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Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 2:12 AM ( #1 )
Well, here's my problem...

I live in a house with my mom who is alergic to everything but rice... My dad who thinks Atkins is some sort of god.. My brother who thinks fried chicken is a basic food group... and his girlfriend thunder thighs.

I somehow thought that my dad on atkins would be a good thing... you know tonnes of protein around, all the chicken i can eat. Turns out if it doesnt sizzle when you fry it he wont eat it... just as long as theres no sugar added...

So, i've come to the conclusion that I need my own diet... Im totally fine eating the same boring ass **** everyday at timed intervals... but i have no clue what to eat without leaving some huge nutritional gap... Im poor as hell and cant afford a nutritionist to tell me what to eat so Im stuck with you guys... just kidding.

Seriously though... If any of you have a "Solid" bodybuilding diet that i could follow for the next year... or until I modify it for my own needs... please let me know... Or if there are any websites that might help.

Im 6'0 210lbs with a "pudgy" build... Im getting my BMI taken soon

Thanks... Mike
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 8:54 AM ( #2 )
Welcome to DB!

The way you described your situation was hilarious!

Do you have access to $35? That's about the cost of the Burn the Fat book by Tom Venuto. It's a very worth while read. No B.S., 80% of the nutritional foundation is in there. I think it would help you get on track. You can also browse these nutrition forums as people have posted some really good ideas. Calculations and such. Look at the top posts and go from there.

You might check out the recipes section as it's been busy this week with new ideas.

You don't need a nutritionist but you do need to plan out which foods you might want to eat.

Using something like FitDay to track the foods you eat is FREE and will give you a general graphical idea of what you are eating in terms of calories, protein, carbs, sugars, fats and in what proportions. I highly recommend using that website to track food intake so you can adjust the diet.

The nutrition forum should be where you spend most of your time looking. Make sure the settings up top say Display Posts from Last XXX Days is set to something more then 30. Otherwise, you won't see what DB really has to offer.
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 9:50 AM ( #3 )
Your BMI is 28.5 kg/m^2. I assume you mean you're getting your body FAT tested soon :)

I think we all know BMI doesn't mean anything, since it doesn't differentiate between muscle weight or fat weight. Funny how all their studies of who lives longer never seem to look at this difference either. I was at the Dr's office one time, and there was a "healthy weight" chart that said I should weight 165lbs (I am 6' tall). Of course, the chart was also put out by Slim Fast....

A good book will help a lot, though my general rule of thumb is lean meat, lowfat dairy products, fresh fruits and vegetables, whole grains, and anything you can make from the above. I try to avoid anything processed, especially anything deep-fat fried. I find I lose fat when I bring my own lunch to work and cook my own dinner at home instead of eating out, not to mention all the money I save.

There's endless debate about what % of calories should come from fat, protein, and carbs, but personally I think the human body is flexible enough in its metabolism that it doesn't care too much about the exact proportions. Make sure you get pleanty of protein, especially if you're weightlifting, around 200 grams/day seems to be a good estimate if you're working out (which of course you should be ) This is 800 calories worth of food, so on a 2500 calorie diet, it's just under one third of your calories.

I like whole-wheat pasta, it's digested more slowly than the normal refined stuff, and it fills you up faster so you eat less of it. Beans are also a good source of quality carbs, they digest slowly, are high in fiber, and have protein too, though you have to have grains too to get all of the amino acids humans need.

For fats, try to use vegetable oils instead of butter.

You shouldn't have to eat dry chicken breast on brown rice with broccoli every day (though it's a good example of a healthy meal), start with quality food and use your creativity.
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 3:15 PM ( #4 )
Great introduction to your situation! I had to leave my desk so I didn't disturb my peers! When faced with nutrition challenges I believe some of the old timers could make a meal out of simple inexpensive foods. Here's a reciepe for Black Beans and Rice I found tasty. Good Luck! Caribbean Black Beans & Rice
< Message edited by axgar -- 1/9/2004 3:16:14 PM >
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 3:18 PM ( #5 )
Foooooooooooooooooooddddddddddd............... mmmmmmmmmmm

I hope that helps...
< Message edited by Chazz540 -- 1/9/2004 6:18:17 PM >
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 7:53 PM ( #6 )

I think we all know BMI doesn't mean anything, since it doesn't differentiate between muscle weight or fat weight. Funny how all their studies of who lives longer never seem to look at this difference either. I was at the Dr's office one time, and there was a "healthy weight" chart that said I should weight 165lbs (I am 6' tall). Of course, the chart was also put out by Slim Fast....


yeah same here....I think my healthy weight is something like 150 lbs because I'm 5'7". LOL.....I'm 20 lbs over that with just my muscle.

What i don't get is how they establsh these numbers. They haven't been keeping track of how mucha person weighted their whole life for that long, so how can they tell us if an ideal weight is really that ideal for us to live alonger, healthy life? Then again, how many overweight people do you see who are 100 years old? By then all you are is bones.......literally. I think it would be funny to take a picture of Arnold when he is 100 and compare it to a pic of when he was at his peak.
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RE: Help Me!!! - Friday, January 09, 2004 8:21 PM ( #7 )
I think the people who created the whole figuring your body mass index and fat to lean muscle ratio, had a really narrow point of veiw. It just doesn't work for the some odd 6billion people on the planet.
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