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Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Sunday, June 01, 2008 7:28 PM
Its funny, because some creatine monohydrate labels tell you to take 3-4 servings a day for the first 5 days, while some don't. Are loading phases really necessary, or no?
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Sunday, June 01, 2008 8:17 PM
IMO its a marketing scam,The more you use,The more you buy .
 
10 gr per day if more than enough
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Saturday, June 14, 2008 5:09 PM
Take Creatine Ethyl Ester and you won't have to load at all.  Much higher absorption rate as well without typical Creatine Monohydrate side effects.  I'm taking some now and I'm seeing impressive results after a few sessions with it.  Try for yourself to see if it is real or not, looks good to me so far.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Saturday, June 14, 2008 10:09 PM

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Take Creatine Ethyl Ester and you won't have to load at all.  Much higher absorption rate as well without typical Creatine Monohydrate side effects.  I'm taking some now and I'm seeing impressive results after a few sessions with it.  Try for yourself to see if it is real or not, looks good to me so far.

 
i really havnt seen much better gains with CEE rather than with CM they seem the same to me but for all creatines there is really no reason for a loading phase, anything over 10g you will just end up pissing it out
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Sunday, June 15, 2008 1:05 AM
CEE is the way to go... Any more than 8 grams you will piss out.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Sunday, June 15, 2008 6:16 PM
CEE is awesome!  I'm getting awesome gains without the problems of CM.  Can't recommend it enough, it is the real deal.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Sunday, June 15, 2008 7:02 PM

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CEE is awesome!  I'm getting awesome gains without the problems of CM.  Can't recommend it enough, it is the real deal.


and these problems would be...?


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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 5:46 AM
I personally haven't taken CM very extensively, I've used CellTech and GNC brand but not really the way you are supposed to traditionally.  The problems I read with CM are the loading phase, bloating, cramping, water retention, etc.  All this so you can get your body to absorb the creatine molecule into the muscle fiber when a majority of it is still not absorbed.  This compared to a reported 98% absorbtion rate of CEE.  You can take what you want, but I am a CEE user for life until something better comes along.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 11:43 AM

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I personally haven't taken CM very extensively, I've used CellTech and GNC brand but not really the way you are supposed to traditionally.  The problems I read with CM are the loading phase, bloating, cramping, water retention, etc.  All this so you can get your body to absorb the creatine molecule into the muscle fiber when a majority of it is still not absorbed.  This compared to a reported 98% absorbtion rate of CEE.  You can take what you want, but I am a CEE user for life until something better comes along.

 
that might not last long. joking. i like CEE too but the problem i have with it is that it is still relatively new and has not been proven to be safe over time.  Creatine mono is proven and effective so i just stick with it.  btw, loading phase is pointless IMO
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 11:50 AM

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I personally haven't taken CM very extensively, I've used CellTech and GNC brand but not really the way you are supposed to traditionally.  The problems I read with CM are the loading phase, bloating, cramping, water retention, etc.  All this so you can get your body to absorb the creatine molecule into the muscle fiber when a majority of it is still not absorbed.  This compared to a reported 98% absorbtion rate of CEE.  You can take what you want, but I am a CEE user for life until something better comes along.

 
You're basing everything you say off of stuff that you have read.  There's plenty of false info out there, and the only thing that is for certain is that creatine mono is tried and true, and CEE hasn't been PROVEN to show any effects better than mono.

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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 11:55 AM
I don't doubt the efficacy of CM and actually when I think back, I did get bad gas and cramping when I took CM and I don't have that with CEE.  Once, I took some Cell Tech and went and played pickup basketball really hard without drinking water and I got dry diarrehea (sp?), it was an incredible explosion in my intestines, and I was glad to get home to get it out of me.  Since CEE is CM with the Ester agent to promote absorbtion, I don't see this being dangerous.

On a different note, how many posts do you need to change your avatar?  Is it 50 or what?  I really want to change mine and I can't.  thanks everyone
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 12:06 PM

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I personally haven't taken CM very extensively, I've used CellTech and GNC brand but not really the way you are supposed to traditionally.  The problems I read with CM are the loading phase, bloating, cramping, water retention, etc.  All this so you can get your body to absorb the creatine molecule into the muscle fiber when a majority of it is still not absorbed.  This compared to a reported 98% absorbtion rate of CEE.  You can take what you want, but I am a CEE user for life until something better comes along.


You're basing everything you say off of stuff that you have read.  There's plenty of false info out there, and the only thing that is for certain is that creatine mono is tried and true, and CEE hasn't been PROVEN to show any effects better than mono.



I basing what I say off of what I see when I look at the guns!  I am getting awesome energy and size increase with CEE.  I haven't taken CM extensively, so I can't say that CEE is definitively a step ahead, but it is much more convienent and I am getting good results, so it is the creatine for me.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 12:40 PM

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On a different note, how many posts do you need to change your avatar?  Is it 50 or what?  I really want to change mine and I can't.  thanks everyone

 
Just upload a pic.  It's under "my profile"  i believe

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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 12:48 PM

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On a different note, how many posts do you need to change your avatar?  Is it 50 or what?  I really want to change mine and I can't.  thanks everyone


Just upload a pic.  It's under "my profile"  i believe


It doesn't work, I tried animated and non-animated pics and they don't work.  I think I read you have to post so many times before you can change your avatar, but I don't remember what the magic number is.  Maybe I'll start a thread about it.
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RE: Loading Phases w/ Creatine Mono? - Monday, June 16, 2008 12:50 PM
BTW, so I don't get in trouble for getting off topic, yes I advise loading CM.  Because of the way it is absorbed, you need all the help you can get, so I advise sticking to the loading phase instructions and cycling off of CM when you are fully saturated with it.  You don't cycle on and off CEE hence more of my recommendation of it.

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