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Good Schedule? - Friday, July 04, 2008 4:39 PM ( #1 )
Day 1 - Chest & Triceps


Flat Barbell Bench Press 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Incline Dumbbell Press 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Cable Crossovers 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Close-Grip Bench Press 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Skullcrushers 3 sets of 8-10 reps

Day 2 - Off

Day 3 - Shoulders


Military Press 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Dumbbell Lateral Raise 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Cable Lateral Raise 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Bent-Over Lateral Raise 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Dumbbell Shrugs 3 sets of 8-10 reps

Day 4 - Off

Day 5 - Back


Chinups 3 sets to failure
Widegrip Lat Pulldown 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Bent-Over Barbell Row 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Low Pulley Row 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Deadlifts 3 sets of 8-10 reps

Day 6 - Off

Day 7 - Legs & Biceps

Barbell Squats 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Leg Press 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Stiff-legged Deadlift 3 sets 8-10 reps
Lying Leg Curls 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Standing Calf Raise 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Barbell Curls 3 sets of 8-10 reps

Any comments or advice welcome and would be appreciated!
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RE: Good Schedule? - Friday, July 04, 2008 4:44 PM ( #2 )
i personally dont think you need a whole day just for shoulders, the front delts will get worked fine with incline bench, rear delts with rows and side delts with an overhead press of any kind (put this with chest).  The trap work can be done with back then too.

On your back day do deadlifts first and alternate between vertical pull movements and horizontal pull movements.  So do pull ups then, bent over rows, then lat pull down, then low pulley rows.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Friday, July 04, 2008 9:31 PM ( #3 )
Dude you defanetly need a shoulder/trap day. Inclines do work front delts but not to there full potential. No chest or back excercises really work the side delts either. Just put shoulder day later in the week so you dont overtrain your front delts from chest day
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RE: Good Schedule? - Saturday, July 05, 2008 4:51 AM ( #4 )

ORIGINAL: Beefcake

Dude you defanetly need a shoulder/trap day. Inclines do work front delts but not to there full potential. No chest or back excercises really work the side delts either. Just put shoulder day later in the week so you dont overtrain your front delts from chest day


then why do full body splits work so well?
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RE: Good Schedule? - Saturday, July 05, 2008 5:34 AM ( #5 )
Yeah, listen to soccer, all though we may argue in the out of bounds forums from time to time, his training advice is beastly.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Saturday, July 05, 2008 8:59 AM ( #6 )

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

i personally dont think you need a whole day just for shoulders, the front delts will get worked fine with incline bench, rear delts with rows and side delts with an overhead press of any kind (put this with chest).  The trap work can be done with back then too.

On your back day do deadlifts first and alternate between vertical pull movements and horizontal pull movements.  So do pull ups then, bent over rows, then lat pull down, then low pulley rows.

 
 
So..
 
 
Day 5 - Back

Deadlifts 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Pull ups 3 sets to failure
Bent-Over Barbell Row 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Widegrip Lat Pulldown 3 sets of 8-10 reps
Low Pulley Row 3 sets of 8-10 reps

Do you guys think 8-10 reps is a little high? Im trying to build mass, 8-10 seems a little high.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:04 AM ( #7 )
generally speaking mass range is 8-12 reps, power is 1-8 and endurance is 15+
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RE: Good Schedule? - Saturday, July 05, 2008 9:07 AM ( #8 )
Really? hmm.. do you know any mass building arm workouts? Like Maverick said Hammer c's help alot.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 11:47 AM ( #9 )

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000


ORIGINAL: Beefcake

Dude you defanetly need a shoulder/trap day. Inclines do work front delts but not to there full potential. No chest or back excercises really work the side delts either. Just put shoulder day later in the week so you dont overtrain your front delts from chest day


then why do full body splits work so well?

 
I'm just saying that if he's doing a split like this then it won't hurt to have a shoulder day. If he's on a busy schedule then ya its fine on chest day. Personaly I feel shoulders to be one of the most imprtant and overlooked muscle group. If he has the time to train them on their own day...then why not? That's all I'm sayin
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:48 PM ( #10 )

ORIGINAL: Beefcake


ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000


ORIGINAL: Beefcake

Dude you defanetly need a shoulder/trap day. Inclines do work front delts but not to there full potential. No chest or back excercises really work the side delts either. Just put shoulder day later in the week so you dont overtrain your front delts from chest day


then why do full body splits work so well?


I'm just saying that if he's doing a split like this then it won't hurt to have a shoulder day. If he's on a busy schedule then ya its fine on chest day. Personaly I feel shoulders to be one of the most imprtant and overlooked muscle group. If he has the time to train them on their own day...then why not? That's all I'm sayin

 
i agree, when i did a 4 day split i had a shoulder/trap day and had great results. however, i dont think he needs 5 different exercises for shoulders.  i would just do military press, lateral raises and shrugs for the shoulder day.  very short day lol, you could throw abs in on that day if you like.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 1:50 PM ( #11 )
yea but if you are only doing 3-4 exercises on a shoulder day, thats a waste of time and just taking more time before you can work your other muscles again.
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:16 PM ( #12 )
why are you doing anything with legs?  legs need their own day
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:18 PM ( #13 )

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why are you doing anything with legs?  legs need their own day


they do have their own day he just threw in one exercise for bi's
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 2:20 PM ( #14 )

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ORIGINAL: boomersooner1331

why are you doing anything with legs?  legs need their own day


they do have their own day he just threw in one exercise for bi's


haha i guess i should read all the workouts before i comment
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:31 PM ( #15 )

ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

yea but if you are only doing 3-4 exercises on a shoulder day, thats a waste of time and just taking more time before you can work your other muscles again.

 
I'm not really getting what you're saying, if he trains everything once a week then it shouldn't matter. My last routine was almost identical as his and I couldn't imagine not having a shoulder day. Since the workout didn't take to long I trained my forearms on that day too
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:59 PM ( #16 )

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ORIGINAL: Soccerking3000

yea but if you are only doing 3-4 exercises on a shoulder day, thats a waste of time and just taking more time before you can work your other muscles again.


I'm not really getting what you're saying, if he trains everything once a week then it shouldn't matter. My last routine was almost identical as his and I couldn't imagine not having a shoulder day. Since the workout didn't take to long I trained my forearms on that day too


i like to combine shoulder day with back day
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RE: Good Schedule? - Sunday, July 06, 2008 5:59 PM ( #17 )
training a muscle group once a week is not optimal, and more frequent training is better, it takes 48 hours for a muslce to heal enough for another workout so by throwing in another day of rest really is just hampering gains you could be having

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