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Alan123

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Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 6:06 AM
Breakfast - 3 whole eggs + 25g Tasty Cheddar Cheese
3 Whole Eggs
Cals: 270cals  Protein: 18.9g  Fat: 21g  Carbs: 1.2g
Cheddar Cheese - Cals:
Cals: 102cals  Protein: 6.7g  Fat: 8.4g  Carbs: <1g
Got nutritional info for eggs:
http://www.calorie-count.com/calories/item/1128.html
10ml Flaxeed Oil
Cals: 78cals  Protein: 0g  Fat: 9g  Carbs: 0g


Mid Morning - 2 tablespoons All natural peanut Butter
Cals: 300cals  protein: 14.2g  Fat: 24g  Carbs: 5.6g



Lunch: 300g Lean Beef
Cals - 240cals  Protein: 53g  Fat: 3.9g  Carbs: <1g

Afternoon: Oven Cooked Skinless Chicken Breast
Cals - 300cals  Protein: 60g  Fat: 4.5g  Carbs: 0g
Got the nutritional from this site for chicken:
http://www.thedailyplate.com/nutrition-calories/food/generic/grilled-skinless-chicken-breast

-workout-
Right after workout - Protein Shake:
Cals: 240  Protein: 48g  Fat: 5.1g  Carbs: 5.4g

Dinner: 1 whole egg  + Oven Cooked Skinless Chicken Breast
Egg -
Cals: 90cals  Protein: 6.3g  Fat: 7g  Carbs: 0.4g
Chicken -
Cals: 120cals Protein: 24g  Fat: 1.5g Carbs: 0g



Totals:
Calories: 1740 so far
Fats: 84.4g
Carbs: 12.6g
Protein: 241.1g
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 7:36 AM
you need more fats and more calories. 

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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:07 AM
yea definitely not enough fat
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 8:09 AM
alan123, i think your problem is that you don't necessarily understand fat.....

fat in the mouth does not equate to fat on your hips or thighs or stomach area
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:04 AM
also, depending on how much you weigh, you can up your carb intake

you want to be very careful and DO NOT CHEAT, you will gain weight if you do

i'd only recommend it for 7-14 days.  then move to an isocaloric eating plan
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:06 AM

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

also, depending on how much you weigh, you can up your carb intake

you want to be very careful and DO NOT CHEAT, you will gain weight if you do

i'd only recommend it for 7-14 days.  then move to an isocaloric eating plan

that makes no sense, why would anyone do a keto diet for 7-14 days?? the adaptations to a real keto diet dont even really kick in until about 3 weeks in
 
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:10 AM

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ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

also, depending on how much you weigh, you can up your carb intake

you want to be very careful and DO NOT CHEAT, you will gain weight if you do

i'd only recommend it for 7-14 days.  then move to an isocaloric eating plan

that makes no sense, why would anyone do a keto diet for 7-14 days?? the adaptations to a real keto diet dont even really kick in until about 3 weeks in



depending on what his goals are.

if he's still trying to get bigger, then it makes sense to cycle it on and off.  do it for two weeks, take a week off (he needs carbohydrates if he's trying to get bigger)

if he just wants to lose weight without caring about muscle mass, then sure, do it as long as you want
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:13 AM
without caring about muscle mass? keto is protein sparing, and if he is going to do it even to stay lean it shouldnt be for 2 weeks because the weight will fluctuate so much he wont even know whats going on, then when he tried to introduce carbs so quickly it'll screw him up.
if your gonna do keto you should be on it for considerably longer than 2 weeks
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:19 AM

ORIGINAL: David1991

without caring about muscle mass? keto is protein sparing, and if he is going to do it even to stay lean it shouldnt be for 2 weeks because the weight will fluctuate so much he wont even know whats going on, then when he tried to introduce carbs so quickly it'll screw him up.
if your gonna do keto you should be on it for considerably longer than 2 weeks


at the end of two weeks, it's good to just go out and eat whatever you want to restore your glycogen stores.  i can do a keto run for two weeks that consists of 3000 calories, 267 g of protein, 203 grams of fat, and less than 40 carbs and lose weight quickly. but after the two weeks, i need carbohydrates; it's simply

"one cannot live without bread alone"
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:25 AM

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331


ORIGINAL: David1991

without caring about muscle mass? keto is protein sparing, and if he is going to do it even to stay lean it shouldnt be for 2 weeks because the weight will fluctuate so much he wont even know whats going on, then when he tried to introduce carbs so quickly it'll screw him up.
if your gonna do keto you should be on it for considerably longer than 2 weeks


at the end of two weeks, it's good to just go out and eat whatever you want to restore your glycogen stores.  i can do a keto run for two weeks that consists of 3000 calories, 267 g of protein, 203 grams of fat, and less than 40 carbs and lose weight quickly. but after the two weeks, i need carbohydrates; it's simply

"one cannot live without bread alone"



why do you think you lose weight quickly? it's because you have such lower carbs so you lose a ton of water/glycogen weight. after 2 weeks you do a refeed to replenish glycogen but you dont go back to a normal diet, you stay with a keto diet..thats the whole point.
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 9:27 AM

ORIGINAL: David1991


ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331


ORIGINAL: David1991

without caring about muscle mass? keto is protein sparing, and if he is going to do it even to stay lean it shouldnt be for 2 weeks because the weight will fluctuate so much he wont even know whats going on, then when he tried to introduce carbs so quickly it'll screw him up.
if your gonna do keto you should be on it for considerably longer than 2 weeks


at the end of two weeks, it's good to just go out and eat whatever you want to restore your glycogen stores.  i can do a keto run for two weeks that consists of 3000 calories, 267 g of protein, 203 grams of fat, and less than 40 carbs and lose weight quickly. but after the two weeks, i need carbohydrates; it's simply

"one cannot live without bread alone"



why do you think you lose weight quickly? it's because you have such lower carbs so you lose a ton of water/glycogen weight. after 2 weeks you do a refeed to replenish glycogen but you dont go back to a normal diet, you stay with a keto diet..thats the whole point.


it's very possible to go to another diet like an isocaloric diet or MCD
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 4:37 PM
it's obviously possible, it's possible to not eat anything but why would you.

doing a keto diet for 2 weeks and going back to a higher carb diet right away doesnt make any sense. the only exception i could see is if you were already cutting down with fairly low carbs and wanted to get ripped for a show or something in which case doing 2 weeks of keto could be used so that you could lose a little more fat and have a carb refeed right before the competition.
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Monday, July 07, 2008 1:06 AM
Breakfast -

4 whole eggs
Cals - 296  Protein - 26.6g  Fat - 21g Carbs - 0.6g
200g Shoulder Picnic Bacon
cals - 304  Protein - 25.2g  Fat - 20.4g  Carbs - 5.2g


Midmorning -

300g Lean Beef
Cals - 240  Protein - 53g  Fat - 3.9g  Carbs - <1g

Lunch -

3x Skinless Franfurt Sausages (189g)
Cals - 555  Protein - 18.9g  Fat - 51g  Carbs - 7.2g

Afternoon -

Oven cooked Skinless Chicken Breast
Cals - 300  Protein - 60g  Fat - 4.5g  Carbs - 0g

------------------workout------------------
Right After workout -

Protein Shake
Cals - 240  Protein - 48g  Fat - 5.1g  Carbs - 5.4g

Dinner

3 whole eggs
Cals - 202  Protein - 19.95g  Fat - 15.75g Carbs - 0.45g
200g Shoulder Picnic Bacon
cals - 304  Protein - 25.2g  Fat - 20.4g  Carbs - 5.2g


Totals -

Fat - 142.05g
Protein - 276.75g
Carbs - 24.05g
Cals - 2441

I train 5 days a week so my BMi total etc is about 2900 to maintain so i take 500 = 2400cals.
So thats where im at. Im just finding it hard to find more fatty foods that
arnt from a takeaway shop lol. But yea hows it looking now?
Also im in Australia anyone know wher i can buy those ketosis sticks etc ?

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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Monday, July 07, 2008 6:16 AM
to the OP.
 
here is a thread that david did last year involving a Keto diet.  Please look closely at the ratios of P/C/F.  aslo you can look through bodybuilding.com to obtain further information regarding Keto.
 
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/Davids_keto_diet_for_mass__idea_from_dapunisher/m_275149/tm.htm
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RE: Is my keto diet on track? - Monday, July 07, 2008 6:56 AM
52/45/3
fat/pro/carb
 
Much better. Before you had 43% fat and around 55% protein.
 
You don't have carbs post workout. You definately need carbs post. 15-20g Dextrose should suffice.
If you can't get dextrose use gatorade powder (1 serving) or Waxy Maize.
 
As for keto sticks... don't waste money on them. You shouldn't have a problem getting into ketosis with those ratios. Make sure you don't carb up for around 10-14 days when first starting. Then carb up normally.
Failure isn't falling down... it's staying down.
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