Is this overtraining?

Workout#1 
Incline Bench Press With Barbell - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Flat Dumbell Bench Press - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Dumbell Decline Flyes - 12,12,12 Reps      
Deadlifts - 5-6,5-6 Reps      
Bent Over Barbell Row - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Lat Machine Pulldowns - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Standing Barbell Curl - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Concentration Curl - 12,12,12 Reps      
Crunches - 20 Reps      
 
Workout #2 
Barbell Free Squat - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
Leg-extensions - 12,12,12 Reps        
Military Press - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
Dumbell Shoulder Press - 10,10,8 Reps        
Side Raise - 12,12,12 Reps        
Skull Crasher - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
One Hand Cable Triceps Pushdown - 12,12,12 Reps        
Leg Raise - 20,20,20,20 Reps



Would you guys consider this overtraining if I'm doing it Monday/Tuesday n then thursday/friday? If so, what would you suggest then? because I'm going from a 3 day a week full body to this, looking for better gains.

If these routines take longer than an hour, and they look like they do, you are deprving yourself of results.  Try to get in one exercise per bodypart on this type of plan and save the alternates for a routine change in a couple of months.  Or maybe every couple of weeks if you like to change things up.

no squats, and too many similar exercises done slightly differently, i think.

Bench Press Max - 170kg @ 100kg
Squat Max - 220kg @100kg
Deadlift Max - 275kg @100kg

Weight - 90kg

agreed ^^^

Workout#1 
Incline Bench Press With Barbell - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Flat Dumbell Bench Press - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Dumbell Decline Flyes - 12,12,12 Reps      
Deadlifts - 5-6,5-6 Reps      
Bent Over Barbell Row - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Lat Machine Pulldowns - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Standing Barbell Curl - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps      
Concentration Curl - 12,12,12 Reps      
Crunches - 20 Reps      
 
Workout #2 
Barbell Free Squat - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
Leg-extensions - 12,12,12 Reps        
Military Press - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
Dumbell Shoulder Press - 10,10,8 Reps        
Side Raise - 12,12,12 Reps        
Skull Crasher - 10,8-9,6-7 Reps        
One Hand Cable Triceps Pushdown - 12,12,12 Reps        
Leg Raise - 20,20,20,20 Reps

Very unnecessary. If you insist on this routine I would definitely split it up into different days.

Day 1- Chest
1) Flat Dumbell Press
2) Incline Barbell Press
3) Decline Dumbell Flyes

Day 2- Back
1) Deadlifts
2) Barbell Row
3) Latpulldown (although pull-ups are better)

Day 3- Shoulders
1) Dumbell Shoulder Press
2) BO Lateral Raise
3) Side Lateral Raise

Day 4- Legs
1) Barbell Back Squat
2) Leg Extensions
3) Hamstring Curls

Day 5- Arms
1) Standing Barbell Curl
2) Concentration Curls
3) Skull Crushers
4) One Arm Tricep Pressdown

Seems a lot more suitable.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

i think an arm day is a waste. Continue on your full body workout, just don't do so many of the same muscles on the same day.

nrod9


i think an arm day is a waste. Continue on your full body workout, just don't do so many of the same muscles on the same day.

Training arms is fine and so is a split.
 
Training arms can not only strengthen the synergists during the big compounds to help actually improve the compound lifts but if someone wants big arms they should go about that by working their arms.
 
Not everyone responds the same way, I worked with full body for over a year and arms didn't respond at all. I had to start doing direct arm work to give my arms to grow, no one is the same.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

Thats true MVP. My arms are growing doing the full-body routines. So i guess what works for me, may not work for you. My arms aren't very big, maybe 14 around. but i think i get sufficient tears in my triceps after doing bench and dips and feel no further need in tearing the muscle fiber anymore because what i have already done with the compound movements of the bench press will promote growth. I don't have ronnie coleman arms so i dont have to sit there and do numerous isolations on a muscle that has already been worked out during my bench press or my rows or mu pullups. I used to workout arms by themselves, then i stumbled apon this site, started doing full body workouts and never looked back. Everyone has their own.

Yeah nrod, usually if someone has small arms 12" for example they won't need assistance work, mine didn't up until they got around the 14" mark and then just wouldn't grow. I'm aat 16" (flexed) now from the isolations that I cycle, I go back and forth between splits and full body, usually between a 3 month period or whenever I stop responding, I cycle the arm work and it works wonders for me (personally).

Full body and splits both work, both do wonders, but both have their pros and cons as well as advantages and disadvantages. Usually for a beginner I'll recommend a full body routine almost all the time, seeing that beginners do not need isolations, but as someone progresses and becomes more advanced, splits become more essential to their goal.

ACE-CPT, NASM-CPT, AFPA-Nutrition Consultant 

Yea MVP is bang on. You can even continue full body routines and add a few isos at the end of your workout, just to bring up lagging parts. Maybe i'll start doing a little bicep work because i've been stuck at 14" for a bit now. I think 21's at the end of my full body routine will work. I'm going to measure my arms tom, and if i remember i'll check back after 6 weeks or so

routines can take longer than an hour....the routine im doing calls for at least 3 min of rest between each set and it takes about an hour and a half each workout. It's not how long it takes, its how many sets per muscle group you have. stay with about 12-15 sets per muscle group. Anything over 15 is OVERTRAINING. It doesnt look like over training to me tho, you are on the verge, but i dont relle like the routine. If youre a beginner, do starting strength....just google it..... or split that routine into 3 workouts.You could try working each muscle gruop every 5 days, it did wonders for me.

Mon-Chest, Shoulders Tris
Wed-Back,Bis,Forearms
Thurs-Legs,Abs
Sat-Chest Shoulders, Tris
Mon-Back,Bis,forearms
Tues-Legs,Abs
Thurs-Chest,Shoulders,Tris
ETC

Supps:Animal Pak, NO shotgun, Whey


Bench 1RM:210
Squat 1RM:300
Deadlift 3RM:375
Arm Size:14.5 IN
Phase:Bulking