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RE: Update: 2007-09-09 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:46 PM ( #31 )
Double biceps...

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RE: Update: 2007-09-09 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:47 PM ( #32 )
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RE: Update: 2007-09-09 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 6:48 PM ( #33 )
I think I'm probably finished cutting for a little bit, as I believe I'm hitting a point of diminishing returns. I'm gonna bulk for a month or two to kick up my metabolism before trying to get into sub 10% body fat territory.

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RE: Update: 2007-09-09 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 7:13 PM ( #34 )
Damn dude, HUGE improvement since your original pics posted back in June.  I wish I could get cut up like that.  I never really had problems packing on some muscle, but trying to lose body fat is a b****.
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RE: Update: 2007-09-09 - Sunday, September 09, 2007 8:39 PM ( #35 )
LOL, I don't know if I'd quite say that I'm "cut up". I've been cutting for just over 5 months now, and the last couple have really been like pulling teeth. Feels like I've been cutting forever, and I've still got fat to lose.
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RE: 5 months progress - Sunday, September 09, 2007 8:56 PM ( #36 )
Nice work buddy!

Keep it up.



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RE: 5 months progress - Sunday, September 09, 2007 9:51 PM ( #37 )
Id say your ready to start bulking.   From where you are now to show alot of definition you would need to lose alot more weight just due to the fact that your muscles are small. 
 
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RE: 5 months progress - Monday, September 10, 2007 6:04 AM ( #38 )
I am a little disappointed that I still can't really see my abs. If I dig into the fat on my stomach with my fingers I can feel where the grooves would be, and I think the reason I can't see them is mostly because those groves aren't that deep. In other words, I gotta pack more mass on to them before they'll really show up. The good news is that I have just enough definition to know that when they are visible, they're going to have that really cool V shape going into my pants.

@twisted: you can see in the first picture what I was saying in that other thread about how "fat piles up in my armpits when I flex". You can see on my right side how all the fat is on the side and in my armpit instead of in the usual man-boob area.

I still have fat to lose, but at this point, with as little muscle as I have, there would be no point, so yeah, I'm gonna start bulking for a little while at least.

But I'm glad to know that I can lose weight when I want to. I'd never really tried to lose weight before, and with all the fat old people I see around, and with how so many people struggle with their weight, it can make ya nervous. But now that I know I have the necessary willpower, I can feel more confident about bulking knowing that if I inadvertently gain too much fat, I'll be able to take it back off. Plus, I can go out and buy some new pants.
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RE: 5 months progress - Monday, September 10, 2007 6:12 AM ( #39 )
Yup, I'd agree and say that it's time to do some bulking. 
 
What exactly did you do for your 5 months of cutting, if you don't mind giving me an explanation of diet, routine, cardio, etc...?
 
I just want to see if I'm going about cutting the right way.  I'm doing 2500 cal/day with a hypertrophy specific routine 3 days a week (I know it sounds counterproductive, but it's a great routine), and I do about 20 minutes of intense cardio after I lift. 
 
Bulking is easy, IMO, cutting is a pain in the ass.
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Re: Jheft's progress pics - Monday, September 10, 2007 6:51 AM ( #40 )
That's actually not far from what I've been doing myself. My workout routine has been a 3 or 4 day split, with hypertrophy rep ranges. I've varied it a bit, but most recently it's been "push, pull, legs and miscellaneous". The "miscellaneous" day has abs plus the "small" exercises I could peel off from the other days most easily (specifically, shrugs, calves, abs and forearms.) The legs day I honestly just devote all my energy to doing squats and dead-lifts with as much intensity as possible. It's the shortest routine, but the most exhausting.

For cardio, I'd been doing 20-40 minutes of medium intensity after lifting weights. A couple weeks ago, I switched that to just 5 minutes or so of light intensity cardio (for cooldown), and started doing HIIT on the mornings of my off days. I wish I had been doing that all along, as I can't even believe how much that's improved my cardiovascular conditioning in just two weeks. It is brutal though.

My diet has been anywhere 20-30% of calories from fat, trying for 180 grams of protein, and the remainder from carbs, with as little sugar as possible. About 2400-2600 calories total. The carbs are from whole grain stuff - whole grain cold cereals (e.g. shredded wheat), 100% whole grain bread, etc. I can only stand so much brown rice, so I do have white rice, but it's always very long grain rice like basmati, which is almost as low GI as brown rice. I do let myself have small portions of fruit with meals, but only those that have lots of pectin (soluble fiber) and not many calories. Raspberries, clementines, apples, etc. I'm not very good about my veggies, I hate them. I don't drink much milk* because it has so much sugar, plus I'm mildly lactose intolerant, so I have to take lactase if I'm having more than a glass or so. I do eat low-fat cottage cheese and sometimes plain low-fat yogurt. And I love cheese, so I have small portions (so long as I don't break my fat budget with them). Protein is from turkey, chicken, very lean beef, tuna, talapia and unsweetened soy milk (Silk, all other brands of soy milk are completely undrinkable). If I'm cooking the meat myself, it's fried up in a little light olive oil. I've got a healthy Sloppy Joe recipe I've been working on that I'll probably post here when I get it refined.

My pre-workout nutrition has been 50 grams of ON whey (about two scoops, but I always go by weight) about 30 minutes before the workout, then 5 grams BCAAs immediately before, then 5 more grams after the post-workout cardio, then a full regular meal 30-60 minutes after that. I don't really take whey at other times. I've been taking creatine monohydrate, 5 grams daily. I just have it in the morning with breakfast and my multivitamin.

And I have one or two cheats a week. Usually a bunch of pizza or a beer or two.

I gotta tell you brihead, I still can't get over how much different the two of us look considering how close our height and weight is. I hope I can pack on some of that upper body mass you have.

* I don't have ideological reasons, or conspiracy laden reasons for not drinking milk. I like milk. It just has a ton of sugar.
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RE: 5 months progress - Monday, September 10, 2007 7:58 AM ( #41 )
Wow, thanks for that explanation.  That's similar to what my diet/training looks like, except I don't have as much fat in my diet (which I should).  I started doing hitt cardio in the mornings on my off days from lifting, but I've read that that's counterproductive.  I read that if you are doing both strength training and endurance training, your body will choose endurance.  My ultimate goal is strength and muscle mass, not endurance.  I also read that if you really want to do cardio and strength (I'm using that interchangebly with hypertrophy) training, then you would be better off doing high intensity cardio immediately after lifting.  I don't know if that is true or not, but I don't want to risk it.  I'd rather conserve my strength.
 
Anyway, the only reason that my upper body is big is because I've been lifting for about 6 years now.  I don't look like a 6-year lifter because I never had a good diet before, but 6 years of lifting is still 6 years of lifting.  Also, I never did legs before either.  I just started doing them like 4 months ago, and that made my upper body get even bigger.  I have never been able to get that lean look though, which is sort of what I'm going for now before I start bulking again.  You know, like Toolman, soccerking, twisted, etc....  That's what I'm shooting for, but it's friggin hard to get the bf down that low. 
 
Keep up the good work though. 
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RE: 5 months progress - Monday, September 10, 2007 8:24 AM ( #42 )
Well, my goal recently was fat loss, which is why I did HIIT. But from everything I've read about it, it does a better job conserving muscle than other types of cardio. I'm going to continue doing it while bulking just because it's improved my conditioning so much (which I know is going to improve my performance on certain lifts - esp. squats), but I'm only going to do it 1-2 days per week so I won't be fighting my hypertrophy goals too much.

As far as when to do it (mornings or not, or post-workout or not), I don't know how much hard data there is on the subject. The reason I do it in the morning is because I can squeeze it into my schedule there and save myself time. And I'm not going to do it after my workout - I'll be way too tired to give it my best effort.

My primary long term goal is to be a sexy beast, strength improvement is only relevant insofar as it gets me to the primary goal. If you look at Olympic athletes, the ones with the most shredded physiques are the runners in the 100-400m range, and they are certainly muscular enough, which is why HIIT makes complete sense to me.
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RE: 5 months progress - Monday, September 10, 2007 6:51 PM ( #43 )
Here's a more muscular pose... I'm not calling it a "most muscular" pose, because it's not near muscular enough. :-)

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RE: 5 months progress - Tuesday, September 11, 2007 8:58 AM ( #44 )
Great job ure legs really look good and ure triceps and back
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Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:06 PM ( #45 )
Alright, here's what I saw in the mirror the other day that made me think it was time to take new pictures.

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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Wednesday, December 19, 2007 10:07 PM ( #46 )
And a back shot...

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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:40 AM ( #47 )
"Wow", Jheft is all I have to say... INCREDIBLE progress, your approaching your one year it looks like, from the day you took that first picture.. I thought there was in improvement in your posts, those differences, but wow. you really cut it up, and stayed dedicated. Very, very impressive. Keep up the good work.
 
 
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:10 AM ( #48 )
looking good for sure, good work
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 7:11 AM ( #49 )
Nice work man. 
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:09 AM ( #50 )
making progress! :)
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 9:23 AM ( #51 )
Nice job Jheft.


More to come with the new year. Stay strong and things will only get better.




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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:00 AM ( #52 )
And don't worry - the New Year is going to start with some serious, long term bulking. I may get as high as 200 again before cutting. I'm gonna try to make it 4-6 months of bulking before I chicken out.

The story so far...
185 -> 202 -> 173 -> 181 -> 175 (now) -> 200? (June-ish) -> ?
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 10:40 AM ( #53 )
Excellant!!!

Great progress. Really noticeable now.

Maybe I was being a little hasty about our breakup??
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:03 AM ( #54 )
That is great progress bro! very nice job. You look like a totally different person!
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 11:14 AM ( #55 )

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Maybe I was being a little hasty about our breakup??

Too late, baby. You had a good thing and you gave it up. I gotta give some other ladies a crack at this handsome slice of man-meat.
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:00 PM ( #56 )

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And don't worry - the New Year is going to start with some serious, long term bulking. I may get as high as 200 again before cutting. I'm gonna try to make it 4-6 months of bulking before I chicken out.

The story so far...
185 -> 202 -> 173 -> 181 -> 175 (now) -> 200? (June-ish) -> ?

 
Don't be a p***y.  Bulk till you're 230 .
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 12:43 PM ( #57 )
 Looking good man!! Good to see your face also, I always pictured you as a mix between Jerry Sienfeld and Gene Hackman.
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:02 PM ( #58 )
lookin much better man!!! keep it up, hit the chest 2 times a week so it'll catch up!!
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 1:54 PM ( #59 )

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Maybe I was being a little hasty about our breakup??

Too late, baby. You had a good thing and you gave it up. I gotta give some other ladies a crack at this handsome slice of man-meat.

 
That's fine You go get all the fatties you want. and your right it was the puns more than anything, I would have three wayed with the chubbies, if you would just shut up for once.
 
Nic is waiting for me anyway.
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RE: Jheft's progress pics (new pics 2007-12-19) - Thursday, December 20, 2007 3:31 PM ( #60 )
Sweet progress dude. Keep it goin'.
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