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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Saturday, July 18, 2009 9:55 PM ( #61 )
Hahaha dtes,

If you want to Carb up effectively, smoke weed, eat. Repeat as necessary HAHAHA.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Sunday, July 19, 2009 8:31 AM ( #62 )
Ketosis has got to wait one more day, deep fried golden chicken is not something I pass up on any diet.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Monday, July 20, 2009 5:37 AM ( #63 )
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I'm supposed to eat like 700 - 800 grams of carbs in a 24 - 30 hr period.  Damn, that's a lot of friggin carbs!!!


Honestly I'm starting that tomorrow night and I cannot wait. When you haven't had any for like 6 days you will be cumming in your pants at the thought.


Yeah, until you try it.  The refeed day sucks.  Youll gain 10-15 pounds and feel really sluggish.  By the end of the day Im so excited to get back to the fats.

And youll see 700-800 is not hard at all, especially in that many hours.  I used to not watch my carb up and Id easily go through 3000g in 10 hours.  Carbs dont fill you like fats and the more you eat the hungrier you seem to get.


Damn you gain that much weight in just one single day???? How long does it take to come back off?


a week...


So by the end of the no carb week, you lose the 10-15 lbs., then you have the carb-up day and gain it all back again.  All-in-all, you're still losing about 1 lb/week if you're cutting I'm guessing.  This diet sounds like it does some crazy things to your body with all that weight fluctuation.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Monday, July 20, 2009 10:26 AM ( #64 )
the reason you gain so much on the carb load is because for  every 1 gram of carbs you eat pulls in 3g of water.so 1g carbs acutally = 4g total in weight
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Monday, July 20, 2009 10:48 AM ( #65 )
I see said the blind man as he picked up his hammer and saw.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Monday, July 20, 2009 11:05 AM ( #66 )
Egg - 3 large - 240Calories
Butter - 1Tbs - 100 calories
Chicken - 1/4th cup - 50 calories
3.0G carbs - 28.5G fat  - 29.1G protein
390calories

Chicken - 4oz/1/2 cup - 100 calories
Olive oil - 1Tbs - 120 calories
Almonds - 23 - 161 caloires
4.6G carbs - 29.4g fat - 27.2g protein
381calories

I made out some meal cards based on 1900 calories, 5 meals a day. This keeps me from wasting hours in the kitchen trying to figure out how much fat or protein I need, just use a card and you get the proper ratios. I have had about 20 grams of carbs today, but a lot of it is fiber.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:23 PM ( #67 )
Delicious recipe for keto

1 big package of sugar-free choclate pudding
4 scoops of whey protein cholclate flavor works best
3 cups whole milk


mix till smooth then refrigerate holy **** its so good and it helps with cravings just be careful how much you eat in one eating cause theres 40g carbs total in the whole thing roughly.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Tuesday, July 21, 2009 10:35 PM ( #68 )
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Delicious recipe for keto

1 big package of sugar-free choclate pudding
4 scoops of whey protein cholclate flavor works best
3 cups whole milk


mix till smooth then refrigerate holy **** its so good and it helps with cravings just be careful how much you eat in one eating cause theres 40g carbs total in the whole thing roughly.

 
lol what??  You dont drink any milk on keto.

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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:15 AM ( #69 )
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Delicious recipe for keto

1 big package of sugar-free choclate pudding
4 scoops of whey protein cholclate flavor works best
3 cups whole milk


mix till smooth then refrigerate holy **** its so good and it helps with cravings just be careful how much you eat in one eating cause theres 40g carbs total in the whole thing roughly.

 
lol what??  You dont drink any milk on keto.



Yea that looks like it would screw you up, can't you just sort your cravings out on the carb-load?
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 5:19 AM ( #70 )
I was in the bed last night drooling for a heaping bowl of pasta...
Supposedly day 3 has the worst of the cravings and hunger, not sure if that is yesterday or today.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 7:28 AM ( #71 )
haha why not milk 3 cups of milk over 2-3 days is to much u think?

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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 8:53 AM ( #72 )
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haha why not milk 3 cups of milk over 2-3 days is to much u think?
 

Well I suppose not, but it doesn't leave much room for your <30g carbs over the rest of the day. Just wait for the carb up and eat it all. Also the 30g carbs your eating would be better as low GI carbs.


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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:02 AM ( #73 )
lol, the highest macronutrient in milk is carbs.  Youre not trying to eat any carbs.  On a perfect day, you would get absolutely 0, but it just doesnt work that way because there are trace amounts in things.  The highest carb food you can really get away with is nuts, and you cant eat too many of them.  I thought it was pretty clear that milk was a no go lol.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 9:28 AM ( #74 )
i mean i was never drinking it only using it to make that pudding **** haha ive mostly been eating eggs, tuna, chicken, nuts, EVOO, whey, and beef, and veggies of course
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 10:59 AM ( #75 )
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I eat whats here, so its different everyday but an average might go something like this.

6 eggs butter and cheese
1.5 scoops whey protein
tuna with mayo cheese and hot sauce
turkey breast or chicken with mayo cheese and hot sauce
ground beef with cheese
bacon eggs and cheese
2tbs peanut butter

15-20g fish oil

I would do more olive oil but we cant really afford it.

Alot of people would get bored on my diet but I dont like spending time preparing food Id rather just get it done.

I just aim to get around 35-40g protein a meal and only slightly more grams fat. 


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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 11:05 AM ( #76 )
That's the point, keto diet is HIGH FAT!!!!

It probably goes against everything you have ever thought you knew about nutrition.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:23 PM ( #77 )
As long as there's no carbs to go along with it then it's okay.

Yes, I agree RS has the ability to stay very lean easier than others, but that's another story.  Eating "fat dipped in fat" is the whole point of keto.  That is actually a good thing because it causes the body to use fat for energy due to the absence of carbs. 

I personally haven't tried this diet so I can't speak from experience, but I know for a fact that many people have had success on it.  Just go to BB.com and look at all the before/after pictures of people that cut from keto.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 12:29 PM ( #78 )
The keto, the atkins diet, most cutting diets use fat as their source of energy because fat doesn't convert as strongly to glucose as carbohydrates, you burn fat quicker than glucose, fat is the most important nutrient in the production of testosterone that aids in production of contractile proteins like myosin and actin, fats leave you feeling more full, plenty of reasons.

It is the top cutting diet, no doubt.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 1:43 PM ( #79 )
K im going to start going over board with fat. Just to prove this diet wrong. I am going to do everything right high protein/fat content food, but just lay on the fat...

Let the games begin!
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:03 PM ( #80 )
I think Rolling Stone and the others that have tried it with good results have already proven the diet "right".
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 2:07 PM ( #81 )
My last post was basically messing around. I know it works, in fact, its worked for me. Its such a silly idea on the surface.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:20 PM ( #82 )
That fit day is pretty nifty software, just started using it today.
Here is a total break down of everything I have eaten today, at least what I recall, I might have got one of my meal cards mixed up with either eggs or almonds, whatever. Still nailed my macros and calories within a few grams of what I was shooting for.

http://img33.imageshack.us/img33/1882/diet.jpg

Anything with - Hostile, is something I custom added, due to the stock label not being very accurate to what I was eating.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 3:49 PM ( #83 )
Im almost into my fourth week on CKD. If you think fats upon fats upon fats are that filling, think again. By the middle of the second week, I was craving sugar/bread so badly it wasnt even funny. No matter how much fat you eat, you always feel kinda malnourished and still hungry (not necessarily craving) on this diet. Fat just doesnt "hit the spot" like carbs do, plain and simple.

But that just gives refeed days all the more glory. One day of sugary, crunchy, milky, starchy bliss.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:14 PM ( #84 )
I want to munch through that box of cereal so bad... it doesn't have HFCS or any really bad stuff in it. Personally, I'm planning a fruit sorbet, but I'm keeping my serving of it in moderation because the frutose will replenish liver glycogen, not something I want if I'm going to be on keto.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:29 PM ( #85 )
I am almost done with my first week of Keto. I must say, holy hell, this diet is not for the weak. Even with all the bacon wrapped everything. I felt so tired this whole week. I am really looking forward to the carb load!

Also quick question for the carb load. Can you eat.... as much as you want?
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Wednesday, July 22, 2009 4:33 PM ( #86 )
Not sure if its unlimited, its still a diet and a "carb-up" day. I did a little searching and HFCS is still not good to have, which is why I'm only making a limited amount of sorbet/icecream.

From what I understand, you fill your muscles to the max, anything more is excess and no good.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Thursday, July 23, 2009 12:00 AM ( #87 )
Geez, you guys make me really consider running this diet. Do you guys have a link that explains comprehensively about the diet?

Also, do you think I can still gain mass while losing fat with keto?

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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Thursday, July 23, 2009 5:37 AM ( #88 )
Thunderblood, what are these meal cards you are talking about?

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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Thursday, July 23, 2009 6:23 AM ( #89 )
Its a note card with what is supposed to be the ideal protein, fat, and carb amounts for keto. I weigh 160# while dehydrated and I need 1900 calories for the day, divided by five meals leaves me with 380 caloires per meal.
I'm slightly slow, mentally, so I gathered up measured foods and their lables, then played with the macro nutrients until I worked out a meal with good protein/carb/fat totals. The card contains the food, amount, calories for each food, total calories, and total macro-nutrients. When its meal time, I can take a card and forget about the macros, because the macros are totaled up on the card.

I keep another card for each meal of the day, marked by total calories, but since yesterday, I have simply been entering everything into the Fitday software and that lets me touch up the ratios at the end of the day, if one happens to be higher than the other. I'm moving away from recording all of my meals on a seperate card to track intake, since I can do it a lot better with Fitday.

Egg - 3 large - 240 calories
Butter - 1Tbs - 100 calories
Chicken 1/4th cup - 50 calories
                               3.0 grams of carbs (from the eggs)
                               28.5 grams of fat
                               29.1 grams of protein
                              ----------------------------
                               390 calories total
Based on 1900 calories / 5 meals / 380 calories per meal.
28 grams protein / 29.7 grams fat / 0 grams carb

^^ thats whats on one card ^^

I only have about three cards so my choices are limited, too lazy to go make more since they take time to get them right. I think starting with a clean protein source, then a clean fat source, and having a third option to touch up the ratios, is a good way to make to start. Ex Chicken + olive oil + almonds. I don't get many calories so that is another limit on my creativity.


140 grams protein and 148.8... grams fat, is the ideal ratio I need for a day, or 28G protein and 29.76G fat per meal.

I hope this diet works, my sex drive is absolutely dead and I doubt that is good...

I gathered the idea from something my dad did when he was into bodybuilding, and that was to put the food / serving / macros, onto a note card, I took it a step further and put the whole meal on the card.
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Re:For those of you on Keto post your diet - Thursday, July 23, 2009 7:02 AM ( #90 )
Interesting.  I do something similar using an excel program I made up, only I estimate everything rather then weighing it out.  I mean eggs, strips of bacon, and anything packaged I know exactly how much I'm getting.  But things like cheese, meats, and things like that I just estimate.

That is a cool way of tracking your meals though.  I like it.
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