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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:44 PM
Yes.

You are continously suggesting that cardio is a miraculous fat burning activity.

"Cardio" is simply a method of expending energy (besides being exercise for heart and lungs!).  This energy will be taken from consumed food unless the overall energy consumed falls short of energy requirements.

Both cardio (expenditure of energy) and eating less (consumption of less energy) can force the body into the required catabolic state.

Successful fat loss comes from effective management of energy in and energy out.


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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:48 PM

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Yes.

You are continously suggesting that cardio is a miraculous fat burning activity.

"Cardio" is simply a method of expending energy (besides being exercise for heart and lungs!).  This energy will be taken from consumed food unless the overall energy consumed falls short of energy requirements.

Both cardio (expenditure of energy) and eating less (consumption of less energy) can force the body into the required catabolic state.

Successful fat loss comes from effective management of energy in and energy out.

 
i'm simply suggesting that cardio is necesssary to cut, and any body builder would/should tell you that.
 
ever since i decided to enter a competition this summer, i've been on a treadmill 2-3 hours a day. the guy i train with/nutitionist is going to change my diet. i know about fat loss. i had to cut some good weight off that i got from protein shakes, and i did itfast.
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:51 PM

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bodybuilding.  99 % of bodybuilders incorporate cardio into their workout.  especially while cutting. 


oh really, 99%? i guess i missed that survey

thats not true at all. there are some bodybuilders who dont do any cardio even when cutting, until the very last stages of the cut.
many do none at all when bulking. i've read logs of bodybuilders and i've talked with and heard interviews with bodybuilders.
many have cardio all year long, some dont.

and ur avoiding my question: why do u think cardio is so great that anyone who's serious needs to do it??


do you not read well?  cardio is necessary when cutting during comp season

u said cardio is done by 99% of bodybuilders pretty much all the time. all ur saying is "u need cardio to get ready for a comp". do u even know what your talking about and why ur saying it?
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:53 PM
you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:57 PM
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when is the competition?

and have you noticed a fair amount of decrease in the size of your muscles at all from cutting?

and are you taking any bcaa's before/during/post cardio?
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:57 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio

 
No, you cut by modifying your diet. Some bodybuilder you are.
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 6:59 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio


No, you cut by modifying your diet. Some bodybuilder you are.

 
hahahah okay dude.  i want to see someone  keep muscle mass while changing their diet and not doing any cardio. 
 
 
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:00 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio


so now ur saying just for cutting...
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:03 PM
can you show me where i said bodybuilders do it all the time?
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:03 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio


No, you cut by modifying your diet. Some bodybuilder you are.


hahahah okay dude.  i want to see someone  keep muscle mass while changing their diet and not doing any cardio. 



 
It's called increase protein, lower carbs.
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:05 PM

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giving cardio the big "F U" is stupid.

you must be one of those guys that goes to the gym that isn't serious about muscle gains, a "casual workout" person.

ask any bodybuilder how important cardio is, and they'll tell you it's as important as weight lifting and eating



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but bodybuilders include normal cardio into their routine. 



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  99 % of bodybuilders incorporate cardio into their workout.  especially while cutting. 
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:07 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio


No, you cut by modifying your diet. Some bodybuilder you are.


hahahah okay dude.  i want to see someone  keep muscle mass while changing their diet and not doing any cardio. 





this is totally possible.

like red-jeep said...   elevate the protein intake.  lower the carb ratio. 

it will just take longer than if you were doing cardio.... but it is possible
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:07 PM
while cutting.
 
 
yes
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:08 PM

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while cutting.


yes


?

ok so basically u were proven wrong. i dont know why your still arguing back about it. Cardio isnt necessary, it can just help
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RE: Fat Burn + Muscle Growth - Thursday, May 22, 2008 7:10 PM

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you have to cut before a competition dude. you might know that, you might not. you cut by doing cardio


No, you cut by modifying your diet. Some bodybuilder you are.


hahahah okay dude.  i want to see someone  keep muscle mass while changing their diet and not doing any cardio. 





this is totally possible.

like red-jeep said...   elevate the protein intake.  lower the carb ratio. 

it will just take longer than if you were doing cardio.... but it is possible

 
i guess it would be possible. but my protein shakes had gotten alittle fat on me and i needed to get it off quick
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