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Lipoderm-Y - 7/28/2003 7:33:11 AM
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Lipoderm-Y
Lipo-Y. What is it, why does it work, and why am I writing about it?
Well, its Avant Labs oldest product, and most heralded product. It has tons of
great feedback, going back over the past several years. I know everything there is
to know about it. How it works, why it works, who should use it, and on and on.
HOWEVER, its the one avant labs product I have not used.
So here I will log my experience.
Obviously I am biased. But I will have to let my reputation for fairness and
honesty work here.
So, what is it? Lipoderm-Y is a potent fat mobilizer that will free " stubborn"
bodyfat when dieting.
What is stubborn bodyfat? Its that fat that you can' t seem to lose in a specific
area even though you are fairly lean elsewhere (typically hip, thighs, butt for
women and stomach for men).
If in fact that fat is " stobborn fat" it will have a higher concentration of alpha 2
receptors. When those receptors are stimulated -- that fat stays.
Yohimbine is an alpha 2 receptor antagonist. And its the active ingredient in
Lipoderm Y. What makes this product special is the delivery system. Several years
ago Par Deus, Avant' s president, designed the most potent [I]localized[/I] gel -- in
other words it delivers the Yohimbine to the stubborn fat directly, rather than to
the bloodstream (systemically).
This does what other products claim but fail to do. Most similar products are
nothing more than a localized diuretic. So you lose inches, but they come right
back, once you stop using it.
Anyway, that' s the low down. This will either be a three or four week experiment,
and I' ll update this every Monday.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 7/28/2003 7:35:08 AM
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Monday 8/28 -- Week 1.
.........Weight......Stomach
8/29.....213............38"
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 7/28/2003 3:39:00 PM
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Just curious, but why did you wait so long to try it?
Also, I have read in the past that it is only effective if you are already quite lean (less than 10%bf), thus it would be ineffective for someone like me (around 17%bf cutting to around 9%bf) on a cutting cycle, correct? I do have stubborn stomach fat so I wish this to not be true.
Lastly, again just curiosity, but is Par Deus a self-taught supplement guru or does he have a degree(s)?
Thanks,
Bryan
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 7/28/2003 3:48:35 PM
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Mostly, he is self taught. He has an undergrad degree of chemistry, which I suppose gave him some background. He has a little med school training. But again, its mostly if not all self taught.
Lipoderm will work at any BF level. It only works well though where the fat is high in alpha 2 receptors. Typically, one would need to get lean enough to know which areas were stubbord.
Why have I not used it? Good question. Mostly, because I have been experiementing with other stuff. Also because its best use is in women in the hip, butt and thigh region.
Normally, men are better served to use Ab-Solved on there abs (works through a different mechanism.
I used ab-solved and had good results the first two weeks, which then halted. This leads me to believe that I store stomach fat with excessive alpha 2 receptors rather than due to stress/cortisol.
BTW, my understanding is that Kris (supps101) will be carrying this soon, for anyone interested in purchasing it.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 8/5/2003 8:02:13 AM
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Update.
Given my pending surgery, I stopped use after only 5 days (on Saturday). On Monday, bodyweight was down 3 pounds and stomach was down 1/2 inch.
Too difficult to say whether it was because of the lipoderm-Y.
I know Leslie has used it successfully, so hopefully she' ll post some comments/stats.
I have surgery scheduled for Friday the 8th. I' ll give myself 3 weeks to recover, then diet beginning 9/2 with Leptigen and Lipoderm. I will only be training legs.
I' ll do this for the entire month of September, and provide results, weekly here. I' ll also likely be using an angrogen (1-test) to stave off atrophy in the upper body while I heal.
Sorry, for ending this so abrubtly. Stay tuned.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 8/7/2003 12:03:41 PM
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---TP--- Question....
Does taking NO2 and creatine & glutamine inhibit the effects and process of Lipoderm-Y.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 8/7/2003 12:23:23 PM
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No.
Taking glut and NO2 really won' t do anything at all, anyway.
But they work through different pathways.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 8/23/2003 11:20:06 AM
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I am from Canada and I have been looking for Lipo - Y and can't find it.... are there any other type of products that are similar to this one?
Oh and thanks for the info TP!
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 8/24/2003 6:04:50 AM
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Supps101, our sponsor should be carrying it shortly, so stay tuned.
Also, I'll be starting this journal back up again after labor day.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 9/2/2003 11:51:29 AM
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Started this up again today. This morning I was:
Weigh: 205
Waist: 38 inches
I was a bit bloated however, so some of that should be water. If I am strict all week, I expect I'll be 200 pounds in 6 days with the stomach at 37 3/4 inches. This would be w/o the lipoderm-Y.
I am also using FL7 and Leptigen.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 9/2/2003 12:14:52 PM
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As with any of the gels, you get a tingling feeling. Its more a product of the carrier then the fact that it is "working".
I also get a warm sensation, and the applied area is generally red for a bit.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 9/9/2003 6:54:41 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Twin Peak
Started this up again today. This morning I was:
Weigh: 205
Waist: 38 inches
Mon Sept. 8.
Weight: 203.5
Waist: 37.5
A half inch is a lot for me, for only a 1.5 pound weight drop.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 9/21/2003 9:33:47 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: Twin Peak
quote:
ORIGINAL: Twin Peak
Started this up again today. This morning I was:
Weigh: 205
Waist: 38 inches
Mon Sept. 8.
Weight: 203.5
Waist: 37.5
A half inch is a lot for me, for only a 1.5 pound weight drop.
This is my update from LAST monday, so I'll update again tomorrow:
Mon Sept. 8.
Weight: 201
Waist: 37
Waist/stomach looks a TAD smaller, and I can feel and see the water retention, as well. All of my pants are *much* looser, and in fact I wore pants on Fri that I have not worn in a year (when I weighed 190) which was cool.
That said, I still have a decent size stomach. Today is my last day of L-Y which marks three full weeks.
I'll post my third week update tomorrow, and then on Friday, my last update, which shoudl reflect lossing the water retention. Then next week I am starting a cycle of Ab-Solved.
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RE: Lipoderm-Y - 9/23/2003 7:54:46 AM
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Anyone else following this, or am I posting for my health? :)
Anywho:
Sept. 1 -- Begin
Weigh: 205
Waist: 38 inches
Sept. 8
Weight: 203.5
Waist: 37.5
Sept. 15
Weight: 201
Waist: 37
Sept. 22 -- End
Weight: 201
Waist: 36 3/4
So over 3 weeks a 1 1/4 inch lost and I lost 4 pounds. Pretty Damn Good. Also, I will provide results and measurements on Fri to see if there was any appreciate water retention, which is to be expected from Yohimbine.
< Message edited by Twin Peak -- 9/23/2003 7:55:16 AM >
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