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Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/11/2008 7:52:07 PM   
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Hi all,
I thought this belongs in the beginners section as I *am* a beginner... as far as bulking is concerned Smile
I have lifted weights, bench press, dumbells barbell etc for approx 4 years. The past year or so has really just been a 'maintenance' phase, as i have not been attempting to gain mass and have just been training twice a week.

To cut to the chase, I really want to try a 'bulking' phase, followed by cutting. I want to do it properly however, taking into account BMI and BMR, Diet, caloric intake, cardio, weight lifting frequency and intensity, and everything else possible.

It's a little scary to be honest - I don't want to end up 20kg overweight and nothing to show for it. I'm *very* happy with my body as is (lean but muscular and toned), but that being said - still would really like to try bulking up to get that extra chest/arm/leg size.

A few stats on me:
Age 28
Weight: 70kg (154 pounds)
Height: 177cm
BMR: 1719.6
TDEE: 2665.38

Day 1: Legs (Heavy), Arms (Light)
BB Squats;         3x8-12     40kg
BB Deadlifts;         3x8-12     50kg
BB Lunges;         3x8-12     40kg
Leg Curls;         3x8-12     25kg
Leg Extensions;     3x8-12     32.5kg
BB Calf Raises;        3x12-24    57.5kg
DB Kickbacks;         3x8-12     8kg
DB Bicep Curls;     3x8-12     22.5kg
BB Palm-up Wrist Curls;3x8-12     15kg
BB P-down Wrist Curls; 3x8-12     10kg
BB -down arm curls       3x8-12   10kg

Day 2: Chest (Heavy), Back (Light), Shoulders (Heavy)
DB Flat Bench Press;     3x8-12     40kg
DB Incline Bench Press; 3x8-12     40kg
DB Decline Bench Press 3x8-12     40kg
DB Flat Flies;         3x8-12     10kg
BB Rear Delt Row;     3x8-12     20kg
BB Good Mornings;     3x8-12     26kg
BB Shrugs;         3x8-12     52.5kg
BB Military Press;     3x8-12     25kg
Face-down Plate Raises;3x8-12     10kg
Face-up Plate Raises;     3x8-12     10kg
Neck Lateral Flexion;     3x8-12     10kg

Day 3: Legs (Light), Arms (Heavy)
BB Squats;         3x8-12     32kg
BB Lunges;         3x8-12     32kg
Leg Curls;         3x8-12     20kg
Leg Extensions;     3x8-12     25.5kg
BB Calf Raises;        3x12-24    46kg
DB Kickbacks;         3x8-12     8kg
BB Bicep Curls;     3x8-12     27.5kg
BB P-up Wrist Curls;    3x8-12     17.5kg
BB P-down Wrist Curls; 3x8-12     12.5kg
BB -down arm curls       3x8-12   12.5kg

Day 4: Chest (Light), Back (Heavy), Shoulders (Light)
DB Flat Bench Press;     3x8-12     32kg
DB Incline Bench Press; 3x8-12    32kg
DB Decline Bench Press 3x8-12     32kg
DB Flat Flies;         3x8-12     8kg
BB Rear Delt Row;     3x8-12     25kg
BB Good Mornings;     3x8-12     32.5kg
BB Shrugs;         3x8-12     42kg
BB Military Press;     3x8-12     20kg
Face-down Plate Raises;3x8-12     10kg
Face-up Plate Raises;     3x8-12     10kg
Neck Lateral Flexion;     3x8-12     10kg

Days 1 and 2 occur in week 1, days 2 and 3 occur in week 2 etc.
In addition I do martial arts twice a week (Tuesdays, Fridays) totalling around 3 hours of activity.

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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/14/2008 9:16:54 AM   
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What is your ratio of protein intake daily?


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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/14/2008 10:30:32 AM   
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DanMirage's advice on gaining mass:

http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/m_111173/mpage_1/tm.htm


Hope this is what you wanted

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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/14/2008 3:27:21 PM   
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Eat Eat Eat...  eat clean. I had the same problem and found out that eating every three hours or so helped.  It is all genetics and with me it all comes down to my diet...

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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/14/2008 4:16:13 PM   
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My problem is definitely I don't not eat enough clean protein and carbs, thanks for the tips and the above link.
I think my main problem is that I can't figure how to link the nutritional theory to the actual practice of eating. For example, I have read the P/C/F ratios, I have figured out my BMR (1720 Calories) and TDEE (2665 Calories), I know how many calories I need to take to bulk (3200) and cut (2130), *but*... in everyday practice, how do I coordinate calories vs protein vs carbs vs fat. I just don't know how to do it. I tend to look at a chicken breast and go cross eyed Smile
I have started keeping a journal of what I'm eating, recording Protein, Carb, Fat and Calories in each ingredient hoping that this will help me to understand how many of each I am taking in every meal.

Also I'm making myself familiar with Fitday.com , and met with a personal trainer yesterday to sort through my exercise routine, so hopefully I can get things moving soon.

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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/14/2008 6:20:14 PM   
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I think I am slowly getting there - I have familiarised myself with Fitday.com and put in today's planned meals.
Any feedback on what could change?

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RE: Long term lifter wanting to bulk - 5/17/2008 7:00:29 PM   
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It sounds like you have your diet on track or it is getting there...


I am confused on your routine.

You have heavy and light days, but the rep range stays the same, so you just lift lightly on those days.

I don't know if I can actually help you as you have more experiance than I do, but your routine seems overly complicated.

It might benifit your bulking attempt, if you simplifiy.

what does your trainer have to say about your routine.

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