I'd like to get there

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would this be 100% natural or juiced ? he's got some nice looking physique and i'd like to get there someday...

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

id say he juices, i really dont know though.  And thats alot further than id ever like to take my body haha.

his quads are effing awesome though.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

We wouldn't know for sure. Good looking guy though. That's one of those fitness model comps isn't it?

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nah he's not juicing.

To ripped, i don't know where that pic is from i fell on it. '' i weren't wanding on any suspicious sites dont worry people) but that's where I wanna get and I hope he didn't juice cause that'd be a shame =/

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

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Age = 20 
started in February 16th 2007: 58kg (127.6lbs)
current : around 79-80kg (173.8lb-176lb)

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

Must be around 10 years to get there?

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

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Must be around 10 years to get there?

depends on his diet, workout plan, and somewhat with his genetics

mostly his diet though

boomer, find me a natural bodybuilder as big as him.


Then again, you cant prove theyre natural either...

I think he juiced.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

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boomer, find me a natural bodybuilder as big as him.


Then again, you cant prove theyre natural either...

I think he juiced.

in a few years, i'll be as big as him. 

i know a 52 year old that lives in idaho that's as big as him, and he doesn't juice. 

just because someone is big, doesn't mean they cheated.  i get accused of it all the time, but i don't.

it's very possible and the goal is attainable.  it just takes hard work and knowing what you're doing

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

 
 
Second of all
that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

 
first of all, im not trying to start an argument or anything but you went out on a limb and said hes not juicing like you know this dude and have blood work on him.
 
second of all, i think it is more reasonable to say that there is a 95% chance hes not all natural. it is very hardto become that big, you should know that after all you do preach on how hard it is to gain muscle. I dont know many people who's genetics will allow for that kind of growth, unless they have GIFTED GENETICS. im not saying the guy doesn't but 95% of people dont have GIFTED GENETICS, especially like that.
 
All in all he has a very nice physique. Years on years of dedication and hard work for sure. But i agree with stones, i dont think i would every wanna b that big.

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

Second of all
that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

first of all, im not trying to start an argument or anything but you went out on a limb and said hes not juicing like you know this dude and have blood work on him.

second of all, i think it is more reasonable to say that there is a 95% chance hes not all natural. it is very hardto become that big, you should know that after all you do preach on how hard it is to gain muscle. I dont know many people who's genetics will allow for that kind of growth, unless they have GIFTED GENETICS. im not saying the guy doesn't but 95% of people dont have GIFTED GENETICS, especially like that.

All in all he has a very nice physique. Years on years of dedication and hard work for sure. But i agree with stones, i dont think i would every wanna b that big.

i'm not trying to start an argument either

no, i do not have bloodwork on the guy, and i do not know him personally.  but we know nothing about the guy......his workout schedule, his diet, his age, etc.  wouldn't you think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt, since we know nothing about him?

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

Second of all
that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

first of all, im not trying to start an argument or anything but you went out on a limb and said hes not juicing like you know this dude and have blood work on him.

second of all, i think it is more reasonable to say that there is a 95% chance hes not all natural. it is very hardto become that big, you should know that after all you do preach on how hard it is to gain muscle. I dont know many people who's genetics will allow for that kind of growth, unless they have GIFTED GENETICS. im not saying the guy doesn't but 95% of people dont have GIFTED GENETICS, especially like that.

All in all he has a very nice physique. Years on years of dedication and hard work for sure. But i agree with stones, i dont think i would every wanna b that big.

i'm not trying to start an argument either

no, i do not have bloodwork on the guy, and i do not know him personally.  but we know nothing about the guy......his workout schedule, his diet, his age, etc.  wouldn't you think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt, since we know nothing about him?

lol what?? no

Its not like hed tell you if he was juicing...They dont need people knowing that, especially someone they dont really know...

i get accused of juicing too, but its because of the change i made in such a short time. 

Idk if you realize that half (actually i have no idea tha percentage but it has to be high) of tha "natural" bbers arent natural at all.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

Second of all
that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

first of all, im not trying to start an argument or anything but you went out on a limb and said hes not juicing like you know this dude and have blood work on him.

second of all, i think it is more reasonable to say that there is a 95% chance hes not all natural. it is very hardto become that big, you should know that after all you do preach on how hard it is to gain muscle. I dont know many people who's genetics will allow for that kind of growth, unless they have GIFTED GENETICS. im not saying the guy doesn't but 95% of people dont have GIFTED GENETICS, especially like that.

All in all he has a very nice physique. Years on years of dedication and hard work for sure. But i agree with stones, i dont think i would every wanna b that big.

i'm not trying to start an argument either

no, i do not have bloodwork on the guy, and i do not know him personally.  but we know nothing about the guy......his workout schedule, his diet, his age, etc.  wouldn't you think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt, since we know nothing about him?

 
I would like to say that you are giving the benefit of the doubt in the wrong place bro. his physique is outta this world and hard to attain. not many lifting joes can look like that. if it makes you happy ill say the dudes not juicing.. there i dont care if he is or not but you are jumping  to ignorant and confident answers saying he is NOT JUICING fo sho like u know hes not. Im just explaining that yeah if he has all the peices, meaning he lifts right, perfect diet and great genetics ect., sure yeah hes not juicing. but RARELY do you find this. Plus im not saying the dude IS JUICING, but the benefit of the doubt is that he is b/c it is rare to find have all the peices. Its like you telling me you saw a kamoto dragon in your backyard throwing a munch on some lettus and you live  block down from me.. so, just b/c i dont know you, you deserve the benefit of the doubt? no, benefit of the doubt is givin when using common knowledge also. We all share the common knowledge the a physique like that is very hard to obtain, and without enhancers like roids, a physique like that is rare to have.

It is not the years in your life, but the life in your years.

He probably has some awesome genetics. Don't ask how I can tell.

everytime you guys state he took steroids my dad give me a beating.

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My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

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everytime you guys state he took steroids my did give me a beating.

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lmao

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I agree with boomer. Best to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than accuse him of cheating when we don't know him. He's not THAT huge. I think jealousy plays into some of your accusations. I think it's funny how there are thread where everyone b!tches about being accused of using roids and then you all turn on some guy you don't even know and do it to him.

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I agree with boomer. Best to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than accuse him of cheating when we don't know him. He's not THAT huge. I think jealousy plays into some of your accusations. I think it's funny how there are thread where everyone b!tches about being accused of using roids and then you all turn on some guy you don't even know and do it to him.

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i think that is very attainable without steroids

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maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

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I agree with boomer. Best to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than accuse him of cheating when we don't know him. He's not THAT huge. I think jealousy plays into some of your accusations. I think it's funny how there are thread where everyone b!tches about being accused of using roids and then you all turn on some guy you don't even know and do it to him.

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I agree with boomer. Best to give him the benefit of the doubt rather than accuse him of cheating when we don't know him. He's not THAT huge. I think jealousy plays into some of your accusations. I think it's funny how there are thread where everyone b!tches about being accused of using roids and then you all turn on some guy you don't even know and do it to him.

 
yeah point taken, i think your wrong on the fact of jealousy.. i have never hoped to be that big nor do i want to be. that body is nice but not what im shooting for myself to be like. i have just never thought the human body can expand like that without enhancers, but yeah nice genetics u can say yada yada. i dnt wanna argue its w/e.

It is not the years in your life, but the life in your years.

the only part about that guy that would make me think he was juiceing is his abs. they stick out so far its rediculous!!
 
but im not saying that physique is not attainable

Current: 19, 5'11", 190@7%

bench:305 squat:370(atg) deadlift:475
Goals: 4plate squat, 5plate dead

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He's pretty big but it's not like he's freaky big.

I don't know if I'm seein this right but it looks like he has four abs on the right side and 3 on the left.

If it wasn't painfully difficult then you didn't do it right

age:18
5' 81/2"
173 lbs
goal : 195


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nah he's not juicing.

How do you know he's not? Even if you know him personally, you may not know whether he juices or not.

Second of all
that kind of body is very attainable without juicing. 

he might be. but if i were to bet on it, i'd say there's a 95 % chance it's all natural. 

first of all, im not trying to start an argument or anything but you went out on a limb and said hes not juicing like you know this dude and have blood work on him.

second of all, i think it is more reasonable to say that there is a 95% chance hes not all natural. it is very hardto become that big, you should know that after all you do preach on how hard it is to gain muscle. I dont know many people who's genetics will allow for that kind of growth, unless they have GIFTED GENETICS. im not saying the guy doesn't but 95% of people dont have GIFTED GENETICS, especially like that.

All in all he has a very nice physique. Years on years of dedication and hard work for sure. But i agree with stones, i dont think i would every wanna b that big.

i'm not trying to start an argument either

no, i do not have bloodwork on the guy, and i do not know him personally.  but we know nothing about the guy......his workout schedule, his diet, his age, etc.  wouldn't you think it's fair to give him the benefit of the doubt, since we know nothing about him?

I would like to say that you are giving the benefit of the doubt in the wrong place bro. his physique is outta this world and hard to attain. not many lifting joes can look like that. if it makes you happy ill say the dudes not juicing.. there i dont care if he is or not but you are jumping  to ignorant and confident answers saying he is NOT JUICING fo sho like u know hes not. Im just explaining that yeah if he has all the peices, meaning he lifts right, perfect diet and great genetics ect., sure yeah hes not juicing. but RARELY do you find this. Plus im not saying the dude IS JUICING, but the benefit of the doubt is that he is b/c it is rare to find have all the peices. Its like you telling me you saw a kamoto dragon in your backyard throwing a munch on some lettus and you live  block down from me.. so, just b/c i dont know you, you deserve the benefit of the doubt? no, benefit of the doubt is givin when using common knowledge also. We all share the common knowledge the a physique like that is very hard to obtain, and without enhancers like roids, a physique like that is rare to have.

hahahahaha are you serious?  i'm jumping to ignorant conclusions by STATING MY OPINION!!?!?!?!?!?! really, that's THE funniest thing i've heard all day.  lmfao

he has baby calves too lol

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he has baby calves too lol

hahaha i just noticed that.  he's still a big guy though

I'd say he juices.  Looks too big to me.  Especially the biceps.

how the hell do you guys know if he takes steroids:S