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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 09, 2006 7:23 AM ( #31 )
I would be honored!

August 8 Active Rest Day

1-10 (10 =best)
(9) Sleep quality
(-) Workout intensity capacity
(6) Mental Focus
(7) Energy
(6) Mood
(9) Water intake
(9) Adherence to meals

- about 20-30+ minutes of walking in the beautiful outdoors
- Only shift in diet is meal 4

Meal 4:
BCAA 5000 Powder Optimum Nutrition 1.5 Teaspoon  (pre walk)
Creatine 5G (pre walk)
L-Arganine 4g (pre walk)
NOW Lean Grow 1/2 cup (post walk)
Green Beans 4 oz.
Calcium & Magnesium - Natures Way 1 Capsule (post walk)
B-Complex 50 Solaray 1 Capsule (post walk)
Vitamin C 500 Solaray 1 Capsule (post walk)

The end result was an Increase in fiber and a drop in
-8 grams fat
-48 grams carbs
-9 grams protein
-310 calories

August 9 Training Journal
Woke this AM leaner than yesterday. My waist measure even shrunk and I can see more abs.   I started to feel a bit hungry at times right at meal time yesterday.  I was hoping the 3000 calories (2700 on the off day) would start the gains off nicely.

I won't test my composition again until the 12th to determine where to take my calories.  Though I may weigh tomorrow to see if I am gaining or losing weight.  Maybe I need to adjust calories up?

Next weeks training is going to be strength training- for 2 weeks- then I will go into a very specific muscle hypertrophy training for a while, 8-10 weeks.  I will be testing a few things in 4 week increments during that time which I will cover later.

Due to my personal oxidative rate and past training experience - I have not found a mix of nutrients that works as well as 30% fat, 45% Carbs, 25% Protein for me.

I will be trying out a different mix of nutrients for a few weeks (4?)  based on how I feel after the first 2 I may try 2 more.  I won't start that for 4 weeks and I will discuss that more later.

There is no cardio in this routine..though the routine is very aerobic due to the pace..I am breathing as much air in as I can almost all the way through.  On the 7th I felt like I almost blacked out from the squats!  I have not done that in a while!  Thats what I get for doing the squats near the END.

A note about the creatine...after listening to one researcher discuss findings on creatine I will be taking my creatine 1 hour before training.  The researcher said it takes about an hour for the creatine concentration to peak in the blood and the force of blood to the muscles during training, in effect, targets the delivery.

He was also discussing the post workout delivery of amino acids and said that they found a 30 minute window for consumption for the optimal anabolic effect.  I was already aware of this and am very religious about it, but it is nice to hear these things discussed.

1-10 (10 =best)
(9) Sleep quality
(9) Workout intensity capacity
(7) Mental Focus
(8) Energy
(7) Mood
(10) Water intake
(10) Adherence to meals

Creatine 5g 1 (hour before training)
BCAA 7.5g = 1.5 Tsp x2 (immediately pre and post)
L-Arganine 3g 1 Tsp
ALC 3g 1.5g x2
L-Theonine 100 mg (post)

The Workout: 
Done in supersets to shorten the duration. 
10 exercises.  2 sets each (shown).  12-15 reps each.  Heavy but not to failure.  Minimal rest.
warm up
Hack Squat
Hack Squat
Calf Raise
Calf Raise
Incline Bench 
Bent Row
Incline Bench
Bent Row 
Skull Crush 
Upright Row
Skull Crush
Upright Row 
Preacher Curl 
Preacher Curl
Weighted Crunch
SLDL
Weighted Crunch
SLDL 
Stretching & Cool Down
 
Took 45 minutes.  Was fun and awesome.  Looking forward to Friday where I go to failure aiming for 8-10.
 
I was hungry today!  I will weigh myself tomorrow to see if I am losing weight...
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RE: Looking for mass... - Thursday, August 10, 2006 9:11 AM ( #32 )
August 10 Active Rest Day

Weighed in at 190.5...that tells me I am actually losing weight, as I started creatine and so expect weight gain.  Since I am hungry most of the time, except after eating, that makes sense.  My protein, carbs and fats are good right now.  What I think I may do is wait it out til the 12th when i do my composition. I wouldn't mind being 12-13% and 190+ to start.  That would just mean I gained back the muscle I lost from leaning.  Have to get my sleep though

1-10 (10 =best)
(4) Sleep quality
(-) Workout intensity capacity
(7) Mental Focus
(7) Energy
(7) Mood
(10 ) Water intake
( 8) Adherence to meals 

- Only shift in diet is meal 4 as per 8/4/08
And a slice of home made pizza..YUMMMMMM..thanks mom

August 11
Workout should be...fast
Done in supersets to shorten the duration. 
10 exercises 2x each as listed.  To failure at 10 reps each. Minimal rest.
warm up

Squat
Squat
Calf Press
Calf Press
Bench
Row
Bench
Row
Tri Press
Military
Tri Press
Military
Bi Curl
Leg Curl
Bi Curl
Leg Curl
Weighted Crunch
Weighted Crunch

Stretching & Cool Down

Also going for a hike in the Appalachian Mountains in this fine weather in the AM...BCAA pre and post the hike....break in the middle to eat a meal and watch the clouds roll on through.
 
Hike took 80 minutes of walking time, 40+40.  Easy and low intensity.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, August 12, 2006 8:02 AM ( #33 )
Starting to break out like a teen again..that’s mostly good as it relates to higher anabolic  hormone levels.
 
The week off followed by This week set me up to be able to progress my training gradually and not have to do tons of intensity and volume to get any results.
 
This first week of warm-up work out was very nice..I feel I leaned up a bit and am looking more defined and muscled and my abs went down to 35"
 
I am sure when I increase the food my gut will increase from the food./fiber volume being digested.
 
Already I have had a  nice shift.  Looking forward to 200 pounds! Then 205 - 210 - 215 -220 - 225
 
Next comes a short 2-weeks of strength training.  This requires more calories and protein!
 
August 11 
 
1-10 (10 =best)
(9) Sleep quality
(9) Workout intensity capacity
(7) Mental Focus
(8) Energy
(8) Mood
(10 ) Water intake
(10) Adherence to meals 
 
Training
Done in supersets to shorten the duration. 
10 exercises 2x each as listed.  To failure at 10 reps each. Minimal rest.
warm up

Squat
Squat
Calf Press
Calf Press
Bench
Row
Bench
Row
Tri Press
Military
Tri Press
Military
Bi Curl
Leg Curl
Bi Curl
Leg Curl
Weighted Crunch
Weighted Crunch

Stretching & Cool Down
 
Took 35 minutes.
I actually was VERY strong and had a hard time reaching failure on some lifts even though I had almost no rests and raised the weights ...Chest, Legs, Arms!

Also went for a hike in the Appalachian Mountains in this fine weather in the AM...BCAA pre and post the hike....break in the middle to eat a meal and watch the clouds roll on through.
Hike took 80 minutes of walking time, 40+40.  Easy and low intensity.
 
Also My stats!
August 7 2006
 
Bodyweight     190
Bodyfat %       14.5%
Lean Mass      162            
Body Fat          28              
Neck               17       
Chest              45          
Waist              35.5            
Hip                  39.5       
Bicep (no flex)  15.25        
Thigh              24.5
Calf                16       
Forearm           12
 
August 12 2006 
 (AM Cold)
Bodyweight     191
Bodyfat %       14.5%
Lean Mass      163            
Body Fat          28              
Neck               17       
Chest              45.5          
Waist              35             
Hip                  39.5       
Bicep (no flex)  15.5        
Thigh              25
Calf                16       
Forearm           12 

coming up...Stength training and a new diet starting Monday.
Now 2 days active rest and a free eating day...thats the cheat day...which I rarely ever use.
 
I like the way I feel on the good food!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Sunday, August 13, 2006 8:24 AM ( #34 )
I am enjoying the days off but itching to lift again.  I feel good and look good and want to make that even better.  I want to get back to 166 pounds of lean mass and then top 170...then 175...

Though I look modelish and people comment on how "fit" I am now...I want more muscle size...so there is no doubt about my appetite for muscle.

Today I am scheduled to take some photos...we will see if they come out any good!
Being pale as white flour makes photos hard...all detail is washed away.  I should some paint on tan and paint mysef for the next photos.

I am ghostly..you can see through my skin in a spectral way.  I go over well in gothic circles...good thing I love to dance to that music.

"You are so fit and...pale."  Thats what someone just said to me.  he he he

I do get out every day or so for 45 minutes in the sun...but in actuality I have low pigment.  I am not anything like an albino.  I have a nice healthy flush to me.  I grew up and lived at the beach in Santa Monica, California and Venice, California...I spent more than a few years sailing the high seas...I trained for Desert Storm and lived in the dessert for what seemed an eternity...all to no avail...the slight color I pick up fades in a short time.

Ahh well.

Later I will finish my meal plan and put that in and I will pop in a copy of the workout for tomorrow.

Next 2 weeks is Basic Strength and Mass Training. 
Calories are going up 300 to 3300, still in the 45 carb, 25 pro, 30 fat ratio...i will switch that September 10 to another ratio to test it - I will talk more about that soon.

I will watch the response to food closely and raise the cals if I need to!

I will do 2 weeks of strength and then the first 2 weeks of hypertrophy training with just my standard ratio (45 carb, 25 pro, 30 fat), then the next 2 weeks of hypertrophy training with another ratio to compare, after that I may stick with it or go back...if I go back I will go a week back on my standard ratios and the next week I may add some supplements...for a month to test them...(discuss that later)

August 13-26 - Strength and mass training
August 27 - September 9 -  Hypertrophy Training (baseline for growth)
September 10 - September 23 - Hypertrophy Training with Experimental diet
September 24 - September 30 - Hypertrophy Training on basic diet to establish baseline again or start 4 week supplement cycle and remain on Experimental diet

This will run until Octover 21 or October 28...after that I may do 2 weeks of muscle shaping and leaning and take a week off.


September 30  - Atlanta GA Team Old Navy rocks the NGA

My hope is to have 6-10 more pounds of muscle by the time I get to Atlant GA to support Old Navy!

Strength and mass Training
The objective is to train the major muscles with compound movments in intense sessions...hitting the fast twitch fibers hard.

The rests will be a bit longer to allow for max strength between the two heavy sets, with a total goal workout time of 40 minutes. 
The whole body will be trained 3x a week with the following basic scheme
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight)

Every workout will vary.

Exercises...
Quads-Squat
Chest-Press (Incline / Flat / Lower)
Back-Row (Bent / Cable / High)
Bi-Curl (Standard / Preacher / Hammer)
Tri-Dip/Extension (Crushers / Overhead / Pressdown  Dip)
Shoulder - Press (Military)
Calf - Raises (standing / seated style)
Deadlift (yea)
Abs (weighted crunch, weighted reverse crunch, weighted leg raise)

Post workout will include glutamine for stress recovery, L-theanine to minimize stress, and the standard PWO formula:
(40G) 0.2 g/lb fast assimilated carbs contain a 1:1 glucose(dextrose):fructose mixture
(20G) 0.1 g/lb protein from whey with 7g BCAA added

 
Followed with a meal in about 1 hour
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RE: Looking for mass... - Sunday, August 13, 2006 11:26 AM ( #35 )
As I was needing to go back and look at what food combinations were most successful for me in my mass gaining , I had to go back and compare the combination of training and diet on the results.

I thought it might be interesting to to share the last years changes in body composition/Lean Mass/Fat/weight straight from my electronic journal.

I also have the exact diets I was eating and the exact training I was doing in each of these periods.

Date         8/13/05        9/13/05      9/24/05        10/7/05          10/17/05       10/25/05
Calories    1950              2100          2200            2200             2500               2500
Weight     175              167             165              165               168                169
BF%         20.0%          18.0%         16.9%          16.5%          14.8%            15.6%
Lean        140               137             137              138             143                143
Fat           35                30              28                27               25                  26

11/2/05      11/10/05      11/18/05     11/24/05      11/29/05     12/6/05       12/17/05
2500           2700            2700           2700            3000           3500           3500
171           172               172             175             175              175              176
14.6%       15.5%           14.6%         15.9%         15.9%         16.9%          15.3%
146           145               146.9          147.2          147.2          145.4           149.1
25             27                 25.1           27.8             27.8           29.6            26.9

1/24/06   2/1/06   2/6/06   2/11/06  2/20/06   2/25/06   3/4/06    3/11/06    3/17/06  3/24/06
2700       2700     3000      3000      3150        3150      3150       3150        3300      3300
175         175        176        180       180         181       183         184          185.5      186.5
15.7%   14.6%     15.0%  14.8%     14.9%     14.9%    14.6%      14.9%       15.1%    14.8%
147.5     148.6     149.5    153.4      153.2      154.0     156.3      156.6        157.5     158.8
27.5       25.4       26.5      26.6        26.8        27.0       26.7        27.4           28.0      27.7

4/5/06    4/15/06   4/23/06   5/2/06    5/16/06  5/25/03   7/4/06  7/29/06  8/7/06   8/12/06
3300      2700       2700        2700      3000      3150       2529    2529      3000     3300
184.5    188.5      189.5      187.5       188.5     189         194.5    192        190      191
15.8%   15.8%    16.0%     15.2%       15.6%   15.4%     17.1%  16.1%    14.5%   14.5%
155.3    158.7     159.2       158.9       159.2    160.0      161.2    161.0     162.4    163.4
29.2      29.8       30.3         28.6        29.3      29.0         33.3     31.0       27.6       27.6


8/22/06     8/29/06     9/5/06    9/12/06    9/19/06
3300         3300         3300      3300         3300
193.5       194.5         196.5     198.5        200.5
15.1%       15.2%       15.4%     15.0%      15.4%
164.3        165.0        166.2      168.8       169.7
29.2          29.5          30.3       29.7         30.8

It is interesting to note the two largest gains in mass I had and why.
#1
10/7/05 ---> 10/17/05 A 5 pound gain in mass...what happened?
From 9/29-10/17 my calories were around 2200-2300 and I did not raise them. 27% fat/ 42% Carbs / 31% Pro
BUT on 10/7 I was doing 1-set per bodypart in a 20 minute workout with only 6 exercises 2 or sometimes 3 times a week. The week of 10/10 I got in 3 sessions and session #3 I changed to doing 2 sets per bodypart and took 40 minutes!!

 

#2
2/6/06 - 2/11/06 3.9 pounds of Lean Mass gained in 5 days

On 2/6 I increased my calories from 2700 to 3000 both with a 45 carb, 25 pro, 30 fat ratio

Prior to 2/3 i was training the whole body each training day. 
However 1/31 it took nearly an hour because I switched to 2 pre-exhaust sets before 1 compound movement per muscle.
So 2/4 I went to a 2-day split so the workout only took 30 minutes each of 2 consecutive days!
The switch to more itense, shorter duration 2/day workout + calories stimulated the growth.

In each case...the drastic change in training led to the jump in muscle...I wonder if all the 3 lb muscle gains I had were where I switched my routine?

I know from published research that changing the routine weekly leads to greater muscle mass gains over changeing every 4 weeks...Hmmmmm..interesting.

As an aside...12/17 was a 3.7 pound gain...just before that I knew I was going on a trip so I did a double split to get my last 2 workouts in....that is doing the AM and PM workout thing..so upper AM  Lower PM.

I'll think about this: week 1 of strength I will do 3 days of full body..and week 2 I will do a 2/day split?
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RE: Looking for mass... - Sunday, August 13, 2006 1:57 PM ( #36 )
My Meal plan starting 8/14/2006
 
Calories: 3303 kCal
Fat: 100 grams (27%)
Carbohydrates: 389 grams (47%)
Protein: 220 grams (26%)
 
Meal 1:
Nonfat Milk 1 cup(s)
CEREAL, RTE, PUFFED RICE: ALL NATURAL, TGTBT 2.5 cup(s)
Designer Whey 1  Scoop
Bananas, raw 2 oz
shredded Coconut 1 Tablespoon
Nuts, walnuts, english 1/2 oz (14 halves)
Raisins, seedless 15 raisins
Fish oil, menhaden 1 tsp(s)
Joint Formula 2 capsule
Multivitamin 1 Tablet

Meal 2:
Snacks, rice cakes, brown rice, plain 6 cake
Salad dressing, mayonnaise, soybean and safflower oil,with salt2 tsp(s)
TURKEY, YOUNG TOM, BREAST, ROASTED 4 oz
Nuts, almond butter, plain, with salt added 1 tbsp(s)
POLANER ALL-FRUIT Strawberry Spread 1 tbsp(s)
Peppers, sweet, red, raw 3/4 cup(s), chopped

Meal 3:
Salad dressing, mayonnaise, soybean and safflower oil,with salt 1 tsp(s)
Sweetpotato, cooked, boiled, without skin, without salt 5 oz
Snacks, rice cakes, brown rice, plain 4 cake
Beans, snap, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 4 oz
Beef, ground, 85% lean meat / 15% fat cooked (yield from 6.4 oz raw meat )
Vitamin C 500 Solaray 1 Capsule
Calcium & Magnesium - Natures Way 1 Capsule
B-Complex 50 Solaray 1 Capsule

Meal 4:
BCAA 5000 Powder Optimum Nutrition 3 Teaspoon (1/2 pre and 1/2 post)
NOW Pro-Gainer 1 SCOOP
Super Heavyweight Gainer Champion Nutrition 1 scoop
Banana, Raw 2 ounces
B-Complex 50 Solaray 1 Capsule
Vitamin C 500 Solaray 1 Capsule
Calcium & Magnesium - Natures Way 1 Capsule

Meal 5:
Kale, raw 1 cup(s), chopped
Fish oil, menhaden 1 tsp(s)
Rice Pasta, Organic Brown Tinyada 2 1/2 dry oz
Tomato products, canned, sauce, with tomato tidbits 0.3 cup(s)
CHICKEN, BROILER, LEG+BACK, MEAT, , ROASTED 4 oz
Calcium & Magnesium - Natures Way 1 Capsule
Joint Formula 2 capsule

Meal 6:
Nonfat Milk 1 cup(s)
shredded Coconut 2/3 Tablespoon
Celery, raw 1 cup(s), diced
Designer Whey 1 Scoop
CEREAL, Organic PUFFED RICE: ALL NATURAL 1 1/2 cup(s)
Flax Seed Oil 1 Teaspoon

 
On off days there is no Pre and post workout BCAA, and Meal 4 is replace with this:

Finfish, salmon, Scottish Organic, cooked, dry heat 4 oz
Sweetpotato, cooked, boiled, without skin, without salt 5 oz
Beans, snap, green, cooked, boiled, drained, without salt 4 oz
Calcium & Magnesium - Natures Way 1 Capsule
B-Complex 50 Solaray 1 Capsule
Vitamin C 500 Solaray 1 Capsule
 
Off Days look like this:
Calories: 3173 kCal
Fat: 100 grams (28%)
Carbohydrates: 362 grams (45.2%)
Protein: 215 grams (26.8%)

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RE: Looking for mass... - Monday, August 14, 2006 9:16 PM ( #37 )
8/12/06 and 8/13/06 Rest and planning days
Diet was right on both days.
 
8/14/2006
1-10 (10 =best)
(9) Sleep quality
(9) Workout intensity capacity
(8) Mental Focus
(8) Energy
(8) Mood
(10 ) Water intake
(10) Adherence to meals 

 
Diet
Started the 3300 calorie diet.  Almost forgot to switch..I just prepare my meals on auto pillot!  I feel perhaps a tiny bit hungry...which I expect after tearing trough a workout like that.
 
I just want to point out what I have within 30 minutes of the end of my workout
Calories 523
Fat 10 (MCTs)
Carbs 77
Protein 32
 
For Carbs it includes Maltodextrin and fructose plus the banana.
For protein it includes Egg white, whey concentrate, whey hydrosilate and whey isolate.
 
Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) 

Exercises...
Squat
Deadlift
Standing Calf Raises 
Chest Press  Flat 
Bent Row 
Bi-Curl
Tri-Pressdown
Military Press
Abs Ball crunches
 
Took about an hour.
I went for minimal rest as I recover so quickly.
For squat it was like I could not go heavy enough!  So I finished with Failure at 9-10 reps.
The first half was yummy and brutal..squat - Deadlift - calf Press
Chest and back were Yummy..I love heavy bent rows.
The rest was like sweet and gone too fast.
I was surprised it took an hour.  I will try to go faster on Wednesday.
Should have stretched better! 
 
One thing that was very noteable was the incredible pump I had.
I still feel and look more full, hours later!
 
It was like a preview of things to come...
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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:36 AM ( #38 )
8/15/06
Was a rest day
 
I weighed in..at 193
 
I look larger, lean, and full
 
I feel a bit stuffed from the increase in calories but that is good.
 
1-10 (10 =best)
(9) Sleep quality
(-) Workout intensity capacity
(7) Mental Focus
(8) Energy
(8) Mood
(10) Water intake
(10) Adherence to meals 

8/14/2006
1-10 (10 =best)
(8) Sleep quality
( ) Workout intensity capacity
(8) Mental Focus
(8) Energy
(8) Mood
(  ) Water intake
(  ) Adherence to meals 

Training...later

I am reflecting on the need to train to cause hypertrophy in all muscle fiber types.  If you went on a power/strength training phase (like Max-OT) that went for too long you would lose the gains you had from hypertrophy or endurance training...so it is important to hybridize training to maintain all the different fibers at max.
 
Also, since I have read that the week-long rest allows for more fiber regeneration..this would also be a critical component.  As our muscle size increases are faster than the body's fiber regeneration/replenishment.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 10:46 AM ( #39 )
I've also been considering changing my rep range and slowing down the movement to hit different fibers...Right now I'm on 6 reps (my favourite), I guess one of these coming weeks I'll jump to 12 reps and slow everything way down.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:03 PM ( #40 )
Well...don't think the higher REPS lower weights HAVE to be only done slow....

If you do each bodypart 1x per week...you could hybridize for 2 weeks and see what happened.

What you can do is do a second higher rep 10-15 or 25-40 low volume (3 sets per bodypart) workout 4 days after the first workout. 

The recovery time for this second workout is only 2-3 days. 

So: Monday Back and Friday hi-rep Back...

Then you will start to bring more hypertrophy to the Type IIa and Type IIb fibers (10-15)  and Type I (25-40)

And we now know that changing the routine up weekly leads to more hypertrophy than say every 4 weeks.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 4:56 PM ( #41 )

ORIGINAL: danmirage

Well...don't think the higher weights HAVE to be only done slow....


You meant to say higher reps I'm assuming? I know they don't have to be done slow, but right now I'm doing my sets fast with low reps, so the exact opposite would be slow high reps. I figured I'd kill more birds with my stone this way


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If you do each bodypart 1x per week...you could hybridize for 2 weeks and see what happened.

What you can do is do a second higher rep 10-15 or 25-40 low volume (3 sets per bodypart) workout 4 days after the first workout. 

The recovery time for this second workout is only 2-3 days. 

So: Monday Back and Friday hi-rep Back...

Then you will start to bring more hypertrophy to the Type IIa and Type IIb fibers (10-15)  and Type I (25-40)

This sounds like a good idea, thanks!


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And we now know that changing the routine up weekly leads to more hypertrophy than say every 4 weeks.

This is true but my issue with changing the routine every week is that it's hard to ensure you're progressing with your weights. For example, how do I know I'm going to increase chest strength if I'm doing low reps one week, high reps another week, hybridization, etc.  That's why I prefer a more predictable routine, so that I can look at last week and say okay I benched 170 last week, lets go for 175 today.

Anyways, thanks for the hybrization tip, and I'll quit hijacking your journal now
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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 16, 2006 8:56 PM ( #42 )

You meant to say higher reps I'm assuming?

  OOoops.  Yes I did!
 

For example, how do I know I'm going to increase chest strength if I'm doing low reps one week, high reps another week, hybridization, etc.  That's why I prefer a more predictable routine, so that I can look at last week and say okay I benched 170 last week, lets go for 175 today.

 
Is your primary focus strength?  I think it must be!  I was referring to a muscle hypertrophy goal.
 

 

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And we now know that changing the routine up weekly leads to more hypertrophy than say every 4 weeks.


This is true but my issue with changing the routine every week is that it's hard to ensure you're progressing with your weights.

The variance can be something slight..you don't have to change the whole routine...it can be as simple as ending with a lighter set of 40 or heavier sets of 1 rep 4x...or doing the movements slower...or taking shorter rests..or longer ones and going heavier...you understand.
 
However..your strength will also shift in response...any time you challenge the body in a way it is unaccustomed to...stength gain is not linear either..it is more effective to zig-zag a bit.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Thursday, August 17, 2006 7:09 PM ( #43 )
Well Darn..due to a series of adventures and misadventures...I missed the 8/16 workout.
 
The diet has been right on.
 
Had an interview with Daniel Gastelu for a radio/podcast that was fun, though I was panting when we started from running to get settled on time.
 
We may do a regular series answering questions and concerns for strength and bodybuilding athletes...
 
So next training is the 18th!
 
I may do 18/20/22/24/26...so that I still have 6 sessions in the 2 week period.
 
Just have to watch the stress and recovery.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Friday, August 18, 2006 10:18 PM ( #44 )
8/18/2006
1-10 (10 =best)
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(8) Energy
(8) Mood
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(7) Adherence to meals 

Diet 
covered in a friend's store for 10 hours and so I used 2 MRPs during "work" as well as my normal meal.
 
Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) 

Exercises...
Squat (closer to 4-6 failure at 305...but still need to go heavier)
Deadlift (need to go heavier)
Standing Calf Raises  - great
Chest Press  Incline - was not paying attention to the weight...was very in the muscle
Cable Row  - great...rrrr I think...brutal
Upright Row - oooch great
Preacher Curl - Yea great
Over head Tri-Press - i was too strong...need more weight next time
 
Took under an hour!

Next training is 8/20/06
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RE: Looking for mass... - Sunday, August 20, 2006 10:33 PM ( #45 )
Weight 193.5
 
8/19/2006
Rest day - had to clean a mold infestation..that is never good.
 
1-10 (10 =best)
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8/20/2006
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Spot on.
 
Felt really bloated before the workout, but after I felt great again!
 
Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) 

Exercises...
Squat - 305
Deadlift  - 295
Standing Calf Raises - 225
Wide grip pulldown - 175 (limited by bodyweight)
Chest Press  Decline - 175 (limited by bodyweight)
Militart Press - 70
Hammer Curl - 70
Skull Crushers - 90
Weighted Crunches - 80

Took under an hour!

Next training is 8/22/06
 
8/21 or 8/22 I will do stats again
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RE: Looking for mass... - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:18 AM ( #46 )
August 12 2006 
 (AM Cold)
Bodyweight     191
Bodyfat %       14.5%
Lean Mass      163            
Body Fat          28              
Neck               17       
Chest              45.5          
Waist              35             
Hip                  39.5       
Bicep (no flex)  15.5        
Thigh              25 
Calf                16       
Forearm           12 


August 22 2006 
 (AM Cold)
Bodyweight     193.5 
Bodyfat %       14.8%
Lean Mass      165
Body Fat          28.5              
Neck               17       
Chest              45.5          
Waist              34.75             
Hip                  39.5       
Bicep (no flex)  15.375        
Thigh              24.5 
Calf                16       
Forearm           12.125 

Contrary to the caliper calculation...all the actual caliper measures went down except 2 of them.  Those two weigh heavy in calculating the BF%.

I believe I dropped a little fat and I am not doing any oxidative muscle fiber training so that could account for a reduction in total muscle size...muscle is more dense by weight and area than fat...but I will incorporate 1 set of oxidative muscle fiber type training for each muscle this workout to work to increase the muscle size of that fraction again.

Some calculators put me at 9-11.5% but I think that is skewed by my genetic lean-ness and thin skin in the arms.

Anyway..tracking BF is about helping me to tweak diet and training, not about anything else.

Bodybuilding is about appearance not measurements. 
I am looking leaner and a tiny bit more full. 
Still a ways to go until the thigh and chest are stage ready and the bodyfat is low enough to show it all off.  NOT TO MENTION..the need for a dark tan!

Next couple of days I should have more time and be able to take photos...

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(8) Energy
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Diet  
Had a DS Sustain Bar while returning from taking mom to airport. 


Exercises...

I moved the workout to August 23 so I would have August 24 off
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RE: Looking for mass... - Tuesday, August 22, 2006 9:09 PM ( #47 )
Nice journal nice 2lbs increase in LBM while dropping bf = x100000000


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RE: Looking for mass... - Wednesday, August 23, 2006 1:30 PM ( #48 )
i can deff see that loging measurments have helped you alot in keeping tack of training and diet, after i'm done with my program i'm deff gona borrow from your workout, i'll hopefully get to 150-165 lbs and 8% bf in a year
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RE: Looking for mass... - Thursday, August 24, 2006 10:02 AM ( #49 )
August 23 2006 
1-10 (10 =best)
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(8) Energy
(8) Mood
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Diet  
Perfect
 
Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) 

SET 6 25 reps with initial weight or a slight drop

Exercises (max weight used approx)
Squat - 315
Deadlift  - 295
Standing Calf Raises - 225
Chest Press - 185 (limited by bodyweight)
Bent Row - 195 (limited by bodyweight)
Military Press - 70
Curl - 90 
Close Grip Pushdown - 80

OK, that set of 25 at the end of each one was fun but a killer.

Took 75 minutes!
 
August 24 I will do abs.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Friday, August 25, 2006 9:43 PM ( #50 )
August 24 was my birthday..so...
 
I went to a session of the Stowe Music Festival. There was a visiting Flute player, Horacio Franco.  The Flute he plays is the Recorder.   He was quite extraordinary.  Myself, having played with Irish Whistle players for years, some of them very skilled, I have come to appreciate the fingerwork and breath control.  This man played selections from Bach, Telemann and others.  Quite remarkable!
 
Then I took myself for sushi... August 25 2006I went to another session of the Stowe Music Festival..which is right in the middle of my workout time..so I did half... 1-10 (10 =best)
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Perfect
 
Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) Exercises (max weight used approx) Chest Press Incline - 155 (limited by bodyweight) 
Cable Row - 195 (limited by bodyweight)
Upright Row- 60
Preacher Curl - 60 
Overhead Tri Press- 90
Took 30 minutes I will do Lower Body and Abs 8/25/06
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, August 26, 2006 5:03 AM ( #51 )
Happy Birthday!!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:38 AM ( #52 )
Thanks Syed!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, August 26, 2006 8:42 AM ( #53 )
it's the least i can do for you helping me so much
 
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RE: Looking for mass... - Sunday, August 27, 2006 7:43 PM ( #54 )
8/27/2006

Time to transition to a hypertrophy specific training...

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Diet   
Added to the PWO..about 250 extra calories... 
Also had carbs (5 grapes) before I trained...which was weird because I ended up waaay tooo strong for my own good.

Training
Set 1 warm up set with a weight that would allow 20....for 10 reps
Set 2 warm up set with a weight that would allow 12...for 8 reps
Set 3 same as set #2 but 6 reps
Set 4 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF
Set 5 Select a weight that would allow 4-6 reps to MMF (if #4 was over 6 reps...go up in weight) 

Exercises (max weight used approx)
Squat - 325
Deadlift  - 315
Standing Calf Raises - 225
Weigted Crunches
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RE: Looking for mass... - Tuesday, August 29, 2006 9:16 AM ( #55 )
August 22 2006 
 (AM Cold)
Bodyweight     193.5  
Bodyfat %       14.8%
Lean Mass      165 
Body Fat          28.5              
Neck               17       
Chest              45.5          
Waist              34.75             
Hip                  39.5       
Bicep (no flex)  15.375        
Thigh              24.5 
Calf                16       
Forearm           12.125  

August 29 2006 
 (Cold)
Bodyweight     194.5 
Bodyfat %       14.8%
Lean Mass      165.6
Body Fat          28.9              
Neck               16.75       
Chest              45.5          
Waist              35             
Hip                  40       
Bicep (no flex)  15.75        
Thigh              25 
Calf                16.125      
Forearm           12.25 

Only got 2 times through the full-body with the strength workouts since the 22nd.
 
Upcoming workout..this week - Goal is 3x through:
Day 1
Bench press 3 sets 6 reps  
Incline press 2 sets 10 reps   
Low Bench press 1 set 20 reps   
 
Skull Crusher 3 sets 6 reps  
Overhead triceps press 2 sets 10 reps   
Triceps pushdown 1 set 20 reps   
 
Lying Leg Curl  3 sets 6 reps
Standing Leg Curl  2 sets 10 reps   
Stiff Leg Dead lift 1 set 20 reps
 
Standing calf raises 3 sets 6 reps  
Seated calf raises 2 sets 10 reps   
Donkey calf raises 1 set 20 reps   
  
Day 2
Squat 3 sets 6 reps  
Squat  2 sets 10 reps    
Leg Extension 1 set 20 reps  
 
Military Press  3 sets 6 reps  
Upright rows  2 sets 10 reps   
Side to front raise 1 set 20 reps   
 
Cable rows  3 sets 6 reps  
Lat pull down 2 sets 10 reps   
Bent Row 1 set 20 reps   
 
Curls 3 sets 6 reps  
Alternating curls 2 sets  10 reps   
Hammer curls 1 set 20 reps 
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RE: Looking for mass... - Tuesday, August 29, 2006 11:34 PM ( #56 )
8/29/2006

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I will go a few days and see if I am still gaining weight...since I only added .6 pounds muscle but gained a pound that argues for still being in about a 3400 calorie weekly surplus...

 
Had to be out on business so I had 2 meal replacement bars to cover for a meal...and hour later I had more protein and 1/2 a mango and 30 minutes later worked out...
 
Exercise
Not going past failure but to a point just short of near positive failure
 
Warm up!
Bench press 3 sets 6 reps  
Incline press 2 sets 10 reps    
Decline Bench press 1 set 20 reps   
 
Skull Crusher 3 sets 6 reps  
Overhead triceps press 2 sets 10 reps   
Triceps pushdown 1 set 20 reps    
 
Standing Leg Curl 3 sets 6 reps 
Lying Leg Curl 2 sets 10 reps   
Stiff Leg Dead lift 1 set 20 reps
 
Standing calf raises 3 sets 6 reps  
Seated calf raises 2 sets 10 reps   
Donkey calf raises 1 set 20 reps  
 
2 sets ball crunches 20 reps each 

Took about 45 minutes and had a realy nice feeling after!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Thursday, August 31, 2006 8:16 PM ( #57 )
8/31/2006

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(9) Energy
(8) Mood
(10) Water intake
(9) Adherence to meals 

Diet   
Some foods not available so I improvised.

Exercise
Not going past failure but to a point just short of near positive failure

Day 2
Squat 3 sets 6 reps  
Squat  2 sets 10 reps    
Squat 1 set 20 reps  
 
Military Press  3 sets 6 reps  
Military Press  2 sets 10 reps   
Military Press 1 set 20 reps   
 
Cable rows  3 sets 6 reps  
Cable rows 2 sets 10 reps   
Cable rows 1 set 20 reps   
 
Curls 3 sets 6 reps  
Curls  2 sets  10 reps   
Curls 1 set 20 reps 
 
Took 40 minutes - feels great.
 
Next time I will switch the movements around in each group.
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RE: Looking for mass... - Friday, September 01, 2006 7:42 AM ( #58 )

My god man youre packing on weight like its as easy as eating pie...

Eating pie would be harder...
 

And your squats and deads are pretty impressive too, though for someone your height and weight id have thought a good bit more weight would be in order lol.

I don't know if you saw a few posts back...but the equipment I use is continuous tension resistance bands as apposed to free weights.  I use the bands because I am "in the wild" as it were and need something to work out with beyond bodyweight..I used bodyweight for a few months a year a go and made good gains..but I kinda milked it for all it was worth.
 
One limitation to bands is that some movements are limited by you ability to counter-lever the bands...imagine doing a standing cable bench press with no back support..at a certain weight it just tips you over.  The plus is you don't need a spotter.
 
With free weights I could hit heavier weight.  With the bands...the whole experience is different.
 
My gym is in California and I am in Vermont in a shack in the woods. 
 
But remember, gaining muscle is not about lifting the heaviest weighhts!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:05 AM ( #59 )
9/1/2006

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(8) Mental Focus
(9) Energy
(8) Mood
(10) Water intake
(9) Adherence to meals 

Diet   
Ate all my normal food but some things were not cooked at the right times so I re-arranged..no banana post wo but the PWO shake was bigger

Exercise
Not going past failure but to a point just short of near positive failure

Warm up!
Decline Bench press 3 sets 6 reps  
Bench press 2 sets 10 reps    
Incline Bench press 1 set 20 reps    
 
Overhead triceps press 3 sets 6 reps  
Triceps pushdown 2 sets 10 reps   
Skull Crusher 1 set 20 reps    
 
Standing Leg Curl 3 sets 6 reps 
Lying Leg Curl 2 sets 10 reps   
Stiff Leg Dead lift 1 set 20 reps
 
Standing calf raises 3 sets 6 reps  
Standing calf raises 2 sets 10 reps   
Standing calf raises 1 set 20 reps  


Took about 45 minutes and had a realy nice BIG feeling after!
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RE: Looking for mass... - Saturday, September 02, 2006 8:35 AM ( #60 )
I have not seen the gym in over a year.
 
Heck I was getting gains in the desert using water cans and stakes during Desert Eagle (the lead-up to Desert Storm.)  6 MRE meals a day
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