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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Thursday, November 24, 2005 1:29 PM
So, PWG what is your current weight and body fat%?
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Friday, November 25, 2005 12:46 PM
i dont know my body fat its too complicated, im tyred today went to the gym for an hour and half then swimming for an hour :p the usual lol, well i weigh 58kg and im 15
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Friday, November 25, 2005 1:58 PM
PWG-
 
Ahh, 15..you are a hormone factory..lucky dog!!!
 
Do you have access to a tape measure?
 
If not, get a string and use it and compare to a long ruler...
 
Give me these circumference (all the way around)measurements (do not indent the skin when measuring):
  1. Upper Arm - around the thickest par tof the biceps/triceps with arm held straight out to the side (perpendicular, that is at 90 degrees) palm down
  2. Abdomen - level of your belly button..
  3. Forearm - with arm held straight out to the side (perpendicular, that is at 90 degrees) palm up

Be sure to tell me the unit of measure you are using!!!
 
Do it when you have the energy.
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:09 PM
im 5 foot 7
arm - 11 inches (bicep not tensed fully)
for arm - 10 inch
abs around belly button 29 inch

:P what do you mean by a hormonal vactory is that a good thing and why :p thanks, add me if you like to msn shaun_j_b@hotmail.com
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, November 26, 2005 12:22 PM
Ha ha
 
...ok that was funny, but I won't share it with you yet cause it was not the right info for someone your age!
 
What is the measurement around your neck 1/2 way between chin and collar bone..that will get me a better number.
 
Sorry about that
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, November 26, 2005 2:34 PM
lol ok, did it say i have alot or something? ill measure it tommorow its late now, what do you mean by a hormonal vactory by the way, and it would be easier to talk if u add me to msn shaun_j_b@hotmail.com or aim - pimpwivgunz cheers
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, November 26, 2005 3:12 PM
I must be super human or something. LOL But i distinctly remember, losing 11 pounds or so in 1.5 months, and did not do any cardio, and did not lose much muscle if any from the looks of it back then. All i did was really watch what i ate, and when i ate it.
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, November 26, 2005 9:41 PM
PWG ...hormone factory...alot of people want muscle growth and fat loss are buying and taking precursers for hormones and you are at a point where you are making tons of it naturally.
 
It is a good thing.  It is a good time for you, for quite a while!
 
I asked for the wrong info from you...so I got the wrong answer.
 
Sorry, I dont do msn messenger...but this is good cause it lets otheres with similar questions follow.
 
Bench270  WHOA...losing 11 pounds in 1.5 months....that is totally possible but I am not so sure it was all fat..I hope you were trying to drop weight!!!  When you keep your protein high and lower fat and carb intake, the body does lose a lot of water too.
 
...I just gained 5 pounds in a little over a week...and though I would love that to all be muscle...some was water and some muscle....and some was probably fat too
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Sunday, November 27, 2005 11:33 AM
ok kewl, so how DO i measure my body fat, becuase im working for a 6 pack for the ladies :p
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Sunday, November 27, 2005 1:25 PM
I can tell you, I just need the measurement around your neck 1/2 way between chin and collar bone..?  No Indenting the skin again.

The links I gave to you before will allow you to determine your BF with just a tape measure.

Oh, and did you say you have calipers or something?  Calipers are more accurate.

If you are training with weights, eating close to your caloric maintenance, and you add cardio...or lower your food intake...you will start to lose that fat and get those abs.

To get down lower and really show them..you either need to train like crazy and eat a bit less or start measuring your BF and caloric intake, and train apropriatley to keep the fat coming off. 
 
I assume you are training your abs!!

And this:
  • Whole healthy foods, no junk.
  • Balanced diet. 
  • 2-3 liters water a day. 
  • Multivitamin to insure you have the nutrition to support optimal losses. 
  • At least 8 hours of restful sleep a night.
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Thursday, December 01, 2005 10:42 AM
yes i do them things as much as i can, but i dont understand what the measurement is u want from me :S
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Thursday, December 01, 2005 11:35 AM
The circumference of your neck at the level of your adams apple.
So, the measurement around the middle of your neck.
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Thursday, December 01, 2005 1:46 PM
ok i dont see how this can be very accurate at all but its:

13 inches
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Thursday, December 01, 2005 2:42 PM
PWG...as far as accuracy...all the methods we can use ourselves at the moment are based upon assumptions, some of which may not be appropriate to us...such assumptions as age, weight...

Let me show you.  I compare many BF testing methods to see how they work with my body.  So here are the test results from the last batch...
16.34% -Tape measure 3 location
14.5% - Tape measure 2 location
9.4% - Skin Fold 3 Location
15.9% - Skin Fold 4 Location (actually an average of multiple tests of: 4 folds-15.1%, 1 fold-13.2%, 2 folds-19.4%)
11.27% - Skin Fold 7 Location
16.6% - Bio-electrical Impedance

So you see, they vary, but are mostly in the ballpark.  I use the 4 Skinfold to track changes in my body because it gives the most available range for change (from 15.9 to 8% has lots of room) so I can measure smaller changes in my physique.

Your body fat tests at 8.99 - 12.5% using the Tape measure 2 location
That means you have 50.5 - 53 kg Lean Body Mass
and 5-7 kg of Body fat

You can do this too using the link I gave above for bodyfat testing...then you can monitor the changes in your muscle and fat as you buff up or cut down.
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RE: Fat Loss Muscle Gain. - Saturday, December 03, 2005 8:18 AM
so what is my body fat %, i stil dont get how this can work becuase the measurments around my body cud be pure muscle and just by a tape measure u cant tell that, also any 1 at all know something good to eat after a work out, and after cardio thanks
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