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How long does it take - 9/24/2006 7:06:50 PM
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snipDip
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Hi, just one question i just started working out
and no access to any gym all i have is just
to 11lbs bumb bells.i am 190lbs and i am working
on my arms trying to build them up but i also want
to lose belly fat as well i have been working on that to
i also been doing push-up 25 reps,so my question is
how long would this program take to build up
my arms and chest if i do this every day and night.
i have heard of those nutrition drinks like slim fast
are they any good.
Thanks
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[Deleted] - 9/25/2006 7:07:14 AM
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RE: How long does it take - 9/25/2006 8:29:34 AM
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snipDip
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builtdarntough thanks for the help really appreciated
i am only doing this at my doctors request. he recommended
that i lose weight and get some exercise to build up mussles,
there is a place in my city were i can buy those weights
i will check it out.
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RE: How long does it take - 9/26/2006 3:56:52 PM
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jkoelmel
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Go to Wal-Mart or somewhere and buy higher weight dumbells every month
.....or just buy a weight set and keep it for a while instead of new DB every month...just look for one with a barbell and two dumbbell bars...that should suffice...if you can look into a small bench...that should do everything except legs, but if your lucky you can find a cheap bench with a leg attachment for added enjoyment...best of luck
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 4:35:41 AM
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CrashCoder
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To add size to your muscle, you must overload it. That means you have to go for higher weights – if possible with each workout. 25 reps will just fatigue the muscle and fatigue doesn’t build muscle – overload builds muscle. Go for a weight that you can lift at least 4 times but no more than 6 times. If you can’t lift the weight four times, then it’s too heavy. If you can lift it seven times, it’s too light.
If I were you, I’d really try to get into a gym and forget about biceps for some time. Focus on compound lifts, like squat and deadlift. With them, you’ll get bigger arms, bigger legs, a bigger butt, … In short, everything gets bigger except for the … aw, you know!
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 5:51:20 AM
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jkoelmel
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To add size to your muscle, you must overload it. That means you have to go for higher weights – if possible with each workout. 25 reps will just fatigue the muscle and fatigue doesn’t build muscle – overload builds muscle. Go for a weight that you can lift at least 4 times but no more than 6 times. If you can’t lift the weight four times, then it’s too heavy. If you can lift it seven times, it’s too light.
what you are referring to is power training, if he is going for size, anywhere from 8-15 reps will work too...training like a power lifter doesnt mean he's going to get bigger; stronger, no doubt, but not necessarily bigger...its good to do a combination of both strength and endurance training...in order to hit all the muscle fiber types...
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 6:00:54 AM
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CrashCoder
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I was actually referring to Max-OT, which is for bodybuilding and works quite well for me in terms of size. You'd be surprised how cool power lifters can look once they get ripped. Some of them even participate in bodybuilding competitions. But anyway, lifting a 11-lb dumbbell for the rest of your life won't add much if any, I guess.
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 7:53:17 AM
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Soul
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And make sure you scroll down to Danmirage's (personal trainer for twenty years, remember) response to it, especially point number four.
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 8:07:33 AM
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Good argument, Soul. But I still think that if I have to choose between 12 reps and 6 reps, I'll go for six. It's not that I'm parrotting stuff here, it's my own experience. The Max-OT stuff has brought me cool results, and the saying is: if it ain't broke, don't fix it.
I won't argue with anybody because something that works well for me might well be a load of b... for someone else. But it's always good to get different views, isn't it?
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 8:33:37 AM
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Soul
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I agree, yes. I've tried Max-OT and liked it (I don't think I've given it enough time, but over the eight weeks I've been on it I've noticed a great increase in strength and an okay one in size). I went on a long tangent about why I'm switching to 9-12 reps down in the critique my training forum the other day, but long story short, my rotator cuff sucks and I want to lift lighter weight because of it :P
Either way, we're both saying at least one thing the same: those 11 pound dumbbells aren't going to get a whole lot of mass on anyone's frame. Although there are guidlines, different people respond differently to different rep ranges, weights, and exercises. Max-OT was a great place for me to start; it taught me a lot about bodybuilding and about how to make the most out of my time in the gym. It's worth a look, no doubt. Here's a link to the PDF, it's a great read.
http://www.discussbodybuilding.com/downloads/Max-OT.zip
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RE: How long does it take - 10/1/2006 1:19:49 PM
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snipDip
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Well i did go to walmart i bought just the barbell i will add onto it later
starting with 10lbs then working my way up. i am useing 10lbs now
working 25reps each if i can,working on my chest and arms.
i do see some results in my arms not to much in my abs
with my abs i have been doing all most like a sit-up but with
knees bent upward and arms in the back of my head then do about
5 minutes of that i can really feel my abs working my secound week on this
i have all ready lost 5lbs. as for the Cardiovasc thing i have been working
on that to.still to early to see the full results on my body workout
but it is a start i have also been running up and down two flights
of stairs also for a good leg and cardio workout. taking two days
off during the weeks
to follow so thumbs up for the first and second week
i have also been laying off all that junk food to.
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