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Help Please - 3/24/2005 8:50:58 PM
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Daviden
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Okay, now, even though i've been here for 6 months, I'm going to tell my story. I guess you could call me a nerd, in that I don't play football, or wrestle, or any sport where the coach directly tells you to go to the gym. And you can tell from my sig that I'm a pretty small guy. If I go on vacation and gain 5 lbs, I'll lose it within 3 days so I don't get bigger or smaller. When I first went to my school's weightroom, the coach who ran it asked me "What are you doing here?" and then he was really confused when I said that I wanted to be. I tried a workout for three months and saw 0 results. I don't mean I saw little results, my lifts were exactly the same weight on everything when I started as when i had to stop for winter sports. The only thing I have ever improved was my pull-up and it took 1 year to get 3 pull-ups and another year to get to 15 and another half a year of doing them almost everyday (With breaks for recovery) to get to 21 and I haven't done that many since that one day. To make it worse I live 20 min. from my school, so my parents hassle me about staying after school to be in the weight room. Then I go onto boards like this and there are people saying "i have a 180 lbs bench...I know it isn't alot". I can't do a 70 lbs lift, a 10 rep set of 30 lbs squats and I'm pretty much done for the next 10 minutes for my legs. And everyone on this board is about 2-3 years older than me so, they're always done wiht puberty and have adult bodies.
Wow, I wrote alot.
The point is I need help on everything. I need exercise help, and the while deal. And even though I really want to be able to make some gains and change myself, I'm at the point of quitting because no matter what I try nothing ever changes. And I'm not like one of those guys who decides that he doesn't see results after 1 day, I have been lifting weights for over a year. It's like that really terrible vampire movie where the girl cuts all of her hair off turns around to look in the mirror and it's all back like nothing happened.
< Message edited by Daviden -- 3/24/2005 8:56:44 PM >
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Age: 15
Height: 5'7"
Weight: 130 lbs.
Pull ups: 21
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RE: Help Please - 3/25/2005 9:55:16 AM
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Daviden
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...before I started weight training I was a skinny kid. YOU sound like youre in pretty bad shape.
That's the thing I am also a really skinny kid. And I'm not in terrible shape.
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Personaly I dont think you have it in you from the way you describe yourself.
Way to be encouraging. Of course now I'm not going to stop until I prove you wrong, now.
Also what do you mean by "And you havent even put on your gear dude" That doesn't mean anything in English. Are you saying I'm lifting with no cloths on. And If I don't have my gear on, I'm asking for someone to tell me what that gear is.
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Height: 5'7"
Weight: 130 lbs.
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RE: Help Please - 3/25/2005 2:36:50 PM
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8pack
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Daviden, I have seen your picture before on the Teenage Bulking Competition that you had entered a while ago (you disappeared)
From looking at your picture, your obviously an Ectomorph, it will be a little harder for you to gain some mass but it is not impossible, so dont get your hopes down.
The #1 thing you have to do is : Try thinking positive for a change, I can understand you havent givin up even though your not seeing any results, but do yourself a favor and think of this as your first day of Training Day.
Alright now, after you fix up your mind, go to a Supplement Store and get yourself any Protein Drink that says "100% Isolate Whey" on it somewhere that is good for your budget.
After that join a gym.
Alright, after those step, your ready for everything. Let me make up a routine for you, Im guessing you have some experience in Bodybuilding since you've been into this for about a year so I will make you one that is a little more than a Beginner one.
Here it is.....
Monday- Legs
Squats - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Leg Curls - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Still Leg Dead Lifts - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Standing Calf Raise - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Seated Calf Raise - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Tuesday- Chests and Abs
Flat Bench Press - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Incline Bench Press - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Decline Bench Press - 2 sets for 6-8 reps
Dumbell Bench Press - 2 sets for 6-8 reps
Weighted Crunches - 3 sets for 10 reps
Cable Crunches - 3 sets for 10 reps
Leg Lifts -3 sets for 10 reps
Wednesday- Back and Traps
Bent Over Rows - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Pulls Ups (Weighted) - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Close Grip Pull Downs - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Barbell Shrugs - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Dumbell Shrugs - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Thursday- Shoulders ad Triceps
Dumbell Press - 2 sets for 6-8 reps
Arnold Dumbell Press - 2 sets for 6-8 reps
Lateral Dumbell Raise - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Front Dumbell Raise - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Lying Tricep Press - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Tricep Pushdown - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Seated Tricep Press - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Friday- Biceps and Abs
Barbell Curl - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Alt. Dumbell Curl - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
Hammer Curls - 3 sets for 6-8 reps
And same ab routine as Tuesdays
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Alright if you can follow that program, you will be on the right track, you should take 2 scoops of the protein drink you got after each workout.
You need to calculate your strength and figure out what weight you'll be able to do at least 6 times but no more then 8 reps.
It would be great if you have another friend that is interested in Bodybuilding, what im trying to say is, get yourself a training partner, its much better to have a partner then not to have one
ANOTHER thing that is just as important as lifting is the way you eat, since your an ectomorph you need to eat more then ever, EAT LIKE A PIG. Go to the "Nutrition Forum" and and ask for some help, or someone might help you out here. I myself dont know much about Nutrition. You need to eat like a pig, horse, Fat Joe whatever you wanna call it, just eat about 6 meals a day.
ONe more thing, from seeing your picture! GET A TAN! :)
< Message edited by 8pack -- 3/25/2005 2:42:26 PM >
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RE: Help Please - 3/25/2005 2:41:56 PM
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bklynboy
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good post 8 pack.
listen, if u wanna become stronger then u have to fight a battle. but if u lose confidence in yourself then u r going to lose the war. the first fight is in the mind. i personally think that if u follow a good routine(8 pack's one looks good) then u r going to get stronger. don't worry about it, stay strong mentally and u won half the war already.
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RE: Help Please - 3/26/2005 10:41:47 AM
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Daviden
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Wow, I like the advice 8pack but I never posted my picture, but I'll take the advice any way. And I probably won't join a gym cause the nearest one is a half-hour drive (Except for the one at the church and being jewish that might be a little bit of a challenge) and I can't drive. But still thanks for all the help.
< Message edited by Daviden -- 3/26/2005 10:59:20 AM >
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Height: 5'7"
Weight: 130 lbs.
Pull ups: 21
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RE: Help Please - 3/27/2005 10:28:20 AM
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8pack
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naah, i think daviden will live :)
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RE: Help Please - 3/27/2005 10:33:18 AM
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god hand
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Definetly a race
Wha tha hell thats suppose to mean?
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RE: Help Please - 3/27/2005 10:38:00 AM
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8pack
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lol, i just realized your nick is God Hand
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RE: Help Please - 3/27/2005 10:39:04 AM
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Gun Ryo
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ORIGINAL: god hand
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Definetly a race
Wha tha hell thats suppose to mean?
Jews are a race. Not just a religion.
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Hypnotised to realise that this surprise will end in demise in front of your eyes. Shining with lies you sent your spies, spat your alibies and your words rotted, rotted and attracted flies. Your boy cries but you proceed to fratenise with those baby blue eyes, eyes like the sky you pleaded for ties. Your stomach cries, and you envisionise a plate full of fries. Lord they are hot though, don't touch, I advise. But you are burned, and penalised, of course overdramatise and you get the prize. I am that boy baby girl and now I will end your 9 lives.
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RE: Help Please - 3/27/2005 10:52:16 PM
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Shaneo
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Sorry I couldn't help it, judaism is a religion not a race. It's not white, black, brown, asian and jew.
Anyway I feel for ya, man. I think we have the same body type, it's really hard to get any gain at all. I'm 133 naked one day then 128 the next week then so on and so forth even though I'm eating like a horse . I'm not sure what problem your parents have with you staying at the weight room after school, just let them know its very important to you and if they're giving you a ride home then take the bus or take the bus to the gym, things may look bleak now but in order to suceed at anything you must be comitted.
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RE: Help Please - 3/28/2005 10:19:30 PM
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Pennsylvania Jock
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Daviden. I know how you feel. I'm skinny, too, and I couldn't gain 10lbs if my life depended on it, lol. I just get stronger without gaining much weight.
Do 8pack's routine. It's good. Start off on machines until you get strong enough to use the barbell or dumbbells. The machines will also teach you good form. Take protein and eat like a horse every day. You need to get your mind into lifting, too. You HAVE to believe that you'll get stronger every week. You need to get your mind into lifting. Don't worry about the other guys in the gym. Worry about yourself and what you're lifting. They're older than you and have more experience. Of course they'll be stronger than you.
When you're in the gym, you have to stay focused on lifting. Don't talk about school or girls with anyone. Don't say anything unless you're motivating yourself or asking for a spotter or whatnot. Don't socialize until your workout is complete.
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Age: 16
Height: 6'2"
Weight: 165
Bench: 205
Squat: 365
Deadlift: 385
Total: 955
Goal: 1000 by January of 2006
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