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Look at my 5 day Split - Saturday, May 24, 2008 10:43 PM ( #1 )
Sunday (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training
 
Monday ( Chest + Triceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Incline Benchpress
-         Decline Benchpress or Dips
-         Flat benchpress
-         Machine Flies
-         Skullcrushers
-         Tri kickback
-         Push downs
 
Tuesday (Backs and Biceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Lat Pull downs
-         Deadlift
-         Bent over BB
-         BB upright Row
-         DB Shrugs
-         Seated Cable Row
-         Close Grip BB Curls
-         Close Grip Pull downs
-         Hammer Curls
 
Wed (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training
 
Thursday (Legs and Abs 3x12,10,8)
-         Squats
-         Leg Extensions
-         Lying Leg Curls
-         Standing Calf Raises
-         Crunches
-         Incline Leg Raises
-         Vertical Leg Raises
 
Friday (Shoulders 3x12, 10, 8)
-         Arnolds
-         Machine Rear Deltoid Fly
-         Dumbell Front flies
-         Dumbell Lateral Flies



Is that too many exercises per any one day?  Please give me suggestions on improvements, additions, or any other modifications.
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Wednesday, May 28, 2008 6:23 PM ( #2 )
looks good to me buddy.
looks pretty close to my routine except for your bicep day.
So all in all it looks good.

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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Thursday, May 29, 2008 6:19 AM ( #3 )
how experienced are you at lifting or how long have you been seriously lifting?
No the leg press is not the same as doing squats.
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:09 PM ( #4 )
Chest
you could probably drop flies
 
Tris
pushdowns and kickbacks are nearly the same exercise cause they hit the tricep from the same angle.  Drop one of them
 
Back
upright rows are for your shoulders although they do work the traps.  drop either the close grip pull downs or the pull ups.  work your traps on a day with not much going on like shoulder day.  9 exercises in one day is a bit much dropping the previous mentioned 3 would be a good idea. 
 
Bis
looks ok
 
Legs
drop the leg curls and add stiff leg deadlift.  drop the extensions and add lunges. 
 
Shoulders
drop the front raises since you are doing arnolds which hit the front delt pretty hard.  add your shrugs here.  although arnolds are great, overhead bb presses and dumbell presses will add more mass to your shoulders, add one.   
 
 
 
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:21 PM ( #5 )
i would suggest you do flatbench first,  then decline/incline etc.

also.. instead of machine flies, if you MUST do them... why not with free-weights?



my last suggestion is to swap out lat pulldowns for pullups.

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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 2:33 PM ( #6 )

ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

i would suggest you do flatbench first,  then decline/incline etc.

no incline first is fine considering the upper chest is the hardest to build. 
 
you should never have one exercise be first forever.  switching between incline and flat first will help when hitting a wall.
 
i have done declines first but not to often since my lower chest builds up to quick. 
 
but with all that said, if this is your first time training, then yes i would suggest starting off with flat first for a while.  
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Tuesday, June 03, 2008 8:42 PM ( #7 )

ORIGINAL: xmax126


ORIGINAL: TheSilverFox

i would suggest you do flatbench first,  then decline/incline etc.

no incline first is fine considering the upper chest is the hardest to build. 

you should never have one exercise be first forever.  switching between incline and flat first will help when hitting a wall.

i have done declines first but not to often since my lower chest builds up to quick. 

but with all that said, if this is your first time training, then yes i would suggest starting off with flat first for a while.  

 
when i first started, upper chest was easy for me to build.
 
it was the lower chest that gave me the most trouble
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:39 PM ( #8 )
dmobley, I'm 24 right now and i started weight lifting sophomore year of high school, about 3 months before i turned 16.  So i like to say that I'm fairly experienced in weight lifting.

as far as seriously lifting.  That one year in high school when I had weight lifting class.  Then after that it was on and off.
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:48 PM ( #9 )
thanks xmax and silverfox.  Haven't been able to work out for several weeks now but plan on hitting the gym tomorrow
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Sunday, June 22, 2008 11:54 PM ( #10 )
So with your suggestions, i've modified my 5 day split.  Any other corrections i need to make?
Sunday (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training
 
Monday ( Chest + Triceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Incline Benchpress
-         Flat benchpress
-         Decline Benchpress or Dips
-         Skullcrushers
-         Tri push downs (or kickbacks)
 
Tuesday (Backs and Biceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Lat Pull downs (or pull ups)
-         Deadlift
-         Bent over BB
-         Seated Cable Row
-         Close Grip BB Curls
-         Hammer Curls
 
Wed (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training
 
Thursday (Legs and Abs 3x12,10,8)
-         Squats
-         Stiff left dead lift
-         Lunges
-         Standing Calf Raises
-         Crunches
-         Incline Leg Raises
-         Vertical Leg Raises
 
Friday (Shoulders 3x12, 10, 8)
-         Arnolds
-         Machine Rear Deltoid Fly
-         Dumbell Lateral Flies
-         BB upright Row (this hits traps and a bit of the shoulders)
-         DB Shrugs
-         Overhead BB press or Dumbell press

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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Monday, June 23, 2008 2:10 PM ( #11 )
        Deadlift should be first on back day. On Monday rotate the order of flat decline and incline weekly and use dumbbells for one or two each week. You want pullups not latdowns or pullups... just pullups. I personally like to do pullups last but they are fine right after dadlift.
       After squats and deadlifts lungesmight be too much but once again thats a personal thing. and you don't need to do 3 ab exercises just 2 will be fine.
       Replace the machine rear delts, and use dumbbells. and change the order for shoulder day to this, and you don't need to do 2 presses on shoulder day.
-Arnolds(i prefer military press)
-upright rows
-shrugs(switch from bb to dumbbells once in a while)
-lateral flies
-bent laterals

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Tuesday, June 24, 2008 7:40 AM ( #12 )

ORIGINAL: and83

So with your suggestions, i've modified my 5 day split.  Any other corrections i need to make?
Sunday (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training
 
Monday ( Chest + Triceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Incline Benchpress   I would maybe alternate flat/incline
-         Flat benchpress
-         Decline Benchpress or Dips  I perfer dips
-         Skullcrushers
-         Tri push downs (or kickbacks)
 
Tuesday (Backs and Biceps 3x12,10,8)
-         Lat Pull downs (or pull ups)  Pullups
-         Deadlift    put first
-         Bent over BB 
-         Seated Cable Row
-         Close Grip BB Curls
-         Hammer Curls
 
Wed (Cardio)
-         High Intensity Interval Training  It's somtimes good to add variety to this too.  you will adapt to this faster than you would to weight training.
 
Thursday (Legs and Abs 3x12,10,8)  looks great! 
-         Squats
-         Stiff left dead lift  stiff leg deadlift
-         Lunges
-         Standing Calf Raises
-         Crunches
-         Incline Leg Raises
-         Vertical Leg Raises
 
Friday (Shoulders 3x12, 10, 8)  seems like a lot for such a small muscle but you will know what is to much.
-         Arnolds  maybe alternate with OH Press?
-         Machine Rear Deltoid Fly  Hate the word machine!
-         Dumbell Lateral Flies
-         BB upright Row (this hits traps and a bit of the shoulders)
-         DB Shrugs
-         Overhead BB press or Dumbell press  See above on arnolds.  if you do both i would move this to #1 excersise.

No the leg press is not the same as doing squats.
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RE: Look at my 5 day Split - Monday, July 07, 2008 12:07 AM ( #13 )
oh shxt never mind
<message edited by manbeast_animal on Monday, July 07, 2008 12:08 AM>

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