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Get the pump - 2/23/2005 1:00:54 PM   
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I was not very sure where to post this but it is very good information. I have been subscribing to many of the top supplement brand websites. They will send you emails now and then letting you know what is new and lots of other good information. I have even been getting free samples of supplements and book. I wanted to tell you about this very nice book I received from muscletech. It is called Get the Pump and I got it for free. The nice thing about this book is that it is good quality meaning they put god time into this and it will stay with you for a long time. It is about 105 pages long and covers anything from what pump is, how it builds muscles, how it feeds your muscles, eating and a couple of good exercises. Another nice thing is that when I first seen it I was thinking it would be all about muscletech products and why they are so good. Maybe 2 pages in the whole book is like that. Everything else in good information. Now this is free and I would look into seeing if you can get this book sent out to you through muscletechs web sight. there is very good pictures and diagrams that explain the science behind building muscles. Check it out.
and i just checked this out. go to http://www.getthepump.com/
all info it there

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RE: Get the pump - 2/25/2005 10:47:39 AM   
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Okay,

I did the survey and got access to the eBook along with the workouts.

The first thing that comes to my mind is:

I don't care what Jay, or Chris or all these guys do for their workouts. But that is partially becuase I'm 32, done a lot of independent research and I'm not impressed with muscle heads anymore.

So having a picture of Chris on the front, doing a flex when I know that I'm not going to look like that without some anabolic aid, does not inspire me.

However, it's the words that matter, not my opinions on who motivates me.

I do plan on reading it over though.

And I did sign-up for the newsletters. The more info the better I say!

Thank you klocinski for the link. It was beneficial and I had not seen that before.

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RE: Get the pump - 2/25/2005 1:03:14 PM   
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glad to hep. now that i got all my questions out there maybe i can start contributing in helping alther out also.

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Bench during training 210
leg press - 340
deadlift - 225

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RE: Get the pump - 3/4/2005 11:44:22 AM   
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I got this same book in the mail not to sure how I got on the mailing list but what ever. You know I took the time to read the book and unless your a 250+ anabolic animal and just enjoy blowing your money this really isn't going to help your everyday bodybuilder. I really just felt like they were promoting "PumpTech".
And If you looked at the meals and supplements these guys took at the end of the book only one of them takes the PumpTech supplement anyway.

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RE: Get the pump - 6/11/2005 12:43:55 PM   
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 I just received my copy.  It was a glossy, glitzy, well produced full color booklet called 'Get the Pump'.

For anybody who hasnt seen it, it contains 100 pages containing articles from some of the more well-known names in the industry, and pictures of some of the best known IFBB pros, demonstrating the key points contained in the articles..

I like looking at well pumped up physiques as much as the next guy. And the book shows plenty of muscle.. Loads of it.

But.. Im not real happy about the book in general. Why? Cause, underneath the allure of pumped muscles and huge, ripped pros, is a very slick marketing campaign, designed, primarily, to sell a product called Pump-Tech.

But what bothers me the most is that the whole focus of every article, and the book in general, which presumably is being read mostly by the Natural body builders who are buying the supplements BB.com sells, is a training method that I believe can only be used effectively by steroid pumping pros. Why is that? Two reasons.. One is the main premise, and its the name of the sixth chapter: 'TRAIN FOR THE MAXIMUM PUMP'. And the second is the training methods recommended. Here is chapter 6's recommended Back routine:

Seated Cable Row:
4 sets of 12-15 reps

Lat Pulldowns:
4 sets of 15 reps

Bent over dumbell rows:
4 sets of 12 reps

One arm standing cable rows:
3 sets of 12-15 reps

Deadlifts:
2 sets of 10-12 reps

Hyperextentions:
2 sets of 15-20 reps.

Total back sets: 19 sets. Avg of around 12 reps per set.

So, whats wrong with that? Frankly I dont think its possible for most natural bodybuilders to do this many reps for this many sets, for each body part, without seriously overtraining. The splits look something like this:
Mon: Legs; Tues: Chest; Wed: Off; Thurs: Back; Fri: Shoulders; Sat: Off; Sun: Arms.

And then, theres the premise: Train for the Maximum Pump. Whats wrong with that? The book stipulates, using pseudo scientific jargon, that the greater the pump you get during your workout, the faster your muscles will grow. why? Because the pump means more blood is circulating nutrients through your muscles.. But, I think its been well demonstrated that the pump, aside from feeling good, and looking good for the short duration it lasts during and just after the workout, has nothing to do with enduring muscle size and strength.. Nothing. For bb.com to be telling all its subscribers that training explicitly so as to maximize the pump is the best way to maximize muscle size on an enduring basis I think borders on the irresponsible. Then, theres the matter of the set and rep counts. Do we really think natural lifters can accomodate that much volume without overtraining? Havent we gotten beyond all this hype? Havent we been shown that essentially, less is more, and that overtraining is probably the single biggest detriment to growing muscle for natural body builders? How many of us have found that we really didnt start to see meaningful results until we forced ourselves to adopt a lower volume, higher intensity approach?

Why is BB.com preaching a training methodolgy that is aimed at Pro bodybuilders? Is the idea that, the higher the volume the trainee uses, the lesser the results, and hence, the more supplements he'll want to buy? I can understand why this emphasis on the pump is there: because it augments the marketing of that Pump-Tech product. And, because so many products are out there which hype the pump, this book just plays right into the hype. But why this training method? Maybe its because the more rundown and overtrained the lifter becomes, the more he'll be seeking out relief via supplements?

Im just stating my opinions here.. Im sure there are still natural lifters out there who actually believe and adhere to this type of approach, failing to draw the distinction between natural and drug induced gains and training methods... But for those who have studied the materials, its a little disconcerting to see a company we patronize take this approach

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RE: Get the pump - 8/21/2005 3:40:14 PM   
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Paul e...

gah damn.
Well written.

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RE: Get the pump - 3/10/2008 5:01:11 PM   
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Absolutely rigth Paul E. Why would Muscletech just hand out free stuff? they wouldn't, unless it was going to help them out i.e. a brilliant marketing scam. Don't get me wrong its great information, but I'd rather not waste my time reading about something i can only accomplish with anabolic aid.

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RE: Get the pump - 3/29/2008 10:20:16 PM   
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The link doesn't work.

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