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Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 8:28:24 AM   
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I have been working out for about 4 years with a few short breaks here and there of 1-2 months and I would start over. I am an ectomorph and have seen some improvement over the years but no where near the size I'd like to be. The thing that prohibits me, I'm sure it is the fact that I have smoked for 18 years. I hate the fact that I smoke and have tried to quit and failed time after time. I love working out and challenging myself each day but it seems like I am defeating the purpose if I can't quit smoking. I am a lot stronger than I was when I first started (bench max - 95 pounds then, 245 now) but no real size. I am cut very well but between a high metabolism and probably poor to fair eating habits my weight (207 last checked) can drop 10 pounds in 30 days if I don't work out. Smile Any advice? Any supplements that will help me kick this habit. I feel terrible when I don't work out both mentally and physically and I get depressed when I am working out and still smoking. Smile
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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 9:26:33 AM   
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While I feel for you, there's no supplement that is going to help with this problem.

It's going to come from:

1) You just making the change
2) Having a support group who is in the same boat and close by to assist when necessary

Pills, powders and such won't do much for you considering the whole aspect of quitting smoking is such a mentally challenging trial. The purpose of such support groups is to help you collectively gain strength mentally until you can quit and not start up again on your own.

Once you are ready to actually make that change in your life, you will know, and you will seek out others to help you or you'll cold turkey the habit totally. Now that is hard and usually people who cold turkey were told by a DR to quit or face some serious consequences.

In your position, you could look to the Patch as well as a smoker's group. Maybe in a year or so, you'd be able to kick the habit.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 9:57:00 AM   
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No supplements, but talk to your doctor, the antidepressent Wellbutrin can help. It's sold under the name Zyban for that purpose.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is. My mother finally quit smoking after 45 years when she had an asthma attack left her barely able to breathe for about 20 minutes. Cancer didn't do it, but that did, she was so scared she hasn't smoked since.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 10:00:17 AM   
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Yeah, I have probably heard those same words 100 times if I have heard them once. I know there isn't a miracle pill but I was just reaching out there hoping, ya know...

Everytime I read or someone tells me that it's going to be up to me to accept that challenge and meet it head on and don't look back, it makes me wonder if I am going to fail again which leads to me thinking well why bother working out if you aren't going to quit smoking. But somehow I end up back in the gym 5:30 A.M. 4 mornings out of a week. I think I am as addicted to working out as I am to smoking cigarettes.

Is there a natural way to cleanse my cardio vascular system?

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 10:05:39 AM   
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That's just it. I would never want it to take a physical trauma for me to quit. I'm more so a closet smoker (nicotine only for the record) and don't like for people to see me smoking because other than that I'd say I look pretty healthy just not as built as I know I could be.

There have been 4 or 5 week staunches where I didn't smoke and it was almost like I could feel my muscles filling with fluid and getting tight after the first week with no cigs. Do you think there is something to good circulation and vascular structure that relates to muscle growth and developement? Smile

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 10:07:58 AM   
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Your system will cleanse itself if you stop adding smoke to it, there's no "magic cleansing supplement" that can compensate for smoking.

I wish there was an easy answer. Accroding to Ray Charles, quitting smoking was harder than giving up heroin. But he did do it, and so can you.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 11:20:08 AM   
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Thanks for the encouragement. I will give it another try here soon maybe an increase in cardio would help as well. Can I do that and not have to worry about losing muscle?

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 12:31:24 PM   
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I used to smoke for a year and I quit like a month ago. Really what got to me was a girl saying how nasty it is. Then every time I enhaled I could like feel it messing me up. Which made it easy for me to stop it. By smoking I used to get high and smoke blunts. I did it like 4 times a week then its kept going down like 3 the next then 2 to 1 time a week. I have to admit I do it still but its like twice a week which is a blunt getting high I stoped completly.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 1:10:04 PM   
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Just don't smoke while on the treadmill.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 2/1/2005 1:15:02 PM   
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Have you tried the patches? they do work for some. And, here's a radical treatment: I know a few people who quit after hypnosis. The thought of smoking became repugnant after that suggestion was implanted into their phyche. One way to wean yourself off of cigarettes is to gradually cut the number you smoke each hour, then each day, then each month, then nevermore. I know it's tough, but It's a choice no one can make for you. Just the fact you are asking for suggestions is a great step. Good Hunting!

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 11/13/2005 12:02:53 PM   
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No supplements, but talk to your doctor, the antidepressent Wellbutrin can help. It's sold under the name Zyban for that purpose.

Nicotine is one of the most addictive substances there is. My mother finally quit smoking after 45 years when she had an asthma attack left her barely able to breathe for about 20 minutes. Cancer didn't do it, but that did, she was so scared she hasn't smoked since.


That is how I was able to quit smoking after 2 packs a day and 22 years of smoking. Worked really well for me, but you still have to want to quit for it to work. WILL POWER! Think of how such a stupid habit controls your life! Smoking controls everything you do everyday.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 11/29/2005 3:30:22 PM   
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wellbutrin, didnt work for me, nothing really has, I have cut back alot though, by doin things like, not allowin myself to smoke in my car and such things, drinking has also been hard for me to drink, I drank everyday for 1 1/2 years, now I cut it down to just friday and saturdays, and instead of drinkin a 12 pack, ill try to have only 6 a nite, Its tough, once yer addicted to summtin, takes alot of will power and some help from above. I probally only smoke bout 3-5 cigs a day now, but when I drank its a pack a nite, I hope to quit all that sh*t soon, Im tierd of it having me by the balls

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 12/23/2005 3:14:06 AM   
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I was able to quit after 20+ years of smoking using the nicotrol inhaler http://www.nicotrol.com.  I was able to use the inhaler as much as I needed it when I needed it the most and not use it when I didn't.  A large part of quitting is the desire to quit and just as much of it is wanting to remain a quitter.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 12/23/2005 8:17:05 AM   
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JR hit it on the head, you have to want to quit and have the will power.

I started smoking at 18 (3-1/2 packs of Pall Mall (reds)) for 16 years. There were times when playing ball I would get a base hit, run to first and then have to have someone run for me. Wow! I quit smoking 09/04/72 at 11:30am. I remember opening a brand new pack (0.47 cents then) had a cigarette and when I put the thing out, I said to myself "That's It" and carried that pack of 19 cigarettes for 3 months before I threw them away, they were hard as a rock. Haven't had a cigarette since and that's 33 years ago.
So, if you want to do it, do it. 

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 12/23/2005 8:55:38 PM   
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My friend said this is what worked for him: "Don't say , I'm going to quit, or I'm quitting.  say I already quit"  Think about the disgusting taste each time you draw a cigarette, it is discouraging... well it worked for him.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 12/25/2005 2:53:38 PM   
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Lats make it short and simple

EAT A PACK OF SIGS!!!!

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 8/30/2006 12:30:57 PM   
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I tried to quit smoking 3 to 4 times a year for 15yrs, and finally made it by doing the following two items without fail.
1. Take your last full ashtray and put it in a small jar. Fill it half full of water, put the lid on tightly and shake well.
Keep this Jar in your back porch, and everytime you feel like a smoke go to the jar and take a big inhale through your nose.
2. Imeadiately go drink two large glasses of water.

The first item will let you have an idea of what you are putting in your lungs, and the second gives you a filling feeling like you did inhale a cigarette.
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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 8/31/2006 8:00:12 PM   
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I quit 5 years ago I went cold turkey it was hard but it is doable I wish you the best

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 9/5/2006 9:18:02 AM   
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At the end of the day, it takes strength. I gave up because i'm driven and it got in the way of my goals in life. You've got to be strong and determined.

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RE: Help a smoker quit!!! Counterproductive! - 9/7/2006 3:06:22 PM   
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I've tried to quit a thousand times in the last 8 years.  I actually quit for good 2 months ago.  I can say that with certainty because my mindset is different.  Every other time I quit, I wasn't fully committed.  I knew it sounded like a good idea, but I didn't have the willingness to go without "no matter what."  I promised my kids I would quit, and that was enough to give me that willingness.  For the 1st time, I don't "want" a cigarette.  I'd rather suffer than break a promise to them, but I don't feel like I'm denying myself. 

My suggestion to you would be to find out what's important to you, and quit for that.  Good Luck!  I know it's not easy.

Also, the Nicotine gum has helped take the edge off so I don't kick the dog as often.

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