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Flax seed - 5/6/2008 4:53:09 PM
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newbuilder
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Is there a major difference between the gel cap form, bottle of oil, or the whole flax seeds in terms of heath and effectiveness?
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RE: Flax seed - 5/6/2008 5:06:56 PM
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David1991
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I've never been a fan of flax seed oil because if you're obese anyway, you don't have the enzymes to elongate the molecule to turn it into the omega-3s. So what's the point of using it?
Another problem is that flax seed oil is usually rancid in most stores, with 40 out of 42 store-bought brands shown to be rancid in one study. And even if you can get it fresh, it goes bad very rapidly once you open it, sometimes in less than two weeks. Plus, I just found that flax oil never really worked.
But flax seeds can be used for the anti-estrogen effects and for adding fiber to your diet. You can buy them whole or pre-milled, but I'd rather grind them myself.
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RE: Flax seed - 5/6/2008 5:08:19 PM
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i dont think many people here are obese lol...
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RE: Flax seed - 5/6/2008 5:10:49 PM
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David1991
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thats only 1 of the points he makes
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RE: Flax seed - 5/6/2008 5:17:15 PM
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mee4414
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Forget about flax seeds and pick yourself up some fish oil its great stuf!
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RE: Flax seed - 5/6/2008 7:56:13 PM
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newbuilder
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So if most are rancid then is fish oil better? its just that ive heard to much about flax seed oil and it's benefits.
(and why did you refer to yourself in the third person?)
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 2:19:14 AM
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David1991
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So if most are rancid then is fish oil better? its just that ive heard to much about flax seed oil and it's benefits.
(and why did you refer to yourself in the third person?)
I'm not Charles poliquin, he's a world renowned fitness coach. Fish oil is good too but it's different. If u go with flax just take the seeds
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 5:50:25 AM
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nspeed22
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If you buy flax seeds whole, and only grind as much as you need at a time, they will not go rancid. You must grind them because they are not digestable in whole form. Buy them whole and grind them as you use them and you're good to go
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 7:09:38 AM
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quote:
ORIGINAL: David1991
from charles poliquin
I've never been a fan of flax seed oil because if you're obese anyway, you don't have the enzymes to elongate the molecule to turn it into the omega-3s. So what's the point of using it?
Another problem is that flax seed oil is usually rancid in most stores, with 40 out of 42 store-bought brands shown to be rancid in one study. And even if you can get it fresh, it goes bad very rapidly once you open it, sometimes in less than two weeks. Plus, I just found that flax oil never really worked.
But flax seeds can be used for the anti-estrogen effects and for adding fiber to your diet. You can buy them whole or pre-milled, but I'd rather grind them myself.
If your obese: nobody here is (that I know of)
In one study: I think you will agree that the findings of one study on ANY topic are not credible. Especially topics that are are studied frequently
Plus, I just found that flax oil never really worked: Thats not really a point at all.
I'm not convinced.
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 10:59:37 AM
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Just like nspeed said, Buy them whole at at a health food store, get a coffee grinder or a spice grinder and grind what you need and throw it in your shakes. Or buy a bottle of caps or oil. If you get oil then you need to refrigerate it. I have never had rancid flax caps, oil or seeds, I think people who say that are full of it. Stores dont sell rancid products, or if they did they wouldnt last long.
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 11:01:57 AM
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David1991
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why grind them? if u put it in a shake or chew it then ur basically "grinding" it anyway
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RE: Flax seed - 5/7/2008 11:30:47 AM
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why grind them? if u put it in a shake or chew it then ur basically "grinding" it anyway
Well If you just throw them in a shake whole, you are basically just assuming that all of the seeds will be ground completley and made bioavailable to your body when you blend your shake, which probably won't happen. Some seeds may not get ground up and will pass through you and you'll be poopin out hard earned money. Grinding them separate ensures that all the seeds get ground and will be used by the body.
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RE: Flax seed - 5/9/2008 8:02:35 AM
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What do you mean by rancid? Like rotten as in any food going rotten? Or bad on some kind of molecular level that we wouldn't notice ??
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RE: Flax seed - 5/9/2008 10:03:50 AM
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nspeed22
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What do you mean by rancid? Like rotten as in any food going rotten? Or bad on some kind of molecular level that we wouldn't notice ??
Similar to how oil can go rancid. The fat will basically oxidize when exposed to heat or light.
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Just eating to maintain health and muscle...no more bulking/cutting.
www.undergroundwellness.com
www.eatwild.com
http://www.paulchek.com/
http://www.westonaprice.org
join the rEVOLution- Vote Ron Paul for Health Freedom
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