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Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 8:54:09 AM   
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I went and had my testosterone levels tested and it is low. My doctor told me this is something that happens to guys when they turn 30 but mine is much to low. He put me on some Testim gel. He said that should raise my testosterone levels. I will have them checked again in a month. I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea. I want to help my body in any way to get my testosterone levels back up.
 
Also what would be a good testosterone supplement to take?
     

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:02:29 AM   
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I went and had my testosterone levels tested and it is low. My doctor told me this is something that happens to guys when they turn 30 but mine is much to low. He put me on some Testim gel. He said that should raise my testosterone levels. I will have them checked again in a month. I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea. I want to help my body in any way to get my testosterone levels back up.
 
Also what would be a good testosterone supplement to take?
     

Do you smoke marijuana?... How many times a week/month?

How many times do you masturbate/have sex a week?

Do you wear boxers or do you wear briefs?


Good Luck! :)

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:13:03 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ddog27

I went and had my testosterone levels tested and it is low. My doctor told me this is something that happens to guys when they turn 30 but mine is much to low. He put me on some Testim gel. He said that should raise my testosterone levels. I will have them checked again in a month. I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea. I want to help my body in any way to get my testosterone levels back up.
 
Also what would be a good testosterone supplement to take?
     

Do you smoke marijuana?
No

How many times do you masturbate/have sex a week?
2-3 times a week.

Do you wear boxers or do you wear briefs?
Boxers


Good Luck! :)


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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:26:38 AM   
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sex and masturbation have nothing to do with testosterone levels..... you don't squirt out your free test.

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:36:15 AM   
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....this is kinda weird topics for test...but w/e you can rasie test by doing more leg days and ive heard some good/bad things about the Gear cycle by fizogen persanly i liked it

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:39:29 AM   
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I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea.


Not without your doctor's approval. 

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 9:41:27 AM   
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I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea.


Not without your doctor's approval. 


I agree! I would run it by him first. I was just gathering people's opinions.

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 10:05:50 AM   
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sex and masturbation have nothing to do with testosterone levels..... you don't squirt out your free test.

Negative moralski...

"Testosterone Profile:
Testosterone is responsible for muscle growth, and muscle growth does not occur in its absence. Consequently, athletes go to great lengths to boost testosterone levels. Athletes may take a variety of herbs, vitamins, minerals, prohormones, prosteroids, and even illegal steroids, to boost their testosterone levels and performance.
 
Nutritional supplements are effective at altering hormone levels, but many lose effectiveness over time as the body down-regulates its natural production of substances as a response to exogenous influence. Muscle growth can stop when this occurs.
 
Elevating testosterone levels naturally is achieved by correctly applying sound training, nutrition and sexual protocols. Scientific literature and anecdote testify to the effects of nutrition, exercise, and recovery on muscle growth, but the correct application of sexual activity as a method of boosting muscle growth is only now being studied seriously.
 
Chinese researchers conducted a study in 2003, and enlisted twenty-eight male volunteers to abstain from ejaculation for a period of one week. The participants were tested daily for deviations on serum testosterone levels. The Chinese study was the first to measure the influence of ejaculation frequency on serum testosterone levels, and the results are provocative.
 
Researchers found that abstaining from ejaculation for six days had no impact on serum testosterone levels. On the seventh day, serum testosterone levels peaked to 145.7% of baseline, and then declined rapidly on the eighth day.7,8
 
Researchers believe testosterone declined on day eight from the negative feedback suppression of Leutinizing hormone secretion. Leutinizing hormone is essential for testosterone production, and LH determines free testosterone levels. Suppression of LH would decrease serum testosterone levels, returning them to baseline. The study determined that the frequency of sexual activity and ejaculation impacted testosterone levels.
 
By postponing ejaculation for seven days, testosterone levels spike. This testosterone spike is thought efficacious for muscle building and recovery. "
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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 10:12:17 AM   
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ORIGINAL: ddog27

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ORIGINAL: TIHulk

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ORIGINAL: ddog27

I went and had my testosterone levels tested and it is low. My doctor told me this is something that happens to guys when they turn 30 but mine is much to low. He put me on some Testim gel. He said that should raise my testosterone levels. I will have them checked again in a month. I was wondering if taking a testosterone boosting supplement while I am taking the testosterone would be a good idea. I want to help my body in any way to get my testosterone levels back up.
 
Also what would be a good testosterone supplement to take?
     

Do you smoke marijuana?
No

How many times do you masturbate/have sex a week?
2-3 times a week.

Do you wear boxers or do you wear briefs?
Boxers


Good Luck! :)

 
I for one wouldn't take that medication but that's just me!... I would try the above method first, check for testosterone levels and if it does you not much good then take the medication as a last resort!!! The natural way is always better than the artificial!!!
 
Good Luck & Get Well! :)

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 10:31:16 AM   
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so what he is saying is dont jack off for a week and I might see some better muscle building results?....damn

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 10:32:15 AM   
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maybe i stand corrected but i'd rather do my hot girlfriend than have a little more test.

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 11:04:59 AM   
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so the ganja=bad for test?

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 11:37:23 AM   
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maybe i stand corrected but i'd rather do my hot girlfriend than have a little more test.

Hehe!... User Posted Image Check this poll out (near the bottom of the page): http://www.bodybuilding.com/fun/south99.htm
(Poll Question=Would You Abstain From Sex To Increase Your Training/Competition Performance? Results = Yes=3587[44.2%]; Hell No!=4537[55.8%]; Total Votes=8124)


A little more test???... IMO a ~50% (precisely a 45.7% increase) increase is more than a little!!!

Good Luck buddy! Smile

(PS. - If you restrain for this long your ejaculations will be more intense on the 7th-8th day!... I don't and I'm not saying you should!... Maybe I will when I hit a wall (plateau) and stop seeing gains unless I reach my goal when I stop seeing gains!... As I said before: The natural way (this) is always better than the artificial (roids etc.)!!!... And if you do it the artificial way (roids etc.) you won't be able to ejaculate anyway as a result of some the side effects: testicular shrinkage & impotence!... Be healthy!!!)

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 12:08:20 PM   
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so the ganja=bad for test?

User Posted Image Smoking marijuana (ganja, dope, cannabis, grass, weed, mary jane, bud etc.) on a regular or even occasional bases (on a lesser degree) is known to stunt growth (that is if you engage in smoking before the end of puberty [for some late bloomers this may be around the age of 24!] & stop reproductive abilities (sterility)... The reason for this is that basically the psychoactive ingredient in cannabis (Tetra-hydro-cannabinol or THC) reduces the lutenising hormone (LH) in the genitals. LH triggers ovulation in women and is involved in sperm production in men. (There is also a significant drop in testosterone levels [search for accuracy still pending]!) The result: a short-term (four to five hour) decrease in reproductive ability (sterility; a risky birth control method). They say that long term cannabis users build tolerance to this effect and are immune, maybe, maybe not!

Be healthy! User Posted Image

(PS. - I've read in some places of guys developing breasts [gynecomastia Smile ] from chronic smoking User Posted Image of marijuana [Check it out: http://www.teenhealthfx.com/answers/Alcohol/3345.html]... The same can happen for people taking certain steroids!... Specifically "Dianabol" (or "Methandrostenolone"... This should explain Arnolds huge pecs!!! User Posted Image Hehe!!!) which converts to estrogen! [Or so I read!])

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 12:25:30 PM   
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i posted a post awhile back in the 30+ age forum about low testostarone. i dunno if it will be any help but ill post the link if you wanna check it out, but let me warn you its a long read.

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/low_testostaronelong_read/m_124148/tm.htm

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 12:31:38 PM   
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Hold on so jacking off like 3-4 times a day will kill you muscle growth.........ROFL
Maybe thats why im not growing, freaking assparade.com, 40inhcplus.com, onionbooty.com, assmasterpiece.com
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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 12:36:40 PM   
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Hold on so jacking off like 3-4 times a day will kill you muscle growth.........ROFL
Maybe thats why im not growing, freaking assparade.com, 40inhcplus.com, onionbooty.com, assmasterpiece.com
damnit

Hah! User Posted Image

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 6:10:10 PM   
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A post from another Forum regarding this subject:

"Honest to god, I'm always baffled by you guys who want to manipulate your testosterone levels through abstinence. Do you not like sex? Are you deathly afraid of your own penis? In my opinion manipulating your testosterone through abstinence is like manipulating your weight by holding your pee."

Sums up the whole issue IMO.

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 7:01:13 PM   
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Lynx100...

I disagree!...

There is no correlation... Holding your urine results in bladder problems as the bladder tissues break up!... Abstinence from ejaculating for a week (but no more) has proven to spike up testosterone levels by ~50%! You most probably agree that if you masturbate/have sex 1-4+ times daily your sexual drive will drop compared to masturbating/having sex once or twice a week!... When your sexual drive spikes (from abstinence) your testosterone levels spike!... A higher testosterone level is how men grow and women don’t since they lag behind in high testosterone levels... When you are a child you cannot grow muscle efficiently since you don't have adequate amounts of testosterone no matter how much protein you eat and how much you train...

I believe that abstinence (for a week as the studies show)=higher testosterone levels!... Everyone has their own beliefs!

I bring proof while you show assumptions (that you agree with) by some "post from another forum regarding this subject"!

I think the question should be: would you give up sex/masturbation (for a week) for muscular size gains?!... This is a whole different story!...

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RE: Low Testosterone - 6/22/2006 8:14:46 PM   
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Well to be honest, i dont actually have any strong evidence FOR or AGAINST this argument so im still unconvinced that absitence increases Test levels or that regular sex decreases it enough to effect weight gains.

That study you linked to was not a randomised controlled or placebo controlled, it wasnt blinded and it was done with a relatively small cohort and way too many variables that are unaccounted for. So i wouldnt take any evidence from that study as gospel or evidence for abstinence.

But like i said, i dont have anything to prove it doesnt work either... so..... Im quite neutral on this subject as far as scientific evidence is concerned as i cant argue either way.

PERSONALLY, from GUT feeeling, and personal experience i dont subscribe to the theory. I havent noticed any significant changes in my strength or mass gain relating to my ejaculation schedule.

But sure, if convincing evidence is put before me, ill accept it.

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