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RE: HST Type Routine
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Saturday, April 05, 2008 7:51 PM
I'm gonna start this routine as well. Thanks Smoundzou.
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Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:16 PM
ORIGINAL: kingyoto Does anyone know of a barbell equivilent to lateral raises? I don't have any dumbells. good question.
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Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:26 PM
IMO lateral raises are not necessary... and unless you have acess to a cable machine, i just cant see you doing anything comming close with a barbell... I mean you could try using an easy curl bar...but balance/saftey issues. whats wrong with just sticking to OH presses, bench and rows to help hit the shoulders? ORIGINAL: kingyoto ORIGINAL: kingyoto Does anyone know of a barbell equivilent to lateral raises? I don't have any dumbells. good question.
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RE: HST Type Routine
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Saturday, April 05, 2008 8:51 PM
ORIGINAL: Nm0ney34 IMO lateral raises are not necessary... and unless you have acess to a cable machine, i just cant see you doing anything comming close with a barbell... I mean you could try using an easy curl bar...but balance/saftey issues. whats wrong with just sticking to OH presses, bench and rows to help hit the shoulders? ORIGINAL: kingyoto ORIGINAL: kingyoto Does anyone know of a barbell equivilent to lateral raises? I don't have any dumbells. good question. Nothing is wrong with OH presses thats curently what I do, its just that this particular routine envolves them so I was wondering if there was an exercise that has the same basic motion.
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Saturday, April 05, 2008 10:03 PM
If you can get to a cable machine that can adjust you could pull off the same basic motion...other than that I cant think of anything that involves a barbell. you can always try to fill burlap sacks/buckets/something you can get a grip on and lift, with sand/rocks...try to guesstimate the weight or use a scale and perform latteral raises like that. unless you want to sub in another exercise you could try to make it work like that.
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Sunday, April 06, 2008 4:13 AM
that's a great suggestions... it' doesn't take much weight to work the rear delts.. If you don't have DB's.. simply use a 10lbs plate in each hand..
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Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:06 PM
ok. so now that I have my RM's I've been actually laying the footwork for the workout. I get that an HST routine is based upon adding weight to EACH workout. For an exercise like OH press though, its 3 times a week. so for weeks 1-2 that means it has to be done 6 times total. my 15RM for OHpress is 65 @ 70% thats 45. the smallest increment you can add to an olympic bar (for me at least ) is 5 lbs (2.25 each side). Adding 5lbs each workout would push me well beyond 65lbs by the end of week 2. This is what i figured i;d do: week 1: 45, 45, 50 week 2: 50, 55, 55. So I'm progressing each week, and ALMOST each workout. is that acceptable?
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Sunday, April 06, 2008 8:39 PM
I see... thanks for the help guys.
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Monday, April 07, 2008 5:31 AM
ORIGINAL: Red PittBull Yeah, STICKY STICKY STICKY STICKY Yup
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Monday, April 07, 2008 9:55 AM
Would HST be a good routine to do while cutting? I wouldn't think so b/c you are trying to cut calories and not necessarily grow, but I'm just curious b/c I am about to start my cutting cycle in about 3 weeks and HST looks very intriguing.
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Monday, April 07, 2008 10:09 AM
ORIGINAL: smoundzou HST Type Routine: Keep in mind the objective on an HST routine is not to gain strength but to gain mass. The good side is, if done properly you will gain strength as well. One key factor for making an HST routine successful is to add weight to each workout. It doesn’t matter if it’s only 1 lb or 5lbs, as long as you’re progressing forward and adding weight. If near the end of a cycle you are unable to add weight, continue with the same weight until you are able to. Cycle Length: 8 Weeks Set and Rep Ranges: Week 1&2: 2X15 Week 3-4: 3X10 Week 5: 2X10 Week 6-7: 5X5 Week 8: 3X5 Weight Ranges for reps and sets: Weeks 1&2, Start at 70% of your 15 Rep Max for each major compound exercise Weeks 3-5: Start at 75% of your 10 Rep Max for each major compound exercise Weeks 6-8: start out at 80% of your 5 Rep Max for each major compound exercise Failure: Never go to failure. If you find yourself starting to stall at the end of a mini cycle, stop, rest 15-20 seconds and finish out the remaining reps. Your goal for the end of each cycle should be to get in each set and finish out the called for reps but not able to complete another with good form or assistance. If you can, the weight is too low.. If you can’t, you started with too much weight. Schedule: Follow the HST structure on all exercises unless other wise noted after the exercise. On some of the Isolation exercises you will either do 2x8-12 or 3X8-12 Monday: Full Body Low Back Squats, ATG Flat Bench Standing OH Press BB Rows Pull-ups…………………2x8-12 Skull Crushers…………………2x8-12 Wednesday: Full Body Deadlifts with Shrug Incline Bench Standing OH Press Side Raises…………………2x8-12 BB Rows Pull-ups…………………3x8-12 Friday: Lower Body Low Back Squats Front Squats……………………2X8-10 45 Deg. Leg Press SLDL…………………3x8-12 Calf Raises………………………….1x20 1x15 1x12 INCREASING WEIGHT EACH SET Saturday: Upper Body Flat Bench Incline DB Flyes……………………2x8-12 Standing OH Press Bent over, Rear DB Laterals. ……………….2x8-12 BB Rows Pull-ups…………………3x8-12 Incline DB curls……………….2x8-12 Skull Crushers…………………2x8-12 Smound-Looks great! I have a couple questions, if you dont mind helping me out. 1.) When you say add weight to each workout, do you mean.........a)Add weight to each set until you reach your max weight on the last set b)add weight each day...ie: on wednesday, more weight than monday or c)add weight each week? ...or all of the above? 2)Do i have this correct? So, for instance on week 1, if i can do 15 reps of 125 for my max on bench, then i should do 70 percent of that for my first set, then 100percent of that for my second set? 3)what is a "mini cycle" as opposed to a "cycle" thanks, Jack
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Monday, April 07, 2008 11:00 AM
ORIGINAL: irishwhiteboy Smound-Looks great! I have a couple questions, if you dont mind helping me out. 1.) When you say add weight to each workout, do you mean.........a)Add weight to each set until you reach your max weight on the last set b)add weight each day...ie: on wednesday, more weight than monday or c)add weight each week? ...or all of the above? 2)Do i have this correct? So, for instance on week 1, if i can do 15 reps of 125 for my max on bench, then i should do 70 percent of that for my first set, then 100percent of that for my second set? 3)what is a "mini cycle" as opposed to a "cycle" thanks, Jack 1.) You add weight every lifting session. meaning... lets say you start on monday at 125 lbs on the bench press. Do 2 sets and move on and finish your workout. ON WEDNESDAY, when you go to do benchpress, add 10 lbs and do the SAME AMOUNT OF REPS and SETS. Do this for every exercise in your workout session if you can. 2.) no... don't do 100% on your second set. how would you do a 3rd and fourth set. there's more than just 2 days of training. technically, there's 6 days per each rep cycle 2 weeks of 15 reps 2 weeks of 10 reps 2 weeks of 5-6 reps and if you work out every other day.. that would give you about 6 sessions per the 2 week period
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RE: HST Type Routine
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Sunday, April 13, 2008 11:26 AM
Just completed my first workout. Kicked my arse. What a difference going from Max-ot to this HST type of workout. I like it alot.
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Sunday, April 13, 2008 1:28 PM
ORIGINAL: the Danimal Would HST be a good routine to do while cutting? I wouldn't think so b/c you are trying to cut calories and not necessarily grow, but I'm just curious b/c I am about to start my cutting cycle in about 3 weeks and HST looks very intriguing. yes.. it's a great routine if you have a somewhat High BF% and want to cut. me and my workout partner both did 6 weeks of HST. He started at 205 lbs (he watched his diet and ate less and trained hard) He lost almost 30 lbs in 6 weeks ME = 181 start of HST. after 6 weeks = 196 lbs. My workout partner pretty much lifts the same weight as I do, but 10 lbs less on most exercises.
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Sunday, April 13, 2008 2:10 PM
If you do the workouts right.. take the time to calculate out your lifts.. the results can be truly amazing, especially if you've been doing some type of split routine.. I did 4 solid cycles of HST and had to take a break and do something else.. not that it wasn't effective.. it was just kicking my ass so bad.. but I'm getting ready to start another cycle and hopefully run HST thought the end of the year..
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