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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:24 PM
kidngo thanks alot man i appreciate it
 
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 6:47 PM
I've been on the Gakic/Leukic stack for 10 days including today. Of those 10 days I have worked out 7 times (I work out 4 times a week because thats what is recommended for Gakic). I also..for probably 5 or 6 of the work out days have taken a "Extreme Result Dosage"..12 pills 6 am and 6 before workout. I do not feel like the stack has given any side effects that deserve mention. If you want to knit pick...I have had too much gas and ****tin too much and a little extra acne on my chest. These effects could also be from a changed diet...so I guess that's not much use. As for the positive effects of the stack...
3 pounds of weight (not pretending that is muscle only)
1/2 inch bigger bicep (2 Bicep Workouts=1/2 inch?!? prolly inconsistent measurements)
Less soreness
 
I would suggest to buy leukic but not gakic...
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:00 PM
two words for everybody. PLACEBO EFFECT!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
 
Unless you run a clinical trial on yourselves you cannot tell 100% that this stuff works. When you take it your whole life must remain identical to your life before it. Everything you eat and take must be documented. The people saying "i gained 5lbs of muscle in a week". Come on thats 250lbs in a year!!!!!!!!!!! Think about it. I have lifted 50lbs heavier on dead lifts on some days just because my training partner yelled at me and got me psyched up. The hype is created by muscletech they are surfing the forums and seeing that there are 7+ pages on leukic and laughing their way to the bank. Everyone wants to get faster gains but sit back and have a look at what your doing to get it. Are you: training with 100% intensity, getting enough sleep EVERY night, eating a perfect bodybuilding diet with the correct ratios of macro and micro-nutrientsand do you lead a blissful stress free life? If you can answer 100% yes to all these questions then you should be growing without even taking a multivitamin or protein shakes. Supplements are what they are, SUPPLEMENTS to add to a 100% PERFECT pre existing bodybuilding lifestyle. STOP LOOKING FOR SHORTCUTS start with the basics!
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 7:07 PM
dude chill out
nobody said these were magic pills. yes we know they are supplements and that they are not intended to make you huge over night. I understand working out without supplements can get you the same results. but i feel that the luekic is definately helping my recovery time. if you would shut up and just try em then you would know. i dont believe in supplements to be honest. but i know how i feel after working out.
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:02 PM

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dude chill out
nobody said these were magic pills. yes we know they are supplements and that they are not intended to make you huge over night. I understand working out without supplements can get you the same results. but i feel that the luekic is definately helping my recovery time. if you would shut up and just try em then you would know. i dont believe in supplements to be honest. but i know how i feel after working out.

 
I am not doubting that you or anyone knows how they feel after workouts. I think YOU need to chill out. I'm not saying that they are crap, i'm just trying to help people make informed decisions about how they are going to spend their money and grow their muscles and to not get caught up in the hype of marketing.
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Wednesday, March 01, 2006 9:12 PM
FROM NOW ON, ANYONE WHO IS ON LEUKIC MUST WRITE THE PRODUCT REVIEW ON THIS FAQ FORMAT:
 
#1) Have you gained more mass than usual using LEUKIC compared to your usual routine of proper nutrtion/wieght training and other supplements like creatine?
 
#2) About how many pounds of muscle would u say you have gained per week or per month with LEUKIC?
 
#3)  How many pounds of wieght have you added to heavy duty free wieght excersises like DEAD LIFTS / SQUATS/BENCH PRESS?
 
#4)  Does LEUKIC make you feel a certain way after you take it?
 
#5)  Does it have any side effects?


I am not doubting that you or anyone knows how they feel after workouts. I think YOU need to chill out. I'm not saying that they are crap, i'm just trying to help people make informed decisions about how they are going to spend their money and grow their muscles and to not get caught up in the hype of marketing.

 
TATCH NO ONE HAS ANSWERED MY QUESTION:
 
HOW IS LEUKIC DIFFERENT THAN TAKING JUST PLAIN OLD CHEAP BCAA CAPSULES OR L-LEUCINE CAPSULES/TABLETS OR POWDER?
 
 
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:42 AM
hey Buffwannabe you can ****ing use all the big bold words you want it doesnt change how im going to respond. Im not here to ****ing fill out an application on this **** for you so read whatever is said and try to comprehend it. I know it must be difficult for you to understand it if its not in the order "you need" with numbers next to it. ANYHOW im gonna do you a favor and repost something about Leukic and how it is different from BCAA caplets.
 
this right here is a link that will answer ur question http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-Parser?u=/netahtml/srchnum.htm&Sect1=PTO1&Sect2=HITOFF&p=1&r=1&l=50&f=G&d=PALL&s1=6100287.WKU.&OS=PN/6100287&RS=PN/6100287
 
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 6:44 AM
This is from another forum. Next time instead of crying that noone is answering you do a google search.
As with most supplement stacks you are not going to find studies with a direct bodybuilding application. Yes most of the studies MT cites involve leucine. However, if anyone bothered to actually read the studies instead of just the abstracts they would understand the function of leucine's metabolite, alpha-ketoisocaproic acid, is leucine with the ammonia group removed and serves an important role. This causes an enhanced stimulation of phosphorylation which, very simply put, increases the rate of protein synthesis.

"Enhancing muscle recovery following trauma occurs not simply by administering oral or intravenous leucine alone, but instead it responds to increasing the steady-state concentration of .alpha.-ketoisocaproic acid. This anabolic ketoacid is a major factor in reducing protein catabolism, stimulating muscle synthesis, and sparing glucose oxidation, while stimulating insulin release. Indeed, .alpha.-ketoisocaproic acid is superior to leucine in this regard in human and rat muscle studies (Buckspan, R., B. Hoxworth, E. Cersosimo, J. Devlin, E. Horton, N. Abrumrad (1986) "Alpha-ketoisocaproate is superior to leucine in sparing glucose utilization in humans" Am. J. Physiol. 251:E648-E653). "

This what makes it better than bulk leucine. You have to look beyond a single study as with any physioloigical process things can be complicated to the layman. Here is some food for thought:

http://patft.uspto.gov/netacgi/nph-P...&RS=PN/6100287

That is the patent filed by the original University of Florida research team for GAKIC and Leukic. The reason why I bring this up is because anyone claiming they are selling bulk GAKIC or LEUKIC is full of **** because MT is the only company with the licensing rights.

Lastly, LEUKIC has been out for about a month and half through the MT website. The only reviews I am skeptical of are the ones that don't include anything with regards to diet, etc. I am skeptical of these because without these in order a supplement will seem worthless unless it is one of these "effect" supplements which are so popular now.

Lastly, if you guys want to talk about overpriced supplements then why just bust MT's chops? Why not some of these other board friendly supplements which are just as expensive? You have companies who are making a killing selling products which you could buy for ten times cheaper if kids weren't so infatuated with certain reps or companies. I would be a lot more willing to give you examples of this but I have been neg repped so many times for calling out their bull**** that I pick and choose by battles more wisely. MT is not the only company out their trying to turn a profit or that uses shady marketing gimmicks to entice the uninformed consumer.

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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 1:45 PM
Hey Marauder, thank you for giving me that article link, now things have been cleared for me.  Too bad Muscletech didnt do that work for me, and you had to go dig around and search for that stuff. Yes there are plenty of BS products with outrageous claims, and i am sure it does not recieve as much butchering as muscletech, but do u know why people dont pay attention to it?
Because muscletech is the king of BS.  So far,  i have heard good results from LEUKIC, mixed results from GAKIC (more towards negative side), and ANATOR P70 just came out but i am sure people will have results similar to LEUKIC.  I will buy LEUKIC once it is in the affordable price range of $20-$30
 
Thanks for your input.
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:48 PM
i agree buff
i got some leucine tablets for 10 dollars
no reason to pay 70 dollars for them now
gakic and leukic together cost like 150 or so
 
if i can find them on the net for a cheap price then maybe i'll try them both would need to be a combine 100 dollars
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 2:58 PM
im no longer a supporter of this product....gains were minimal, and the cost ratio was insane....
 
i think its a waste of money. and yes i tried it for 3 weeks.
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Thursday, March 02, 2006 3:27 PM
what happened at the beginning u loved this stuff???
i was thinking about trying the stuff for a one month supply
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Friday, March 03, 2006 8:25 PM
no problem buff and good luck with the prices...they prolly wont drop for a long time. It is MuscleTech...king not only of bs but of overpricin
 
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Friday, March 03, 2006 9:28 PM
i dont know what people think leukic is. earlier someone mentioned side effects, dude its just an amino acid not steroids. i can see why buff is getting so mad, must of you dont even know what this stuff is. my sister was looking thru my supplement cabinet and saw my leukic bottle and its "100% anabolic" claim. she asked me if it was like steroids and i told her it was leucine and she just laughed (when she goes to college, she will be a science major like me, so she knows what leucine is). i then showed her my tiny SD bottle (that was sitting next to the leukic) and said it was similar to steroids. its just funny how she would look back the serious stuff and notice the one muscletech product as a result of its crazy claims on the bottle. this must be why all the noobs buy muscletech.
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RE: LEUKIC by MuscleTech - Saturday, March 04, 2006 2:51 AM
im actually starting to believe that Gakic not Leukic is the real deal..i think the growth gains of leukic are all placebo effect and that you'll put on gains regardless as long as u train,eat,sleep right......but gakic like other workout supps can give u huge boost while at the gym....
 
for example, last sun i did chest, i was maxin 215 at 10 reps...this has been the norm for the last 2 weeks, (8 reps the week before).....well today i decided to take a scoop of the gakic that has been sitting on my shelf, mixed that in with 1 scoop of my energy drink. and voila.....so i get to the gym, i work m way up to 225 (my next goal), i somehow busted out 10 reps....i couldnt believe it, i got so psyched....stack on another 20, now im at an imposing 245, something ive never tried before, and I did 8 reps, cleanly through 7......i was shocked....
 
i dont really care if it doenst add mass, cuz eventually it will, the NO will open ur veins more, allowing more creatine and nutrients to the muscle fibers, thus all in all adding mass....same principle as creatine, if you jump from 200 lbs to 300 lbs benching, it may be due to the creatine, but when u get off of it, ur not gonna lose your strength back down to 200, maybe 260-285 depending on the person, so u added size and muscle.
 
ill keep u informed.
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