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RE: Guerilla Cardio
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Friday, October 22, 2004 8:43 AM
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RE: Guerilla Cardio
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Tuesday, November 09, 2004 11:11 AM
Hey all, I see that this thread has been idle for a bit, but I'll ask my question anyway. I have been doing 40-50 minutes cardio (at around 75% MHR) on a Nordic Track cross country ski machine for a few months after losing 15 lbs with no exercise and stalling. The NT helped me lose 15lbs more. Problem is that it's getting mind numbingly boring and 50 minutes is way too long and I do it in the morning before eating and work, and it's hard not to be late for work. So, I've switched to Guerilla Cardio. The first time I did the all-out sprints but took longer rest intervals than prescribed, and that was not smart. I definately strained some muscles or soft tissue by doing all out sprints. So, I've resorted to just running fast (at a rate that I would not be able to maintain for an extended period of time - that's probably about 90% MHR for me b/c I am a novice) for the 20 sec part, then walking for 10 secs, then repeating for a total of 8 cycles, as directed. It's pretty grueling for me but I'm not an endurance guy (that's why I love weighlifting and Max-OT!) and it's my hope that I will work up to full sprints at some point. So far, so good. My question is: "Do you think I really have to be all-out sprinting to get the benefit that GC advocates claim (i.e. to burn bodyfat), or is it really just a matter of getting the heart rate high enough (say ~90%)???". Like I said, it's grueling, but it's short, and when I'm done with the 4 minute wrap-up jog at around 70-75% MHR, I just walk for a few minutes, then stretch, and I feel awesome, but not dead. That's why I wonder if I am still gettinmg the full effect, even though I'm not in an all-out sprint. Finally, what would be the draw back of doing it 4 times a week? I'm on an 1800 cal/day high protein diet, eating at least 10g of complete protein every 3-4 hours, getting a total of 1g protein per pound of bodyweight per day, and doing Max-OT lifting to preserve muscle, and gain a little if I can while the primary goal is to lose as much body fat as possible. Any thoughts would be appreciated...THANKS!!! -Macka
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RE: Guerrilla Cardio
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Tuesday, November 09, 2004 8:06 PM
Do you think I really have to be all-out sprinting to get the benefit that GC advocates claim No. But it should be enough to get you going. And after you get more in cardio shape, it probably will mean an all out sprint. Work up to it. But as you say, 90% of your max.. is pretty damn intense. Drawback to doing that 4x a week would burn more calories which is bad on a bulk and fine on a cut. So it depends on your goals. Are you trying to gain weight? Or lose the fat? Or just maintain? Since you goal seems to be maintain muscle and maybe gain a little but mostly lose fat, I'd say do the Guerrilla cardio 4x a week. Short intense sessions like that are best for your goals.
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RE: Guerrilla Cardio
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Friday, November 12, 2004 8:10 AM
ORIGINAL: mda1125 Do you think I really have to be all-out sprinting to get the benefit that GC advocates claim No. But it should be enough to get you going. And after you get more in cardio shape, it probably will mean an all out sprint. Work up to it. But as you say, 90% of your max.. is pretty damn intense. Drawback to doing that 4x a week would burn more calories which is bad on a bulk and fine on a cut. So it depends on your goals. Are you trying to gain weight? Or lose the fat? Or just maintain? Since you goal seems to be maintain muscle and maybe gain a little but mostly lose fat, I'd say do the Guerrilla cardio 4x a week. Short intense sessions like that are best for your goals. Thanks. That's what I thought. I was doing the NT almost every day (5 days per week on average) and I haven't lost a pound in the 2 weeks since I stopped. I started the GC workout after a almost a full week off cardio (because I hurt something donig my 1st attempt at GC) and seeing no results. It feels awesome though. Maybe I'll try 5 per week and see if I can get the furnace to burn some fat again.
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RE: Guerilla Cardio
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Saturday, January 08, 2005 3:05 PM
Guerilla cardio is very difficult for even very athletic persons and should be gradually worked up to. You should make your own adjustments and continue challenging yourself. Anyone can benefit from it because it can be molded to fit each individual's aptitude.
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Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Wednesday, January 19, 2005 7:22 PM
Hey all... Been doing guerilla cardio now for several months. I started outdoors but now it's nasty here in Boston so I'm on the treadmill. Great feature of the treadmill is speed control. Overall a great program! Now, to my question: In GC, the work/rest ratio is basically 3:1, i.e. sprint 20 secs, jog or walk for 10 sec. Well, I've recently read an interval training article, which suggest other ratios, such as 1:3. For example, 20 sec sprint would be followed by 90 sec rest (http://www.johnberardi.com/articles/training/gettinginshape.htm) and "the intensity should be more than double that of your recovery intensity for 60s bouts and more than triple for 30s bouts". Other places I have read suggest 1:1. It's interesting to me that these two suggestions are so opposite: 1:3 vs 3:1. Any experience, suggestions???? Thanks, Macka
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Thursday, January 20, 2005 5:07 AM
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 8:48 AM
can anyone copy and paste the program (Guerilla Cardio) my adobe isnt working right now or just send to recycled_yahoo@hotmail.com
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 9:00 AM
I'll email it to you. FAR too long and big to post in here.
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 5:20 PM
Ty, mda just did my version of it can't keep up  but after i finished i feel so much better a rewarding feeling
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Sunday, January 30, 2005 6:18 PM
Just keep at it. Over time, you will get better. And when you can keep up, think of the incredible shape you will be in! Don't worry about finishing it or meeting every challenge. Just take it slow and steady. You will improve with each workout.
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Friday, February 25, 2005 6:51 PM
Just started it! I kept my sprints between 80-90% I'd say but I made it all the way through. My muscles were sore later just like after lifting. I'm guessing that's a good thing. I've been running and biking for the last 6 weeks or so, didn't jump right into the guerrilla. I'll let you know about the results.
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Friday, March 04, 2005 7:53 PM
will doing this along with max ot be detrimental? i'm currently doing the max ot program and would like to start this, but thats a really intense program. what do you think? if i do it i'd modify the max program so i worked out on mon, wed, and fri, and did this on tues, thurs, and saturday.
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RE: Guerilla Cardio/HIIT interval times?
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Thursday, March 10, 2005 5:46 AM
I'm sorry, whats max ot?
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Thursday, March 10, 2005 9:05 PM
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