the 6-OXO?


Working down on the PH is gonna depend on what dose you're using. If you're on 10mg M1T a day there isn't much point.

I wouldn't start the 6-OXO for PCT during the cycle. When i used M1T, i started PCT the day after my last M1T dose, but i kept the positive side effects (pumps, strength, aggression) and the bad (lethary, fatigue) for about a week and a bit after, so i'm beginning to think the half life of M1T is more than 24hrs.

If i run M1T again, i'm gonna give it 2-3 days after my last dose before i start the PCT. You may wish to be cautious on your first cycle and start PCT straight away. It may be a good idea because it may not have the same affect on you.

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And my last question is; should the milk thistle be taken while on the pro hormones or in the off cycle?


There's talk about milk thisstle interfering with methyl PH absorption, but due to the toxicity of methyls, especially M1T, i think it's a good idea to use milk thistle from the start of your cycle, and for several weeks afterwards.

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RE: M1T - 1/20/2005 4:43:43 PM   
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I have already purchased the 6-OXO and milk thistle but would you recommend taking something to also boost natural Test.?


During the cycle or for post-cycle?

there's no point using something like that during cycle. The M1T is strong enough to give you gains.

Sorry for the lack of clarification... this (Longfolia Jack/Tribulus) would be taken durring PCT.

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Also I have read that it's best to gradually minimize the dosage of the PH's the last 3 days and then start the 6-OXO on the last 3 days as well continuing for another 7 days and then drop to half the dosage. Or should I just do a 2 week cycle and then the next day start with the 6-OXO?


Working down on the PH is gonna depend on what dose you're using. If you're on 10mg M1T a day there isn't much point.

I weigh 175 so I don't think I will be doing over 10mg a day. Good to know.

I wouldn't start the 6-OXO for PCT during the cycle. When i used M1T, i started PCT the day after my last M1T dose, but i kept the positive side effects (pumps, strength, aggression) and the bad (lethary, fatigue) for about a week and a bit after, so i'm beginning to think the half life of M1T is more than 24hrs.

If i run M1T again, i'm gonna give it 2-3 days after my last dose before i start the PCT. You may wish to be cautious on your first cycle and start PCT straight away. It may be a good idea because it may not have the same affect on you.

I think I know my body pretty good so I will def watch out for that but I will start day after my last dose.

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And my last question is; should the milk thistle be taken while on the pro hormones or in the off cycle?


There's talk about milk thisstle interfering with methyl PH absorption, but due to the toxicity of methyls, especially M1T, i think it's a good idea to use milk thistle from the start of your cycle, and for several weeks afterwards.



Thanks for the response... name change threw me off.

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RE: M1T - 1/21/2005 12:53:43 AM   
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ahloo....i've been looking into m1t for a while now (have no experience with any PH's or Roids what=so-ever); but from some info that i have gathered.... m1t does hit your endogenous T hard.... therefore weaning off of it is a good idea as to not be too hard on your system.... ie:

10mg week1 (7days)
10mg week2 (4days)
5mg week2 (3days) and start PCT along with 1st day of 5mg m1t (if possible take 5mg and split it>>>> 2.5mg every 12 hours or 8 hour gap after 1st 2.5mg)

PCT would probably be a good idea to start the 6oxo.... like you mentioned earlier; yes it's true that you will still have m1t in your system, but starting 6oxo will sort of provide a loading dose so that when your totally cease m1t, 6oxo will already be enough in your system to start assisting....tribulus, with long jack would probably be a good idea as well!!!! This is just my suggestion; as i have mentioned, i have never done this myself; however, i am also very cautious!!!!Smile

Now if 10mg doesn't do it for you because of your size.... then possibly go up to 20mg for at least 2 days during your cycle and give it a try; most manufacturers do put that on their bottle.... and i've also heard others bumping it up even higher....but i say just follow the bottle because manufacturers will often post a safe dosing (for their sake of not getting sued)!!!! Smile

A personal note.... if you are going to take 6oxo, i would recommend that you also wean yourself off of it while your still on tribulus & long jack!!!!

There are also numerous opinions on taking liver support such as milk thistle while on m1t (or any methylated products).... some say this defeats the purpose of methylating a product because that is its purpose (to prevent the liver from destroying what it's protecting by bombarding the liver with the methyl)....some say that it's better to be safe by having the liver stay as healthy as it can while on methyls by providing some support (doing so will probably cause your body to take in a little less than it would have taken in if there was no liver support)!!!! hummmm....so i guess you will have to weigh this one for yourself....you can get more for your buck or better be safe than sorry!!!! what to choose????

I am a little troubled with this myself....cause you can get a little more and just have youir liver fully recover with a long off time; after all the liver will be trashed again in a few hours even after helping it clean up!!!! BUT WAIT....at least i am helping my liver clean up and not let the junk pill up really high and cause me to have a problem cleaning later on!!!! hummmmnnnn as you can see this is a delemma!!!! darn!!!! SmileSmileSmileSmileSmileSmile

I hope this will you guide you in your decision!!!! Tell us what you decide and tell MEEEE what your results are.... i'm eager to learn!!!! sorry if it sounds like i'm making you my guinea pig because i basically am....Smile just kidding.... i hope things do work out for you and please do let us know of your progress & decision!!!! Smile

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RE: M1T - 1/21/2005 3:15:38 AM   
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ORIGINAL: JonesersRX7

Thanks for the response... name change threw me off.


No problem. Realise i'm not Twin Peak though. :)

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RE: M1T - 1/21/2005 2:15:25 PM   
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Your avatar is confusing people.

I still get called "Ninja Squirrel" by some of the old timers here...I decided to change it because someone else picked that avatar and people got confused.

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