I'd like to get there

Yea IDK either, to me steroids = ronnie coleman, slightly smaller or anything bigger

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

No, I agree with Boomer, he didn't juice. Look at JonB in 5-7 years if he keeps training like he is...he WILL look like that, IMO. Also, I am pretty sure a body like that is attainable. He definitely worked his ass off in the gym to look like that, and he is probably 26-30, so yes, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Novice, there is, gotta believe man.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

I see hope at the end of the tunel

My 5x5s as of November 2nd 2008.
Squat 155lbs
Bench 155lbs
Deadlift 155lbs

Connelly's 5x5s as November 2nd 2008
Bench 115
Squat 145
Deadlift 165

Andy11's 5x5 as November 2nd 2008
Bench 150
Squat 150
Deadlift 175

ORIGINAL: HEARTS



He's pretty big but it's not like he's freaky big.

I don't know if I'm seein this right but it looks like he has four abs on the right side and 3 on the left.

That's what it looks like to me.

Old Lifts: Bench-335, Squat-455, Deadlift-495
New lifts: Bench-375, Squat-545, Deadlift- 585

Strongest 17year old on DBB

Some people just have great genetics. Its hard to tell with this guy

17 years old
180 pounds

dirty bulk= fail
X-repper forever

On the race to 190 and 17 inch arms

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

No, I agree with Boomer, he didn't juice. Look at JonB in 5-7 years if he keeps training like he is...he WILL look like that, IMO. Also, I am pretty sure a body like that is attainable. He definitely worked his ass off in the gym to look like that, and he is probably 26-30, so yes, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Novice, there is, gotta believe man.

do you know anything about him?

You have no idea how long he trained, how can you say that.  Without information, you cannot say theres a better chance he is natural, you simply have no effing clue and nothing to back it up.  JonB could very well look like that in years to come, but that guy is not JonB and you have no idea how long this guy has trained and cant make that kind of statement.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

ORIGINAL: RollingStone

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

No, I agree with Boomer, he didn't juice. Look at JonB in 5-7 years if he keeps training like he is...he WILL look like that, IMO. Also, I am pretty sure a body like that is attainable. He definitely worked his ass off in the gym to look like that, and he is probably 26-30, so yes, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Novice, there is, gotta believe man.

do you know anything about him?

You have no idea how long he trained, how can you say that.  Without information, you cannot say theres a better chance he is natural, you simply have no effing clue and nothing to back it up.  JonB could very well look like that in years to come, but that guy is not JonB and you have no idea how long this guy has trained and cant make that kind of statement.

you don;t have to get so anal about things.  he was simply making a statement and providing an example. 

crying and screaming like that isn't going to change the fact that he could be right, or he could be wrong

Rolling-Who cummed in your cereal today??? Honestly.

I was stating an opinion that JonB is a beast right now and has a very good chance of looking like that guy from my perspective. So chill out man. What who just said has nothing to do with this thread, but my opinion.

Don't miss your training for the French Bicycling Team, we wouldn't want that.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

ORIGINAL: Daniel265

the only part about that guy that would make me think he was juiceing is his abs. they stick out so far its rediculous!!

but im not saying that physique is not attainable

 
all that is is training abs with weights, and having low bf

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

ORIGINAL: NBSFighter

I'd say he juices.  Looks too big to me.  Especially the biceps.

 
hes not even that big dude

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

ORIGINAL: RollingStone

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

No, I agree with Boomer, he didn't juice. Look at JonB in 5-7 years if he keeps training like he is...he WILL look like that, IMO. Also, I am pretty sure a body like that is attainable. He definitely worked his ass off in the gym to look like that, and he is probably 26-30, so yes, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Novice, there is, gotta believe man.

do you know anything about him?

You have no idea how long he trained, how can you say that.  Without information, you cannot say theres a better chance he is natural, you simply have no effing clue and nothing to back it up.  JonB could very well look like that in years to come, but that guy is not JonB and you have no idea how long this guy has trained and cant make that kind of statement.

 
i agree with both of you, he isnt that big, its very attainable, id hope to be there soon lol, but on the other side of things, we have no clue how long he's trained to get where he is, for all we know he could of gotten like that in a year, 3yrs,5yrs...theres no telling..
 
OP said he'd like to get there, ive noticed that alot of these threads turn into a steroid debate, do i look like i take steroids?? my friends have always made that reference to me cause of the progress ive made in so little amount of time..
 
lifting hard, eating good, sleeping good, and having really good genetics can get you anywhere...can u believe i used to weight 130 lbs?
 
if i can get up to 205lbs within months, with half assed training and a ****ty diet
where do u think someone can get with good consistent training(not getting lazy and taking months off), nice round diet, good supplements...etc
 
building muscle is not rocket science

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

No, I agree with Boomer, he didn't juice. Look at JonB in 5-7 years if he keeps training like he is...he WILL look like that, IMO. Also, I am pretty sure a body like that is attainable. He definitely worked his ass off in the gym to look like that, and he is probably 26-30, so yes, you should give him the benefit of the doubt.

EDIT: Novice, there is, gotta believe man.

 
i appreciate that man

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf 

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

Rolling-Who cummed in your cereal today??? Honestly.

I was stating an opinion that JonB is a beast right now and has a very good chance of looking like that guy from my perspective. So chill out man. What who just said has nothing to do with this thread, but my opinion.

Don't miss your training for the French Bicycling Team, we wouldn't want that.

im sorry but it seems you just took a shot at my physique...which would simply be hilarious coming from you.


Im being anal?  You guys are making assumptions about a guy you know nothing about.  I can look at a guy with big arms and be like, yea he doesnt do any isolation for his biceps...I have nothing to base what i just said on and it would sound ridiculous.

working on explosive phase
vertical: 35
weight: 206

Big 3: 300/440/515

Strength and growth come only through continuous effort and struggle.

Lol..I just read this whole arguement I dont know why. What a waste of time...we have no idea about the guy. Anways I bet if he saw there is a whole debate on him he would be flattered.

ORIGINAL: RollingStone

ORIGINAL: MaverickKeepsitReal

Rolling-Who cummed in your cereal today??? Honestly.

I was stating an opinion that JonB is a beast right now and has a very good chance of looking like that guy from my perspective. So chill out man. What who just said has nothing to do with this thread, but my opinion.

Don't miss your training for the French Bicycling Team, we wouldn't want that.

im sorry but it seems you just took a shot at my physique...which would simply be hilarious coming from you.


Im being anal?  You guys are making assumptions about a guy you know nothing about.  I can look at a guy with big arms and be like, yea he doesnt do any isolation for his biceps...I have nothing to base what i just said on and it would sound ridiculous.

if someone says something about a guy, and his opinions differ from yours, you don't have to jump all over them like they just had sex with your mother and sister and killed your father.  it's going to be okay. 

just because he doesn't think he juices, and you think he does;  that is not beginning grounds for an outburst like that. 

and who cares if someone criticizes your physique?  what if i did?  it doesn't matter. as long as you're happy, who cares?

going by that poster behind him i got this website:
http://www.musclemania.com/

and they are drug free look at the drug testing section

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

going by that poster behind him i got this website:
http://www.musclemania.com/

and they are drug free look at the drug testing section

wow. NICE FIND. excellent

hahahahahaha so this just kind of proves that you should'nt judge a book by it's cover. 

i realize most of you probably made the "he juices" out of jealousy......but just don't judge before you know

Who cares?

I can't understand it when people say, "I want to look like this guy."  Then what?  You maintain for the rest of your life?  That won't work, you might maintain for a little while, but then it'll get monotonous and you'll end up stopping.

Personally BBNovice I think you're selling yourself short wanting to look like that.  You could get that physique within 10 years I think, and then what?  You'll be under 30 years old, with a great physique, and if you maintain it's eventually going to go to waste.

You know what my goal physique is?  240 pounds competition weight.  It's a goal I won't hit for a long time, if ever, and that doesn't matter to me because there's always something to progress towards, so working out doesn't become a chore.

Don't sell yourself short.

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

ORIGINAL: Yet

Who cares?

I can't understand it when people say, "I want to look like this guy."  Then what?  You maintain for the rest of your life?  That won't work, you might maintain for a little while, but then it'll get monotonous and you'll end up stopping.

Personally BBNovice I think you're selling yourself short wanting to look like that.  You could get that physique within 10 years I think, and then what?  You'll be under 30 years old, with a great physique, and if you maintain it's eventually going to go to waste.

You know what my goal physique is?  240 pounds competition weight.  It's a goal I won't hit for a long time, if ever, and that doesn't matter to me because there's always something to progress towards, so working out doesn't become a chore.

Don't sell yourself short.

i disagree with almost everything you just said.

if you only want something to progress towards, and you tell yourself you'll never make it, isn't your goal just to be a failure? 

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

wow. NICE FIND. excellent

hahahahahaha so this just kind of proves that you should'nt judge a book by it's cover. 

i realize most of you probably made the "he juices" out of jealousy......but just don't judge before you know

omfg you think just because you get drug tested that you can't use??  It's called cycling.  I don't wanna try to prove anything in this thread, but that's just ignorant.

so you are saying everyone of those big guys on that site is cycling?  All of the ones who are proud to say lifetime natural bodybuilder?

I'm not saying anything, and I really don't wanna debate who uses and who doesn't.  It's stupid.  All i'm saying is that passing a drug test proves nothing.

ORIGINAL: NBSFighter

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

wow. NICE FIND. excellent

hahahahahaha so this just kind of proves that you should'nt judge a book by it's cover. 

i realize most of you probably made the "he juices" out of jealousy......but just don't judge before you know

omfg you think just because you get drug tested that you can't use??  It's called cycling.  I don't wanna try to prove anything in this thread, but that's just ignorant.

there's a certain period of time where  you won't get caught; yes.  but after a little while, you start losing your gains, and look horrible.  you can even have the cochlear fluids in your ears **** up so you can no longer keep your balance and walk straight.  i know guys who have to go to the doctor twice a week to get shots just so they can stand up straight.

to me, once you become fully immersed in steroid use, you can't live without it.

Well, here's his website right here http://www.ulissesjr.com/ In his bio it says he weighs 210lbs during the off-season and 195lbs for contest. It didn't really say anything whether he's natural or not, but you could always go to his myspace and ask him  Anyways I should be able to get where he's at in the next year or so, but my ultimate goal is be about 10lba heavier than he is.

Rolling, I was making a joke man...

Your physique is amazing bro, I already told you that a few times. I was just offended how you attacked my post man. Nothing personal.

Name:Corey 
Age:18
Supplements: Whey, Creatine, Multi Vit, Fish Oil
Weight:182 Height:5'8
Bench:245
Squat:305
DeadLift:275

that dudes body is def attainable....JONB will be there in a yr or 2 tops, and so will i (similar size and stuff check my last posts i put up pics-#2 is my fav)

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

ORIGINAL: Yet

Who cares?

I can't understand it when people say, "I want to look like this guy."  Then what?  You maintain for the rest of your life?  That won't work, you might maintain for a little while, but then it'll get monotonous and you'll end up stopping.

Personally BBNovice I think you're selling yourself short wanting to look like that.  You could get that physique within 10 years I think, and then what?  You'll be under 30 years old, with a great physique, and if you maintain it's eventually going to go to waste.

You know what my goal physique is?  240 pounds competition weight.  It's a goal I won't hit for a long time, if ever, and that doesn't matter to me because there's always something to progress towards, so working out doesn't become a chore.

Don't sell yourself short.

i disagree with almost everything you just said.

if you only want something to progress towards, and you tell yourself you'll never make it, isn't your goal just to be a failure? 

I'm not telling myself I can't make it.  I don't set myself up for failure.  The point is to have a goal that you can hit, but it's going to take such a long time that if you stop for a little while, you might not hit it, so it keeps you going.

President of the Emancipation Detoxification. DBB's oldest forum group, punching baby seals since 2/12/08

OMFG
 
chek out the natural bodybuilding champion of 2007
 
IN THE OFFICIAL COMPEITION THEY ARE TESTED REGULARLY NOT THIS BULL**** COMP U JUST POSTED
 
the champ is way smaller than this guy and IMO this guy is defo on the roids he doesn't look to old
 
anyway with regards to the argument which i have taken interest in :( i have to say i totally agree with everything rolling has said

ORIGINAL: Yet

ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

ORIGINAL: Yet

Who cares?

I can't understand it when people say, "I want to look like this guy."  Then what?  You maintain for the rest of your life?  That won't work, you might maintain for a little while, but then it'll get monotonous and you'll end up stopping.

Personally BBNovice I think you're selling yourself short wanting to look like that.  You could get that physique within 10 years I think, and then what?  You'll be under 30 years old, with a great physique, and if you maintain it's eventually going to go to waste.

You know what my goal physique is?  240 pounds competition weight.  It's a goal I won't hit for a long time, if ever, and that doesn't matter to me because there's always something to progress towards, so working out doesn't become a chore.

Don't sell yourself short.

i disagree with almost everything you just said.

if you only want something to progress towards, and you tell yourself you'll never make it, isn't your goal just to be a failure? 

I'm not telling myself I can't make it.  I don't set myself up for failure.  The point is to have a goal that you can hit, but it's going to take such a long time that if you stop for a little while, you might not hit it, so it keeps you going.

i see. that's alittle more clear

i like to set a large goal, then set smaller goals that i can obtain easier and quicker.

I'll use running a marathon as an example.  My ultimate goal is to complete the 26 mile (or however long a marathon is) race.  But i set my goals like "ok, lets make it to mile 3".  After i make it to mile 3, i say "okay, let's get to mile 6 now" and give everything i have to get there and so on and so on.  That's what works best for me.

i ran a marathon before, it was in hawaii...26 miles is no joke..almost died..lol

update! 8/3/09

maxes and goals
bench - need to remax
goal bench - 405

squat - need to remax
goal squat - 500

deadlift - need to remax
goal deadlift - 500
weight -174.8 8%bf