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Help With Supplement - 6/5/2006 7:03:18 PM
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UltimateZX
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Well first off, I would like to add that I am new to these forums. Hey guys  Well Im a 15 y/o male soon to be 16 and i read alot about what you guys said on prohormones and such. So my goals are to get more muscle and to overall get bigger, but im looking to get rid of a little of the fat that i have. Money is no issue at the moment and so far, Ive been thinking about just purchasing muscle milk and maybe even consider trying leukic, what do you guys think, or reccomend for me? Thanks alot.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/5/2006 7:11:09 PM
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cpl
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How many calories a day are you getting right now? Do you know how many you need?
If not, check out the top of the nutrition forum for the post about calorie calculators. Use the info there to find out how many calories a day you'll need to grow muscle.
My advice- Get your diet in shape first, work your way to getting that amount of calories in each day- You'll see muscle gains just from that, if your diet's not already at that point.
Worry about supps after you've got your eating habits down.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/6/2006 1:33:32 PM
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UltimateZX
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I used the calculator and based on the Harris-Benedict formula for gaining mass, I need 2587-2700 calories. My bodyfat is estimated to be 11.52 % using the U.S. Navy body fat formula, or 7.69 % using the formula developed by the YMCA. Im looking to make big muscle gains, and im looking to get bigger in terms of mass, although I want to lose a little fat and replace with muscle so I can look cut up  and have that six pack and nice ripped look at a bigger size. Anything at all you guys reccomend? Whether it be supplement or my diet, Im all ears. Thanks again.
PS- Im still thinking about that muscle milk and leukic also through the calculators I found that I need 133 grams of protein in my diet. Im a 5'4 (shortish) male weighing in at 138 lbs.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/6/2006 7:12:15 PM
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UltimateZX
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Bump Before Bed 
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 12:27:00 PM
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UltimateZX
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Still looking to supplement though, still looking into muscle milk, and some protein. What do you guys think?
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 12:49:44 PM
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In order to fit 6 meals into a day, I would literally have to eat every 3 hours.... Anyone care to help me make a list of what to eat when, kind of like a meal/supplement/mrp strategy? Keep in mind that at 15 alot of my day 7:30-3 is spent at school whereas I wake up at 6AM and sleep at around 11PM. Oh and Danmirage thanks alot for the help you've given me so far, it's appreciated
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 1:42:50 PM
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MRP's would be good to take to school in a shaker... you could drink it in between classes. There is a master list of foods to eat in the nutrition forum at the top. Check out the new recipe forum too... there's some great tasting stuff in there. i'd say its about 70% diet 20% training and then 10% supps.... concentrate on the priorities.... diet is the hardest part of bodybuilding.... lifting is the fun part..... supplements just aren't as important but they will help you bust through a plataue (sp?)
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 2:37:32 PM
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at school i just eat my own **** that my dad makes for me in the morning, beef+rice+veggies and teriyaki chicken+rice+broccoli, both taste pretty good, just gets old but best meals at school IMO. Both chicken and beef are lean.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 4:47:10 PM
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UltimateZX
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I better start bringing lunch using those recipies in the forum, school lunch seems to be a calorie bomb mystery. I almost feel like asking a lunch lady for nutrition facts just to see if they scatter in fear. 
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/7/2006 4:55:24 PM
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weston
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ya chool luinhc is crap bring from home io bring 48 ounces of water fruit vegees sandwich (no mayo) and soy nuts you need lots of food especialy when your meals arnt calorie dense
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/8/2006 2:25:25 PM
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UltimateZX
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So should I start bulking up then? I only weigh in at like 138 now. and im at 11% bodyfat by navy standards and 7% by YMCA standards. Still looking to try that muscle milk but now that im looking to bulk up I noticed this http://www.gnc.com/product/index.jsp?productId=2133629&cp&change_search=products&keywords=1850+weight+gainer&y=0&searchId=5647207662&x=0&parentPage=search
its a weight gainer that i can use to stack up those calories, which I can drink during lunch with celery and carrot sticks as well as a chicken sandwhich and then i would need a good MRP to help me to get in 6 meals a day. During school my lunch is about 12:30 so if possible help me to schedule what to take and when. I also hope to get pics up soon so you guys can tell me what I need to work on. Appreciate the good help, keep it up guys
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/11/2006 11:58:28 AM
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if your tryin to get more mass, cytogainer will do the job.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/16/2006 2:52:20 PM
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UltimateZX
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With that meal plan, when would I take cytogainer? also, with those mrp's which one would you say is the best for ME? Please consider that im 15 and I go to school, I cant just whip out a brown lumpy shake and drink it..... Although if its the only way, then I guess I better make those sacrifices...
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/16/2006 3:15:06 PM
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10:00 would be your meal replacement and any other time you absolutely can not get to a meal.
I understand the lumpy shake thing...Recently, I had a period where I would preblend a modified NOW Pro-Gainer shake with a scoop of protein and then drop ice cubes in. I carried that from 8 am until 3 when I drank it. The bottle does sweat..but it was good. I just wrapped it in a little thermal sack that absorbed the moisture and kept it cold....from a camping store.
If you want the mass my friend..you make the sacrifices. Don't even explain it to anyone, just shrug and look at them knowingly with a little smile. Let them wonder. You DO know something special now, you are a part of an elite culture now...
THIS is how we do it! I started before I was 15 and it worked! I was a skinny thing...at first.
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RE: Help With Supplement - 6/16/2006 3:45:16 PM
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UltimateZX
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Wow danmirage, I can really count on you for help! Haha, thanks alot. Got any motivational pictures? I wanna see what I can grow to be hehe, funny that you started at my age. Im looking to work really hard this summer to look good for school (ill still continue bb the whole year though) but its still fun to surprise everyone with the work you did while they couldnt see you, hehe.
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