How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years

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How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Friday, June 17, 2005 9:24 PM ( #1 )
How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years At 16, like most teens, I had a dream.  And that dream was not to by small and skinny anymore.  I had seen plenty of bodybuilding magazines and people in really awesome shape and I decided that I wanted that.  Not to be the next Arnold but to have some size and be generally fit and strong.  But at 16, the first thing that I did was grab an old Sear weight set and just started doing stuff.  Just think about it.
 
What person just starts down the right path to anything?  Hardly any of us.  The first time we are introduced to structured learning is in kindergarten.  That type of learning follows us into grade school, middle school, high school and maybe college.  So why is it that so many beginners just “do stuff?”  It’s not like we are born with the instincts to even tie shoes without somebody showing us the way.
 
At 16, I didn’t know what to do.  I started reading this book by Bob Paris, and some Muscle and Fitness issues.  But I knew even then it wasn’t natural and that I would never take any drugs to propel myself to what I wanted.  Those books had some good stuff in them but it wasn’t exactly written for me as a beginner.  I almost felt like in order to be in shape and to be big, you just had to be that way naturally.  I’ll be you can guess what happened next…
 
I did some more stuff.  No structure.  In fact, up until I was 27 years old, I basically did what all beginners do.  Just stuff.  Maybe a heavy bench session here and there, just shooting for whatever reps I could get.  No idea what I had to previously.  No structured training program and no idea of nutrition other then it’s common sense not to eat candy all day and I needed to eat or eat less if I wanted to make changes.  Needless to say…
 
Nothing changed.  That’s right.  Imagine, yourself doing something since you were 16 years old and at age 27 you were “fit” but not really at your goal, not really that big and not anywhere close to what you wanted to accomplish.  And yet guys, who worked out maybe 2 years, were exactly where you wanted to be.  Moreover… you saw plenty of people cheating their way to the top.  I couldn’t even figure out a good diet let along contemplate anything more complex.
 
Make no mistake… I was frustrated.  And the reason I was frustrated for all those years was that I never started out in kindergarten and worked my way up.  My point is…
 
If people take classes to learn another language, and go to school to learn a trade, and pay an instructor to help them drive, what makes working out and obtaining a goal any different?  Let me break some news to you.
 
Eating healthy is NOT common sense.  Working out is NOT common sense. 
 
That’s right.  I said it.  The reason I was frustrated was mainly that I thought you just hit the weights and got bigger.  Trust me, I had some really intense weight sessions.  And yet I might have worked at 110% and blew it the minute I left the gym.
 
Okay, so there’s the beginner who has never worked out but learns about it, gets the nutrition down, understands that, finds a training program and starts out.  In 2 years, this person is advanced.
 
On the other hand, there’s me, who after 16 years was physically not a beginner but mentally still was a beginner.
 
Can you see my frustration?
 
But my problem is your opportunity.
 
You see, if you knew what I know now, and trust me when I say there’s no big secrets, you’d be a beginner for a lot less time.  You’d have to work hard but not quite as hard and you’d know why you made some changes and why you didn’t.
 
Here’s more,…
 
My mom used to cook dinners every night.  I wanted to get bigger.  I just ate enough so  I wasn’t hungry and that was it.  Now that’s fine if I wanted to maintain, but here I had an idea and image in my head and couldn’t get to it.  I had no idea what nutrition really was all about.  I didn’t know how much I should even eat to get bigger? 
 
That’s like getting a destination, no GPS, no map and no directions.  How long would it take you to find that town if you just got in the car and started driving?  After 16 years you might get lucky and find it or you might just be chasing the Road to El Dorado.
 
It’s simple really.  Everybody wants to sell you a secret.  But here’s the real secret and here’s how I stumbled on it.
 
I found a workout program called Max-OT.  Finally, a very structured workout program.  What to do, when to do it and how.  And it told me to lift heavy.  It also gave me a tiny insight into eating right.  But not enough.  Somehow I got lucky and found a Burn the Fat, Feed the Muscle book.  I printed it out.  And that was it.
 
That was my ah-ha moment.
 
The secret was KNOWLEDGE.
 
Let me repeat that.
 
KNOWLEDGE
 
Nothing I’ve run across today is a big secret.  It’s not like nobody is telling anybody about this.  What the problem seems to be is that beginners don’t know where to start and they don’t think they need any help.  So at some point they get very frustrated and end up quitting or losing sight.  Not to mention the sheer wealth of information on the Internet in an unstructured manner is mind boggling.  So what if all this information is on a bodybuilding forum.  In 34,567 posts, with 9,567 members.  Let me take the hex number and make it readable to the human eye.
 
If I took 12 million pages of information, some horrible, some bad, some good and some true gold and threw it all over the house, took a blower to it and scattered every paper all over, that is what you have right now.
 
It would take you 2 years or more to go thru each page to find out what information was good, how many others confirmed that to be true and then you’d have to make your own table of contents and put it all together.
 
Just because it’s out there doesn’t mean much if it’s not good, it’s not structured and it’s not written for you.
 
Here’s what I’ve learned in just 2 years:
 
  • What I need to eat in order to reach my goals and how to figure that out easily and quickly with just basic high school math. 
  • How I need to train and how less is actually more. 
  • Why being controlled and having excellent form gives me 50% more gains then the guy/gal next to me who drops the weight on the bottom half of the movement. 
  • How I can measure my progress easily and quickly and best of all… privately.  So that I know where I’ve been and how close I am to getting there. 
  • That not all carbs are the same 
  • There’s such a thing as good fats and by taking a fat pill I can lose weight  
The truth is…
 
I tried tons of workout programs.  But my main failure wasn’t necessarily the routines I was doing but the lack of knowledge I had.  Can you imagine what it would be like to take 16 years to learn how to tie your shoe?  Well that’s what I felt.  I wanted something so bad that I tried it all.
 
Heck, I even skipped dinners (skipping meals is a no-no) on weekends because I was too busy and tried protein shakes that didn’t mix well with water to put on weight.
 
So it all adds up to this…
 
I was a beginner for roughly 16 years.  And while not physically a beginner I didn’t know what the heck I was doing.  Reading magazines by companies with an agenda is a horrible way to figure it out.  And reading books by professionals who took paths and risk I would never take is also a waste of time.
 
Which is why I’m writing.
 
I’ve finally figured it out.  And I know I’m not alone because I run a bodybuilding forum, and a fitness site and I get 5-10 e-mails or posts a day with people just like me.  Who want something and have no idea how to get there.  I know they will try everything and many of them will quit.  And a few will go on to struggle for years until they finally realize the secret to getting this dream is understanding the nutrition, the training and the supplements.
 
Trust me, nobody wants to be a beginner for 16 years.

That's why I wrote my own Beginner's Guide to Fitness and Bodybuilding




Marc at 16
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Marc at 32
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Friday, June 24, 2005 9:07 AM ( #2 )
Marc:  You are a Hemingway stuck in a 32 year-old body.  You write with feeling and conviction.  You run a great forum and we are grateful.  Your book has merit, and with a little "creative marketing," it could be very successful.  As you suggest, it is a topic that enters the minds of most young people who are trying to compete with or just fit in with their peers.  Let me know how I can help. 
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Friday, June 24, 2005 8:44 PM ( #3 )
Thanks Scott.

The best thing you can do is keep reading, participate and Tell a Friend
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Sunday, June 26, 2005 7:17 AM ( #4 )
Marc, your passion for the sport and your eagerness to help people will get you where you want to be.  It's been obvious that you want to break into the bodybuilding service world for quite awhile (let me know if I'm wrong!)

You have an excellent start, and as I've said before, you can write and spell and have proper grammar, etc.. Thank God! Much too rare in a lot of materials that I read.  Being professional in every way will set you above the crowd--Venuto is an excellent model (no pun intended!).  My advice is find your voice (which I think you just about have), be yourself, produce the highest quality you can, charge reasonably, and keep your friendly demeanor.

I would also encourage you to buck a trend that I see all the time which I find irritating.  And that's the constant reducing straw men to ash.  There must be an outline out there for how to write an advert for a fitness product:  1.  State problem to interest customer; 2.  Either foreshadow a great result, or say great result; 3. Say that there is a lot of junk out there (straw man set up); 4.  Because of the junk, customer has not made progress (light match); 5.  But my product is superior and will get you to accomplish your goals (smouldering embers to ash).  (oh yeah, then offer a "reduced" price for a certain period, which changes every time you visit the website.  No, I can't see through that (that was sarcasm!)).  Creativity will get you everywhere, and in the end, a lot farther.  Yeah, it's a hell of a lot harder.  But working harder and smarter is how to set yourself above the rest.

Even Jeremy Markum (whose body I admire) is now giving links to other fitness sites on his site, and then giving his opinion of them.  The negative opinions get him nowhere with me.  If you're going to put a link up, make it one worth my time.

Also please avoid some of the goofiness that's out there.  Kacper Postawski who portrays himself as a "sleep expert" but really has no such professional qualifications has good information in his product, but he drives me nuts.  He "interviewed" Venuto, but he talked more than Tom did.  It was always about Kacper (but Venuto was all class).  He has also made appeals in some of his email that are distasteful--e.g., "buy my product so my fiancee and I can have the wedding of our dreams that we planned without planning financially for."  His emails about "caring" about us are mushy.  ugh!  My impression of him is that he's just a kid. 

Find a smart, creative critic and bounce everything off of them.  Your wife.  Your kid(s). 

Just my unsolicited advice and observations.  Thanks for letting me get some of this stuff off my chest.
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Wednesday, June 29, 2005 2:42 PM ( #5 )
Good read! 

I learned a lot of things off of this site, and your advice is something that I followed, along with stuff about Max-OT.  I just used the common sense approach:  high calorie diet of healthy foods, structured weight program, heavy compound exercises, proper form, and CONSISTENCY.  so far I've put on 27lbs of mass (still got my abs) and I feel a lot better about myself.  Thanks to your advice I'm on my way to the perfect physique. 

In december I'm posting a follow-up thread on my progress the last year or so, can't wait till then. 
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Wednesday, September 21, 2005 11:38 PM ( #6 )
holy crap thats you at 16? you already look like you are 25 or older there....I'm 18 and I look way younger lol
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Wednesday, September 28, 2005 7:06 PM ( #7 )
You just described me exactly when I first started lifting. Good read. And nice legs, you've got some serious mass.
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RE: How One Person, Namely Me, Could Be a Beginner for 16 Years - Thursday, August 24, 2006 3:46 PM ( #8 )
Marc you are absoltly right about Knowledge. That is the true key, most people in there first 1-2 year will take supps such as creiten or glutimen and a bunch of other stuff not know that there only 3% the 100%. I was in a very similar place when i first started lifting at 15 thankfully i had some structure, but thoses workouts were much too long some toping out at 3 hours. I was harming myself more then i was helping myself for almost 1 1/2 year till i was lucky enought to come across an artical about overtraining, and my ntrition was lacking for almost 2 years. Once i started reading i came to the conclusion that i had to stop all training and just learn for a while. i came home from school almost every day for about  months and just read articles about training but morst of the reading was about nutrition. during the last of my 2 months of my 4 month quest i came across this site, and it was very helpful to me. So i just wanted to say thanks, for creating this site, as i end my first week of training equipped with the knowledge to help me succeed at 17 years old.

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