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:: Help Really Needed :: - 7/25/2006 12:07:24 AM
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Ken
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Basically, I'm 17, 230 lbs., 6'1", my upper arms are 16 in. and my forearms are 14 in., I read as much as I can to have a general knowledge of what I'm doing and how to optimize my workouts as much as possible but I dont seem to be making any 'noticeable' gains in size... however, in the last month my max bench went up 10 lbs. every 2 weeks, then 2 weeks after that my max bench went up 10 lbs. each week, then yesterday my absolute max bench was 250 lbs. and today I benched 260 lbs.... I dont get how my max bench is going up so fast, if it's permanent or luck or something and... I'd like to get sum simple advice about my workout and how to better it, and please keep in mind... all I have to workout with is:
* A crappy bench that doesn't raise or lower with up to 280 lbs. on it
* An EZ curl bar
* Dumbells: a (x1) 25 lb., (x2) 15 lbs., (x2) 10 lbs, and (x2) 2.5 lbs.
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* (x2) Wrist/Ankle weights 10 lbs. each
also... I used to take Creatine from Six Star but that was a month ago and IF I can afford it, and I'm also taking protein from Weider, I usually take 2 scoops of protein as opposed to the 1 scoop recommended on the back and I drink 1 glass before my workouts and 1 after, my workouts consist of being 1 1/2 hours long if I'm just focusing on my benching and getting a little curling in between rests from benching or I'd do my full workout and spend 1 hour on each routine with no set number of reps or sets, I alwayz just stop once I reached complete failure, take a 2 min rest while workin on something else, then repeating the process, and I stay well hydrated and alwayz eat LOTS of meats like Tuna, Beef, Chicken... and for lunches I eat sandwiches made of wheat bread, sliced pickles, cheese, ham, and light mayo, and my breakfast is usually just a bowl of cereal... My workout is this...
* Concentrated Curls
* Flat Benching
* Wrist Curls
* Squats
* Calf Raises
SO IF ANYONE HAS ANY POISITIVE ADVICE THEY CAN GIVE ME TO HELP ME OUT IN ANY WAY, PLEASE DO, I'ma beginner at all this and I'm taking in any advice I possibly can, so PLEASE give me ANY pointers or advice u can, my main goal is overall strength and size and no real focus on getting ripped, just bigger... thanx, peace...
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Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs
Arms: 16 in.
Forearms: 13 in.
Waist: 39 in.
Stomach: 41 in. (inflated)
Thighs: 24 1/2 in.
Calves: 16 1/2 in.
Max 1 Arm Curl: N/A
Max Bench: N/A
C.C.
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/25/2006 2:15:49 AM
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hblank
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You sound fustrated. Hang in there! The best advice is .... keep lifting and eating, this stuff doesn't happen over night. Considering your 6'1" ... your probly not going to worry about size for long.
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height:5'8"
weight:190lbs.
BF:unsure, but the six pack don't show anymore!
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/27/2006 10:31:36 AM
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weston
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do you have an idea how many calories you need for a day? it sounds like you ahve the right types of food but are you keeping a journal? making sure each meal has a complex carb and lean protien source? important thigns to rember, when was the last time you took a week off? changed your routine?
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11 bfp
5"7
15 years old
Current
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5"7
18 years old
"Success is not the result of spontaneous combustion. You must set your self on fire."
"I sought advice and cooperation from all those around me - but not permission."
"This is my body and I can do whatever I want to it. I can push it, study it, tweak it, listen to it. Everybody wants to know what I'm on. What am I on? I'm on my bike, busting my ass 6 hours a day. What are you on?
- Lance Armstrong"
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/29/2006 1:23:21 AM
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Ken
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Yeah, I probly should keep a journal on what I eat, but the problem is I dont have too much option of what to eat, my family is real partial to having out to eat or cooking whatever, so I dont have as much option of what to eat as I'd like, and I dont remember the last time I took a week off, whenever I workout, no more than about 4 hours later I feel like I have more than enough energy to go back at it and push even harder, thaz why my max bench has been going up about 10 pounds a week to 2 weeks, but recently I had a lingering shoulder injury from about a year ago where my shoulder pops out of the socket if I bent it the wrong way or sumtin, and messed up my lower back squating, so other than that I've been wondering if going up 10 pounds ever week to 2 weeks should be sumtin to be concerned of or what, and thanx for all the advice, I really appreciate it, oh and what r complex carbs and what kinds of foods can I find them in???
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Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs
Arms: 16 in.
Forearms: 13 in.
Waist: 39 in.
Stomach: 41 in. (inflated)
Thighs: 24 1/2 in.
Calves: 16 1/2 in.
Max 1 Arm Curl: N/A
Max Bench: N/A
C.C.
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/29/2006 1:33:07 AM
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Ken
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oh and here's a workout I put together, I didnt put the reps and sets cuz in all of my workouts I put on a good heavy amount of weights where it's at least do-able and dont stop till I cant do it at all anymore...
Monday: Workout 1
Tuesday: Workout 2
Wednesday: Workout 1
Thursday: Workout 2
Friday: Workout 1
Saturday: Workout 2
Sunday: Rest
Workout 1:
Flat Benching (Delts, Lats, Triceps)
Bench Dips (Triceps)
Dumbell Kickbacks (Triceps)
Rear Delt Raises (Delts)
Front Barbell Raises (Delts)
Workout 2:
EZ Bar Curls (Biceps)
Calf Pushes (Calves)
Leg Extensions (Quads)
Bent Over Barbell Rows (Lats)
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Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs
Arms: 16 in.
Forearms: 13 in.
Waist: 39 in.
Stomach: 41 in. (inflated)
Thighs: 24 1/2 in.
Calves: 16 1/2 in.
Max 1 Arm Curl: N/A
Max Bench: N/A
C.C.
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/29/2006 4:32:20 AM
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PimpWivGunZ
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Ken mb im wrong if so any 1 correct me...but ur doing the same muscles (workout 1 + 2) 3 times a week...thats over training ?...
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/29/2006 7:53:28 AM
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Lynx100
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Why would you post again after CPL gave you the perfect answer the last time you posted this same question word-for-word.
In terms of advice, you are not going to get too much better on DBB.com than what cpl has to offer you.
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/29/2006 9:46:58 PM
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Ken
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Yeah, when I first posted that I wasnt sure if it worked or sumtin, or what was going on with that so I jus gave it another shot, but yeah, thanx cpl I really appreciate yur advice and information and yur right, I do go for my 1 rep max too much, but thaz only becuz school starts Sept. 5th, and my summer goal was to go from benching 200 to being able to bench 300, and so far I'm up to 265, which kinda confuses me tho becuz I'm being told by everyone to take a rest which I agree with... but becuz of my constant addrenaline all day long and my constant working out everyday all day I've gone up fairly quick, only thing thaz been slowin me down a bit is my shoulder, about a year ago it poped outta the socket when I was punchin my punching bag and swung to hard and fast and barely missed and it keeps wanting to pop out of the socket every once in a while if I bend it the wrong way, I'm jus concerned I'm gunna be benching and it's gunna give and the bar is gunna crush my neck in, but I dont have a spotter cuz hardly any of my friends workout as much as I do, and it's never poped out while benching... BUT IRREGAURDLESS, (or however u spell that), thanx again for everyone's opinions and advice, it's really appreciated
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Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs
Arms: 16 in.
Forearms: 13 in.
Waist: 39 in.
Stomach: 41 in. (inflated)
Thighs: 24 1/2 in.
Calves: 16 1/2 in.
Max 1 Arm Curl: N/A
Max Bench: N/A
C.C.
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/30/2006 1:57:16 AM
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Ken
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Oh and one more thing I was curious about, all these workout plans include rest, which is understandable for most people, but I read that everybodies body is different and responds differently... so, from what I noticed, the harder I worked, with no rests, and no off days, never having a loss of energy or a feeling of fatigue, my max bench went up faster than anyone I've heard of, so... maybe this is only suprising to me but... shouldn't my workouts be longer and more extreme than most peoples workouts considering how my body has been responding to the extensive work I've been putting it thru?????
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Height: 6'1"
Weight: 225 lbs
Arms: 16 in.
Forearms: 13 in.
Waist: 39 in.
Stomach: 41 in. (inflated)
Thighs: 24 1/2 in.
Calves: 16 1/2 in.
Max 1 Arm Curl: N/A
Max Bench: N/A
C.C.
(in reply to Ken)
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RE: :: Help Really Needed :: - 7/30/2006 3:30:40 PM
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scottie
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the reason for the rests is, when you workout, the reason you get bigger is that working out does damage to your muscles, and in turn they repair themselves, allowing you to lift more with less damage if the damage is constant so to do this your muscles need time to heal(repair), usually takes about 24 hours. so a rest between workouts is betetr for your body, and it would probably help out your shoulder.
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Age: 17
Height:5'11
Weight:178lbs
Max Bench:265lbs
13 1/2" unflexed
15 1/2" arms flexed
Goals:
180lbs
Max bench:300 lbs
17"arms
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